I know this forum is dominated by angry partisans, which means what I will write will only fall on deaf ears.

Pence was reasonably well respected in DC as a negotiator and getting policy done. People got upset with his statement about being alone with an unmarried woman but given the context of our #metoo times perhaps it wasn't so unwise after all. Within the Republicans, and even among many Democrats, Pence was more than competent as someone to work with. As a political candidate, he was picked to help win over the evangelicals, so he had a role to play. And, it should be pointed out, he was among the first to criticize J6 and has distanced himself firmly from Trump. As VPs went, he was solid, reliable, and extremely competent.

Harris, by contrast, has been completely shuffled aside and kept under wraps by the Biden administration. She is a non-entity. She plays no role, she is not listened to, she does not bring support to Biden. Her gaffes are many and foolish. The gap between her and Biden in a hypothetical matchup with Trump is significant. And for very good reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

VP don't do anything. It's a dead end career path.

Just ask Biden! What did that guy ever do after being VP

Except Biden had like 40 years of service in the Senate. Harris has nothing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

He was able to communicate with media without constant word salads. He was informed and understood the current events.
Kamala Harris speaks like she is trying to meet the word count in a thesis paper. It is rare when her responses are coherent and meaningful and demonstrate a command of the issues.
In fact, I cannot think of one time that this was true.

can you point to some examples of VP Pence being that kind of communicator? i don't recall any

Here's just one: https://www.dvidshub.net/video/583268/vice-president-pence-press-conference-jber

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

He was able to communicate with media without constant word salads. He was informed and understood the current events.
Kamala Harris speaks like she is trying to meet the word count in a thesis paper. It is rare when her responses are coherent and meaningful and demonstrate a command of the issues.
In fact, I cannot think of one time that this was true.

can you point to some examples of VP Pence being that kind of communicator? i don't recall any

You know, those cabinet meetings where Pence did a better job of praising Trump than all the other attendees.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

VP don't do anything. It's a dead end career path.

Just ask Biden! What did that guy ever do after being VP

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

He was able to communicate with media without constant word salads. He was informed and understood the current events.
Kamala Harris speaks like she is trying to meet the word count in a thesis paper. It is rare when her responses are coherent and meaningful and demonstrate a command of the issues.
In fact, I cannot think of one time that this was true.

can you point to some examples of VP Pence being that kind of communicator? i don't recall any

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

He was able to communicate with media without constant word salads. He was informed and understood the current events.
Kamala Harris speaks like she is trying to meet the word count in a thesis paper. It is rare when her responses are coherent and meaningful and demonstrate a command of the issues.
In fact, I cannot think of one time that this was true.

When they went head-to-head, these debate experts rated Harris favorably: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/who-won-pence-harris-debate-experts-give-their-verdict-n1242496

It's NBC. Not surprised.
If you believe her speeches and responses during her tenure as VP have been meaningful and articulate, you have not been paying attention.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

He was able to communicate with media without constant word salads. He was informed and understood the current events.
Kamala Harris speaks like she is trying to meet the word count in a thesis paper. It is rare when her responses are coherent and meaningful and demonstrate a command of the issues.
In fact, I cannot think of one time that this was true.

When they went head-to-head, these debate experts rated Harris favorably: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/who-won-pence-harris-debate-experts-give-their-verdict-n1242496

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

VP don't do anything. It's a dead end career path.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

He was able to communicate with media without constant word salads. He was informed and understood the current events.
Kamala Harris speaks like she is trying to meet the word count in a thesis paper. It is rare when her responses are coherent and meaningful and demonstrate a command of the issues.
In fact, I cannot think of one time that this was true.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Tell me something...other than refusing to participate in Trump's coup attempt, what did Mike Pence accomplish in four years as VP? Yet he never got anywhere close to the level of scrutiny that Harris gets now. Why?

Anonymous wrote:Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.

Lol.

Harris looked like an absolute idiot and way in over her head when they tried to trot her out there briefly to talk about China and North Korea. She'd get absolutely owned in the arena of geopolitics by our current enemies in China and Russia. She shouldn't be anywhere near the oval office. She looked like a deer in headlights when trying to talk about tensions rising in the East.

Why is anyone from the Silent Generation still in power anywhere in Washington? Absolute madness.

Biden is fine and Harris would be fine too.

For those of you against Harris, be careful, your racist misogyny is showing.