Anonymous wrote:Oh god not the colored jeans . Here’s items you probably have and wear that are dated. If you like them then wear them, but if you’re trying to be on trend, put these in storage:

Waterfall cardigans
Fitted jean jackets
Skinny jeans and colored jeans
The striped tshirts
The scarves
Dangly jewelry or anything like Kendra Scott

Get some wide leg, straight leg, or flared jeans. A pair of lug sole combat boots goes with anything, some platform white sneakers. Cardigans are cropped and chunky, jewelry is simple gold or silver. Switch to a middle part, I promise it looks fine on you and it will immediately update your style. Get a pair of tailored trousers, I like the ones at Abercrombie.

Buy neutrals. A well fitted tee in gray, black, white, tan. Pairs well with anything. Get some flared leggings for the weekend. Current tends are not as form fitting as the 2010s were, you’re going for a loose, casual fit. Cropped sweatshirts and oversized sweaters vs those prim and fitted ones from 2013.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z fashion isn't for me. I'm riding this wave out and sticking to simple timeless pieces.

This stuff is awful. The crop tops. The mom jeans. It's look terrible on everyone, even the young and fit.

Wake me when it's over.

But it actually doesn't look terrible at all. Here's the thing ... a lot of women INCORRECTLY think they look better in skinny jeans + tunic length top than straight-leg & high-rise jean + crop-length top. Women feel like the former is flowy and covering things like FUPA, etc. up, so it must look better than the latter. But, truly, nope. For most of us, a tunic length top is hitting us at our widest point, and therefore making us look... WIDE. And if you are at all pear shaped, the skinny jeans you think flatter you . . . DON'T.

Just try buying a pair of high-waisted straight-cut denim and pairing it with a "cropped" slim sweater that sits basically just at the top of the waist (so not showing midriff). Even if you have a bit of a FUPA, you will look longer and less wide than in a tunic-length top and skinnies.

Lug sole boots are tricky unless you are quite tall -- good other options are loafers or white sneakers. Bonus: they are comfy!

And then turn sideways in your mirror...yup, fat.

And when you turn sideways in your mirror wearing skinny jeans and a tunic, you look like Bella Hadid?

Gen Z has the right idea about how you don't have to hide every imperfection under a tent.

+2 we older Millennials and older have got to get over this “Omg fat” nonsense. Your body looks like your body no matter what you’re wearing, style-wise.

Okay. As a GenXer, I'm wondering if you remember US diet culture and how hideous it was in the 80s. It's been rebranded in the name of health (intermittent fasting! strong is the new skinny!), but casually blaming women for struggling in this environment is all kinds of lousy.

Thank you. Millennials didn't invent any of this. Bad body image and diet culture existed long before it was imprinted on us.

In fairness it existed before baby boomers too.

And it exists for Gen Z too because all these Gen X and Millennial women are their moms passing down these nonsense ideas of looking fat in anything but skinny jeans and tunics. They’re getting the same message from you, they’re just not molding their entire sense of self worth around it.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z fashion isn't for me. I'm riding this wave out and sticking to simple timeless pieces.

This stuff is awful. The crop tops. The mom jeans. It's look terrible on everyone, even the young and fit.

Wake me when it's over.

But it actually doesn't look terrible at all. Here's the thing ... a lot of women INCORRECTLY think they look better in skinny jeans + tunic length top than straight-leg & high-rise jean + crop-length top. Women feel like the former is flowy and covering things like FUPA, etc. up, so it must look better than the latter. But, truly, nope. For most of us, a tunic length top is hitting us at our widest point, and therefore making us look... WIDE. And if you are at all pear shaped, the skinny jeans you think flatter you . . . DON'T.

Just try buying a pair of high-waisted straight-cut denim and pairing it with a "cropped" slim sweater that sits basically just at the top of the waist (so not showing midriff). Even if you have a bit of a FUPA, you will look longer and less wide than in a tunic-length top and skinnies.

Lug sole boots are tricky unless you are quite tall -- good other options are loafers or white sneakers. Bonus: they are comfy!

This is spot on. I think a big part of the reason millennials (especially the older ones, like me) are still clinging to the "Christian Girl Autumn" tunics-over-skinny jeans look is because we now have mom bods and erroneously feel like the flowy tops camouflage our tummy pooches, but really... you aren't fooling anybody.

I think the whole logic of "THAT was unflattering and ugly....THIS is now flattering an you must swap immediately" is so silly. They're all flattering on some people and less so on others, they've all had their really cute outfits that now look dated but will likely come around again. Its not like we've suddenly gained some magical fashion and optics wisdom that NOW we understand what is flattering and what isn't and we were just so misguided before (the same things were written about skinny jeans when fashion was trying to push us all off bootcut....they always have to convince us out with the old (which is HIDEOUS and makes you look FAT and OLD) and in with the new, to keep making money.

Sort of... but also, fashion looks better on thinner bodies. That's how it's always been, and will always be. The point is, even if you're not stick thin, just wear what you like/want. But PP and others are responding to those who are insisting that trendy fashion just isn't flattering, blah blah.

Not always true! I’m thin and really wanted to wear one of those little house on the prairie dresses last year. I looked like a child. They look so much better on women with curves.

Are uggs dated? Really want to buy a pair for this winter but don’t want to look like a ridiculous almost 40 year in Ugg’s. like matching my 6 year old haha

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z fashion isn't for me. I'm riding this wave out and sticking to simple timeless pieces.

This stuff is awful. The crop tops. The mom jeans. It's look terrible on everyone, even the young and fit.

Wake me when it's over.

But it actually doesn't look terrible at all. Here's the thing ... a lot of women INCORRECTLY think they look better in skinny jeans + tunic length top than straight-leg & high-rise jean + crop-length top. Women feel like the former is flowy and covering things like FUPA, etc. up, so it must look better than the latter. But, truly, nope. For most of us, a tunic length top is hitting us at our widest point, and therefore making us look... WIDE. And if you are at all pear shaped, the skinny jeans you think flatter you . . . DON'T.

Just try buying a pair of high-waisted straight-cut denim and pairing it with a "cropped" slim sweater that sits basically just at the top of the waist (so not showing midriff). Even if you have a bit of a FUPA, you will look longer and less wide than in a tunic-length top and skinnies.

Lug sole boots are tricky unless you are quite tall -- good other options are loafers or white sneakers. Bonus: they are comfy!

This is spot on. I think a big part of the reason millennials (especially the older ones, like me) are still clinging to the "Christian Girl Autumn" tunics-over-skinny jeans look is because we now have mom bods and erroneously feel like the flowy tops camouflage our tummy pooches, but really... you aren't fooling anybody.

I think the whole logic of "THAT was unflattering and ugly....THIS is now flattering an you must swap immediately" is so silly. They're all flattering on some people and less so on others, they've all had their really cute outfits that now look dated but will likely come around again. Its not like we've suddenly gained some magical fashion and optics wisdom that NOW we understand what is flattering and what isn't and we were just so misguided before (the same things were written about skinny jeans when fashion was trying to push us all off bootcut....they always have to convince us out with the old (which is HIDEOUS and makes you look FAT and OLD) and in with the new, to keep making money.

Sort of... but also, fashion looks better on thinner bodies. That's how it's always been, and will always be. The point is, even if you're not stick thin, just wear what you like/want. But PP and others are responding to those who are insisting that trendy fashion just isn't flattering, blah blah.

Not always true! I’m thin and really wanted to wear one of those little house on the prairie dresses last year. I looked like a child. They look so much better on women with curves.

Are uggs dated? Really want to buy a pair for this winter but don’t want to look like a ridiculous almost 40 year in Ugg’s. like matching my 6 year old haha

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z fashion isn't for me. I'm riding this wave out and sticking to simple timeless pieces.

This stuff is awful. The crop tops. The mom jeans. It's look terrible on everyone, even the young and fit.

Wake me when it's over.

But it actually doesn't look terrible at all. Here's the thing ... a lot of women INCORRECTLY think they look better in skinny jeans + tunic length top than straight-leg & high-rise jean + crop-length top. Women feel like the former is flowy and covering things like FUPA, etc. up, so it must look better than the latter. But, truly, nope. For most of us, a tunic length top is hitting us at our widest point, and therefore making us look... WIDE. And if you are at all pear shaped, the skinny jeans you think flatter you . . . DON'T.

Just try buying a pair of high-waisted straight-cut denim and pairing it with a "cropped" slim sweater that sits basically just at the top of the waist (so not showing midriff). Even if you have a bit of a FUPA, you will look longer and less wide than in a tunic-length top and skinnies.

Lug sole boots are tricky unless you are quite tall -- good other options are loafers or white sneakers. Bonus: they are comfy!

This is spot on. I think a big part of the reason millennials (especially the older ones, like me) are still clinging to the "Christian Girl Autumn" tunics-over-skinny jeans look is because we now have mom bods and erroneously feel like the flowy tops camouflage our tummy pooches, but really... you aren't fooling anybody.

I think the whole logic of "THAT was unflattering and ugly....THIS is now flattering an you must swap immediately" is so silly. They're all flattering on some people and less so on others, they've all had their really cute outfits that now look dated but will likely come around again. Its not like we've suddenly gained some magical fashion and optics wisdom that NOW we understand what is flattering and what isn't and we were just so misguided before (the same things were written about skinny jeans when fashion was trying to push us all off bootcut....they always have to convince us out with the old (which is HIDEOUS and makes you look FAT and OLD) and in with the new, to keep making money.

Sort of... but also, fashion looks better on thinner bodies. That's how it's always been, and will always be. The point is, even if you're not stick thin, just wear what you like/want. But PP and others are responding to those who are insisting that trendy fashion just isn't flattering, blah blah.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z fashion isn't for me. I'm riding this wave out and sticking to simple timeless pieces.

This stuff is awful. The crop tops. The mom jeans. It's look terrible on everyone, even the young and fit.

Wake me when it's over.

But it actually doesn't look terrible at all. Here's the thing ... a lot of women INCORRECTLY think they look better in skinny jeans + tunic length top than straight-leg & high-rise jean + crop-length top. Women feel like the former is flowy and covering things like FUPA, etc. up, so it must look better than the latter. But, truly, nope. For most of us, a tunic length top is hitting us at our widest point, and therefore making us look... WIDE. And if you are at all pear shaped, the skinny jeans you think flatter you . . . DON'T.

Just try buying a pair of high-waisted straight-cut denim and pairing it with a "cropped" slim sweater that sits basically just at the top of the waist (so not showing midriff). Even if you have a bit of a FUPA, you will look longer and less wide than in a tunic-length top and skinnies.

Lug sole boots are tricky unless you are quite tall -- good other options are loafers or white sneakers. Bonus: they are comfy!

And then turn sideways in your mirror...yup, fat.

And when you turn sideways in your mirror wearing skinny jeans and a tunic, you look like Bella Hadid?

Gen Z has the right idea about how you don't have to hide every imperfection under a tent.

+2 we older Millennials and older have got to get over this “Omg fat” nonsense. Your body looks like your body no matter what you’re wearing, style-wise.

Okay. As a GenXer, I'm wondering if you remember US diet culture and how hideous it was in the 80s. It's been rebranded in the name of health (intermittent fasting! strong is the new skinny!), but casually blaming women for struggling in this environment is all kinds of lousy.

Thank you. Millennials didn't invent any of this. Bad body image and diet culture existed long before it was imprinted on us.

In fairness it existed before baby boomers too.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z fashion isn't for me. I'm riding this wave out and sticking to simple timeless pieces.

This stuff is awful. The crop tops. The mom jeans. It's look terrible on everyone, even the young and fit.

Wake me when it's over.

But it actually doesn't look terrible at all. Here's the thing ... a lot of women INCORRECTLY think they look better in skinny jeans + tunic length top than straight-leg & high-rise jean + crop-length top. Women feel like the former is flowy and covering things like FUPA, etc. up, so it must look better than the latter. But, truly, nope. For most of us, a tunic length top is hitting us at our widest point, and therefore making us look... WIDE. And if you are at all pear shaped, the skinny jeans you think flatter you . . . DON'T.

Just try buying a pair of high-waisted straight-cut denim and pairing it with a "cropped" slim sweater that sits basically just at the top of the waist (so not showing midriff). Even if you have a bit of a FUPA, you will look longer and less wide than in a tunic-length top and skinnies.

Lug sole boots are tricky unless you are quite tall -- good other options are loafers or white sneakers. Bonus: they are comfy!

And then turn sideways in your mirror...yup, fat.

And when you turn sideways in your mirror wearing skinny jeans and a tunic, you look like Bella Hadid?

Gen Z has the right idea about how you don't have to hide every imperfection under a tent.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z fashion isn't for me. I'm riding this wave out and sticking to simple timeless pieces.

This stuff is awful. The crop tops. The mom jeans. It's look terrible on everyone, even the young and fit.

Wake me when it's over.

But it actually doesn't look terrible at all. Here's the thing ... a lot of women INCORRECTLY think they look better in skinny jeans + tunic length top than straight-leg & high-rise jean + crop-length top. Women feel like the former is flowy and covering things like FUPA, etc. up, so it must look better than the latter. But, truly, nope. For most of us, a tunic length top is hitting us at our widest point, and therefore making us look... WIDE. And if you are at all pear shaped, the skinny jeans you think flatter you . . . DON'T.

Just try buying a pair of high-waisted straight-cut denim and pairing it with a "cropped" slim sweater that sits basically just at the top of the waist (so not showing midriff). Even if you have a bit of a FUPA, you will look longer and less wide than in a tunic-length top and skinnies.

Lug sole boots are tricky unless you are quite tall -- good other options are loafers or white sneakers. Bonus: they are comfy!

And then turn sideways in your mirror...yup, fat.

And when you turn sideways in your mirror wearing skinny jeans and a tunic, you look like Bella Hadid?

Gen Z has the right idea about how you don't have to hide every imperfection under a tent.

+2 we older Millennials and older have got to get over this “Omg fat” nonsense. Your body looks like your body no matter what you’re wearing, style-wise.

Okay. As a GenXer, I'm wondering if you remember US diet culture and how hideous it was in the 80s. It's been rebranded in the name of health (intermittent fasting! strong is the new skinny!), but casually blaming women for struggling in this environment is all kinds of lousy.

Thank you. Millennials didn't invent any of this. Bad body image and diet culture existed long before it was imprinted on us.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I think they mean tall knee high boots over the jeans. That look is very dated now. Knee high chunky or block heeled boots however are in and best work under music skirts or dresses for fall or with mini pleated and plaid skirts.

+1 Tall boots are never going to be "out" - they are still fine with dresses and skirts - it's the pairing of them over skinny jeans or leggings that is passe.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z fashion isn't for me. I'm riding this wave out and sticking to simple timeless pieces.

This stuff is awful. The crop tops. The mom jeans. It's look terrible on everyone, even the young and fit.

Wake me when it's over.

But it actually doesn't look terrible at all. Here's the thing ... a lot of women INCORRECTLY think they look better in skinny jeans + tunic length top than straight-leg & high-rise jean + crop-length top. Women feel like the former is flowy and covering things like FUPA, etc. up, so it must look better than the latter. But, truly, nope. For most of us, a tunic length top is hitting us at our widest point, and therefore making us look... WIDE. And if you are at all pear shaped, the skinny jeans you think flatter you . . . DON'T.

Just try buying a pair of high-waisted straight-cut denim and pairing it with a "cropped" slim sweater that sits basically just at the top of the waist (so not showing midriff). Even if you have a bit of a FUPA, you will look longer and less wide than in a tunic-length top and skinnies.

Lug sole boots are tricky unless you are quite tall -- good other options are loafers or white sneakers. Bonus: they are comfy!

And then turn sideways in your mirror...yup, fat.

And when you turn sideways in your mirror wearing skinny jeans and a tunic, you look like Bella Hadid?

Gen Z has the right idea about how you don't have to hide every imperfection under a tent.

It’s the Gen Z clothes that look like they are wearing tents! At least when we are talking about pants/jeans.

The pants are looser in the legs but they're usually paired with more cropped (not necessarily midriff-baring) and fitted tops, not the tenty "Christian Girl Fall" tunics.

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Anonymous wrote:So what are stylish elder millennials wearing "out" these days? Not clubbing, but say, cocktail bars with girlfriends, shows, or dinner dates with DH?

Ok I'm going to answer this with the preface that I am NOT fully on-board with all of the trends right now. There are some I like and am trying, but some I refuse.

So for these events, I'd wear slim-straight leg jeans or skinny jeans (I'm not getting rid of ALL of my jeans), a heeled bootie (probably one with a higher shaft, those are still "in"), and a top that hits at my waist/can be tucked in. I like the trend of shorter cardigans worn buttoned up as a top. I like a black body suit. Oversized white button downs are very popular (although I don't know how much I'd wear this once we're into winter.) For very casual, I'd wear an oversized flannel "shacket" open over a cropped waist-length tank. All of these could also be paired with leather pants or a skirt for a dressier look.

Here are some links of tops I like/have:

https://www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/p/checkerboard-stitch-notch-neck-sweater-49043820?seq=06&categoryId=6570723&faceout=model

https://www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/p/corset-sweetheart-sweater-bodysuit-49614320?seq=04&categoryId=6570723&faceout=prod

https://www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/p/long-sleeve-asymmetrical-ponte-top-49539819?seq=01&categoryId=6570723&faceout=model

Huh. I thought my Abercrombie days were far behind me, but these are very cute!

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Anonymous wrote:Leather is very "in" right now -- I think a nice "going out" look is a pair of vegan leather straight leg trousers or coated straight leg jean in like a camel or chocolate brown, with a slim fitting black top of some sort, and then a nice boot.

What about leather moto jackets? Out?

I hope not bc I finally bought one 🤣. I also just learned on another thread that the Vejas I have been wearing the last few months are passe. I’m v devastated.

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Anonymous wrote:Leather is very "in" right now -- I think a nice "going out" look is a pair of vegan leather straight leg trousers or coated straight leg jean in like a camel or chocolate brown, with a slim fitting black top of some sort, and then a nice boot.

What about leather moto jackets? Out?