Unfortunately Universities just are not interested in rich kids at this time. If they can get a kid that is from a different background they will drop kick a rich kid in a minute.

WTF? What planet are you living on? Top schools are now taking 1/3 to 1/2 the class ED which absolutely benefits rich kids.

The amount of misinformation on this is just ...wow. GPA is not that relevant anymore. For instance. My daughter had a old school teacher that only gave As to two or three kids a semester. And the class after the teacher pretty much give everyone a A. Universities are not unaware of this. Now they give a really good look at class rigor. If your child is taking physics in 11th grade it makes a difference. Coming from a NOVA high school is not a good thing. They take kids from all over the state. A normal kid from NOVA has no chance. But the same grades and course load from Wise County is a easy in. Unfortunately Universities just are not interested in rich kids at this time. If they can get a kid that is from a different background they will drop kick a rich kid in a minute.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why this is happening? Kids get into UVA but not VT all while the acceptance rate for UVA is 21% and VT still claims 45-50%. If those stats are true VT is intentionally dumping higher achievers. Just curious why.

There is more to admissions than stats.

Common data set is published for 22-23:

It will have the 25%/50%/75% breakdown

https://aie.vt.edu/strategic-analysis/common-data-set.html

VA Tech is wonky for in-state, especially NOVA area. Lots of high stats kids get waitlisted while kids with lower stats are accepted. Not sure if they fill up at certain high schools with ED and the high stat kids get left out at EA or its yield protection. Maybe both?

The VT bashing doesn't make any sense. It's a top school. -No dog in this fight

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Anonymous wrote:My son had 1500 SAT and 3.9 GPA and was waitlisted for engineering at VT.

I will assume that's unweighted. Absurd. Is he @ UVA now? OT but it's bizarre how some of the Gov's School students (Maggie Walker, TJ, etc.) we know got waitlisted at Tech in 2022 with amazing stats but they're very happy now at the E-school in Cville.

nonsense 🤣

Anonymous wrote:VT has become incredibly competitive. It received a school record 45,214 first-year applications for fall 2022 admission -- an increase of 7 percent over the previous year's record of 42,084 applicants.

The average high school GPA of the Class of 2026 (this year's freshmen) was 4.19 -- a 0.09 increase from last year’s freshman class.

[Both excerpts from articles easily found online]

Personally, I think the admission rate range anywhere from 56% to 68% found online (depending on the source) seems rather high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 50% now.

Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't represent the entire state - hell it doesn't even represent Fairfax County.

I didn't say it represented the entire state. Dear Lord. I was simply speculating that high stat kids in NOVA were getting turned off to Tech engineering by their recent admission trends focusing on first gen. Simply used recent TJ numbers as an example.

Only the bottom TJ kids are even interested in VaTech. In fact, TJ grads are NOT interested in colleges/universities period including UVA since it has weak CS/Engineering.

The bolded is such utter BS, I don't even know where to begin. But do go on!
- a TJ parent

DP. You are correct. Absolute BS. Go look at all the high stats kids whose parents posted here and in college confidential about results during the last three years. Over and over high stats TJ kids were deferred or waitlisted or rejected. Some of the posts were tear-jerking because their kid wanted engineering and the parents couldn’t afford private or eve OSS engineering - the only great option in the Commonwealth had been closed to them and they had no alternative

Typically, the bottom 20-25% of the TJ grads even bother applying to VT. It is shameful to attend VT as a TJ grad.

Unfortunately true in my day, but this has probably changed.

Anonymous wrote:Stats don’t determine everything for VT.
Apply and see.
Often huge draws from waitlist too.
Not bad to get first year classes done at UMW of JMU where classes are smaller, then transfer.
Expecting if your kid is socially independent and will join clubs.

If someone transfers from solid schools like UMW or JMU, why not transfer to something better like UVA or W&M? Sorry, but VT for anything non Tech seems pretty lateral….

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why this is happening? Kids get into UVA but not VT all while the acceptance rate for UVA is 21% and VT still claims 45-50%. If those stats are true VT is intentionally dumping higher achievers. Just curious why.

VT accepts more than half of applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad VA doesn't have any decent universities. UVA is mediocre at best except for law school/business school and those are graduate/professional schools.

hahahahahaha good one

Anyone know why this is happening? Kids get into UVA but not VT all while the acceptance rate for UVA is 21% and VT still claims 45-50%. If those stats are true VT is intentionally dumping higher achievers. Just curious why.

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Anonymous wrote:Did all these 1500 SAT applicants apply EA? I would guess not. They likely applied ED or RD. In that case, they were using VT as a back up plan. I don’t find anything wrong with reserving spots for students that actually want to go there. If a 1500 SAT student applied EA, they’d be accepted.

I don’t find accepting high star OOS a problem either. They raise the caliber of the school, increase the reputation of the program, and entice more employers to want VT grads. All the whole providing a high caliber engineering experience for Virginia students with a demonstrated interest in attending VT.

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I agree. Though I think the bolded statement was written backwards. Did you mean they likely applied EA or RD? I have no problem with schools showing preference for ED applicants who are clearly saying that school is their 1st choice. It's funny that posters talking about W&M make no bones about the fact that WM shows huge preference for ED applicants - kids who WANT to be there. Why should VT be any different?

The parents who are upset are those who kids used VT as a safety, when it's anything but. They assumed their kids would get in if their Plan A failed, but that's just not the case. And that's not VT's fault - it's the fault of student who didn't apply ED. Which isn't to say ALL ED applicants are admitted, but it certainly helps.

I don't think public Us should be using ED at all and Virginia is really unusual in having so many of its public Us with ED.

ED is generally not good for students, just an anti-competitive benefit for the colleges.

I completely disagree. ED is very good for students who have a clear first choice school. It benefits them AND it benefits the school, since they can get a firm reading on how many will be attending (of those they accept). Why shouldn't schools want kids who want them?

ED is thought to favor applicants who do not have financial need. This is why there was a move a few years ago from a few years ago to remove it (including UVA, which subsequently reinstated it).

Anonymous wrote:Too bad VA doesn't have any decent universities. UVA is mediocre at best except for law school/business school and those are graduate/professional schools.

Yeah, if your kid doesn't attend a T10 school, they might as well not even go to college.