Anonymous wrote:Wear a mask. Test yourself. Stop spreading it. That is really what you should be doing.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

No I do not want to shut them all down--but if everyone wore a mask when traveling and when at grocery store/target/church/etc it would help. Majority of kids can wear masks at school---they did it for a year--when illness is so high. We have schools near me with over 30% of the students out sick---that is not normal. I just don't get the All or nothing approach.

People should keep their kids home from school when they are sick and also stay home from work if they are sick. If you know you are sick and must go out, then wear a mask and don't go to restaurants.

That's very reasonable but that message gets lost in all the screeching about how people who don't masks when they are healthy don't understand that people are DYINGm

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.

You're misremembering the past. It's always been common for kids to go to school with colds. That didn't change with the pandemic. If anything, the change is that some people are much more sensitive to seeing kids with cold-like symptoms than they were before the pandemic. Things are starting to go more back to normal.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

No I do not want to shut them all down--but if everyone wore a mask when traveling and when at grocery store/target/church/etc it would help. Majority of kids can wear masks at school---they did it for a year--when illness is so high. We have schools near me with over 30% of the students out sick---that is not normal. I just don't get the All or nothing approach.

People should keep their kids home from school when they are sick and also stay home from work if they are sick. If you know you are sick and must go out, then wear a mask and don't go to restaurants.

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Everyone may know about covid but not everyone has access to accurate info. Most don’t understand airborne viruses and transmission. They obviously did impact you bc you can’t stop posting We are. Ot going to give you a medal to say it’s ok to abandon precautions bc you are sick of it and triggered by a social media post

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Anonymous wrote:Nobody without some weird health phobia even cares about COVID anymore. I’ve had it three times. Early 40s. Started running a week out the last time. Long COVID might be a thing but it’s super narrow and over self diagnosed

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many are hypochondriacs who don’t understand basic math or statistics or what actually supports good health (such as exercising, diet, being outside, social connections, etc)

Many are fat and out of shape. They might drink alcohol regularly or be on prescription medication. This is all much more dangerous to the health of a non-elderly person than Covid. I find it strange.

Actually a lot of previously healthy people now have long Covid, and many people are also disabled from it. I'm not on social media posting about precautions, but it's frustrating when people act like Covid is nothing.

It's interesting- I personally know dozens of people who have had Covid, but I don't know a single person who has long Covid. When I hear people say that long Covid is common, I just don't see it.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

You think they should just leave young kids home alone?

You don't go, you have someone else watch the child, you go in for only needed items like medication or have it delivered. Or, have someone else get it for you.

A lot of people don't have a support network of people waiting to watch their sick kids or do their shopping for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.

You're misremembering the past. It's always been common for kids to go to school with colds. That didn't change with the pandemic. If anything, the change is that some people are much more sensitive to seeing kids with cold-like symptoms than they were before the pandemic. Things are starting to go more back to normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.