Anonymous wrote:Yes.

(Either is fine and I fully support letting the male parent choose if there is one.)

Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a surgeon. In med school when I saw the procedure being done, I vowed I not only never, ever do that to my boys, not participate in it indirectly.

Circumcision is male genital mutilation. It is interesting that we in the US criticize other cultures for female genital mutilation and we do it ourselves to our boys.

The research has not played out to show a benefit to doing this at a population level. If a man engages in high risk sexual behaviors where the procedure might be beneficial, he could get the procedure himself at his own decision. I will support my sons in this regard if needed.

Female mutilation is to keep girls chaste and ensure modesty enforced by the male society. The form of Female mutilation you are comparing to circumcision is cutting off a female's clitoris. This is means she will never have enjoyment sensation out of sex. Circumcision does not affect this for men. NOT a good comparison so stop making it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a surgeon. In med school when I saw the procedure being done, I vowed I not only never, ever do that to my boys, not participate in it indirectly.

Circumcision is male genital mutilation. It is interesting that we in the US criticize other cultures for female genital mutilation and we do it ourselves to our boys.

The research has not played out to show a benefit to doing this at a population level. If a man engages in high risk sexual behaviors where the procedure might be beneficial, he could get the procedure himself at his own decision. I will support my sons in this regard if needed.

Liar. Study after international study shows substantial benefit from being circumcised. The CDC was forced by the religious right to claim there was no benefit while at the same time presenting a lot of evidence that circumcising improves quality of life. Why make your adolescent child have the procedure painfully when it could have been done when he was an infant? (A real surgeon would not have been disgusted by a very minor procedure.)

I thought religious ppl would want the CDC to claim there were benefits??

Yeah, DP, that bolded line made no sense to me either.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a surgeon. In med school when I saw the procedure being done, I vowed I not only never, ever do that to my boys, not participate in it indirectly.

Circumcision is male genital mutilation. It is interesting that we in the US criticize other cultures for female genital mutilation and we do it ourselves to our boys.

The research has not played out to show a benefit to doing this at a population level. If a man engages in high risk sexual behaviors where the procedure might be beneficial, he could get the procedure himself at his own decision. I will support my sons in this regard if needed.

Liar. Study after international study shows substantial benefit from being circumcised. The CDC was forced by the religious right to claim there was no benefit while at the same time presenting a lot of evidence that circumcising improves quality of life. Why make your adolescent child have the procedure painfully when it could have been done when he was an infant? (A real surgeon would not have been disgusted by a very minor procedure.)

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Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

Yeah this is the key point. We're a few generations out from the cultural practice dying out. Rates are dropping rapidly and soon it won't be "normal vs. weird" or "like dad" since half of dads will be uncircumcised in another 20-30 years. At some point it will become enough of a minority that there will be a cultural tipping point and it will shift to "weird" to be circumcised. I have my own opinions but don't have a dog in this fight, except that I have 6 nephews in different parts of the country and none are circumcised. I just hope the strongly opinionated moms here don't turn into mean, judgmental grandma/MILs when their grown kids decide not to circumcise their own kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

Yeah this is the key point. We're a few generations out from the cultural practice dying out. Rates are dropping rapidly and soon it won't be "normal vs. weird" or "like dad" since half of dads will be uncircumcised in another 20-30 years. At some point it will become enough of a minority that there will be a cultural tipping point and it will shift to "weird" to be circumcised. I have my own opinions but don't have a dog in this fight, except that I have 6 nephews in different parts of the country and none are circumcised. I just hope the strongly opinionated moms here don't turn into mean, judgmental grandma/MILs when their grown kids decide not to circumcise their own kids.

Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

Anonymous wrote:I am a surgeon. In med school when I saw the procedure being done, I vowed I not only never, ever do that to my boys, not participate in it indirectly.

Circumcision is male genital mutilation. It is interesting that we in the US criticize other cultures for female genital mutilation and we do it ourselves to our boys.

The research has not played out to show a benefit to doing this at a population level. If a man engages in high risk sexual behaviors where the procedure might be beneficial, he could get the procedure himself at his own decision. I will support my sons in this regard if needed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a surgeon. In med school when I saw the procedure being done, I vowed I not only never, ever do that to my boys, not participate in it indirectly.

Circumcision is male genital mutilation. It is interesting that we in the US criticize other cultures for female genital mutilation and we do it ourselves to our boys.

The research has not played out to show a benefit to doing this at a population level. If a man engages in high risk sexual behaviors where the procedure might be beneficial, he could get the procedure himself at his own decision. I will support my sons in this regard if needed.

Liar. Study after international study shows substantial benefit from being circumcised. The CDC was forced by the religious right to claim there was no benefit while at the same time presenting a lot of evidence that circumcising improves quality of life. Why make your adolescent child have the procedure painfully when it could have been done when he was an infant? (A real surgeon would not have been disgusted by a very minor procedure.)

I thought religious ppl would want the CDC to claim there were benefits??

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Anonymous wrote:Not American and never considered circumcising my boys.

Same. I think that a lot of Americans don't realize how out of the norm this practice is compared with other countries.

Why would this matter to us?

It might help to, you know, step outside of yourself and get out from behind the teeny tiny lens so many Americans see the world through.