Anonymous wrote:UVA is worth it.

For Engineering, absolutely not for OOS

UVA is worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:If you can get in state tuition at either, go for it. Otherwise Texas for engineering. UVA for poli sci / government.

Pretty much this.

Well, no. Since UVA costs 20k more oos.

Yeah I'm not spending OOS Tuition for poli sci/government at UVA. UT OOS for Engineering though.

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Anonymous wrote:If you can get in state tuition at either, go for it. Otherwise Texas for engineering. UVA for poli sci / government.

Pretty much this.

Well, no. Since UVA costs 20k more oos.

Anonymous wrote:If you can get in state tuition at either, go for it. Otherwise Texas for engineering. UVA for poli sci / government.

Pretty much this.

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Anonymous wrote:UTAustin has only 29 Rhodes; UVA has produced 55

And you aren’t Rhodes.

UVA now has 56 Rhodes scholars

OMG. He's back.

If you can get in state tuition at either, go for it. Otherwise Texas for engineering. UVA for poli sci / government.

UT for STEM

UT for Med, Law also, as UVA is too competitive and GPA is more important for Grad school.

Plus the Taco's in Austin and the weather.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to one, and my spouse went to the other. Based on our experiences, I would say UVA felt more exclusive (smaller student body, lower acceptance rate) and UT was more like any other state school. I say this because both schools have a large percentage of students from in state, and VA, especially NoVA, is a lot more focused on education and academics than Texas as a state.

The flip side is, UVA is much more homogenous than UT. It's harder to find your people if you're not white, conventionally attractive, and from an UMC background.

If OP is from VA, I would absolutely go with UVA. UT is pretty aggressively Texas, which can be jarring for out-of-staters.

I graduated from UT-McCombs business school. UT is NOT "aggressively Texas." I doubt the validity of your claim of having attended. UT is the last liberal bastion in Texas. I'm more conservative but didn't mind the left-leaning population. I try to be open-minded. Your post is rubbish. Both are quality institutions. Your experience at UT will be similar to those of other high-caliber schools on the East Coast. The size of the school does have its drawbacks though. Choose the school where you think you will perform best.

it took you 3 years to come back with that and bump this old thread? hmmm

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Anonymous wrote:UTAustin has only 29 Rhodes; UVA has produced 55

And you aren’t Rhodes.

UVA now has 56 Rhodes scholars

Anonymous wrote:I went to one, and my spouse went to the other. Based on our experiences, I would say UVA felt more exclusive (smaller student body, lower acceptance rate) and UT was more like any other state school. I say this because both schools have a large percentage of students from in state, and VA, especially NoVA, is a lot more focused on education and academics than Texas as a state.

The flip side is, UVA is much more homogenous than UT. It's harder to find your people if you're not white, conventionally attractive, and from an UMC background.

If OP is from VA, I would absolutely go with UVA. UT is pretty aggressively Texas, which can be jarring for out-of-staters.

I graduated from UT-McCombs business school. UT is NOT "aggressively Texas." I doubt the validity of your claim of having attended. UT is the last liberal bastion in Texas. I'm more conservative but didn't mind the left-leaning population. I try to be open-minded. Your post is rubbish. Both are quality institutions. Your experience at UT will be similar to those of other high-caliber schools on the East Coast. The size of the school does have its drawbacks though. Choose the school where you think you will perform best.

Neither one of these schools gets particularly strong budget support from the state, so the endowments, insofar as they are actually benefitting undergraduates, are largely trying to make up for that.

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Anonymous wrote:Texas bounty hunter women state yeah great idea to entertain.

Abbott is 100% going to win again and so is Paxton sending a male or female to Texas now is just beyond bad parentling.

The state leadership's stance on any number of issues will make it hard for their universities to recruit or even retain great personnel. UT's future looks grim.

Have you seen any announcements of Profs leaving UT in protest? Me, neither.

UVA’s endowment is $14.5 billion. UT’s endowment is $42.9 billion and is expected to exceed Harvard’s $53 billion this year (the Texas Permanent University Fund includes a chunk of oil royalties, so higher oil prices that depress the rest of the economy is in its favor).

They can buy anything they want. Under their STARS program, UT is building state of the art lab facilities for the purpose of attracting talent. As an example, UT built one of the best structural biology labs in the world and recruited an entire lab from Dartmouth, who then were instrumental in developing the Covid vaccine. The lab has been updated since. The “great personnel” will follow the money.

https://cns.utexas.edu/news/covid-19-vaccine-with-ut-ties-arrived-quickly-after-years-in-the-making

https://cns.utexas.edu/news/as-cryo-em-capabilities-expand-cool-science-at-ut-gets-a-boost

You are comparing apples to oranges. That figure, sometimes also given as $39B is system wide for all of the UT schools. THe UVA figure you give is for UVA alone - and UVA is almost 100% self-supporting now, which UT Austin is now. 2. University of Texas—$31.9 Billion


The University of Texas system had roughly $31.90 billion in endowment assets at the end of the 2020 financial year, an increase of 3.2% from the year before.

The University of Texas/Texas A&M Investment Company oversees the system's four major endowment funds, which are the:

Permanent University Fund
Permanent Health Fund
Long Term Fund
Separately Invested Fund

The Permanent University Fund supports the University of Texas, Texas A&M, and their smaller schools.

The Permanent Health Fund contributes revenue to medical research, health education, public health, nursing, and treatment programs.

Your numbers are old. The UT endowment is getting $6 million *a day* from oil revenues and is expected to top $50 billion this year, at a time when other endowments’ investments are shrinking. Two-thirds of the PUF goes to the UT system (one third to A&M).

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-harvard-university-of-texas-richest-college-oil-endowments/?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Land operated by the University of Texas System is on track to post its best-ever annual revenue in fiscal 2022 because of soaring oil prices and production on its property in the Permian Basin. Oil reached a high of $120 a barrel earlier this year as a result of a war-induced energy crunch. The revenue is expected to help narrow the gap between the Texas system’s $42.9 billion endowment and Harvard’s $53.2 billion as of June 2021.

“The University of Texas has a cash windfall when everyone is looking at a potential cash crunch,” said William Goetzmann, a professor of finance and management studies at Yale University’s School of Management. “Adjusting your portfolio for social concerns is not costless.”

The oil and gas revenue will help insulate the University of Texas System from all that. It’ll stem concerns about liquidity and help investment managers hunting deals in a down market. It also represents hard cash, instead of gains tied up in investments like private equity and venture capital, which is more typical for the richest college endowments and drove record returns in the prior year. Meanwhile, even if the Texas system shows negative investment returns, the revenue could help protect the endowment value.

Anonymous wrote:UTAustin has only 29 Rhodes; UVA has produced 55

And you aren’t Rhodes.

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Anonymous wrote:Texas bounty hunter women state yeah great idea to entertain.

Abbott is 100% going to win again and so is Paxton sending a male or female to Texas now is just beyond bad parentling.

The state leadership's stance on any number of issues will make it hard for their universities to recruit or even retain great personnel. UT's future looks grim.

Have you seen any announcements of Profs leaving UT in protest? Me, neither.

UVA’s endowment is $14.5 billion. UT’s endowment is $42.9 billion and is expected to exceed Harvard’s $53 billion this year (the Texas Permanent University Fund includes a chunk of oil royalties, so higher oil prices that depress the rest of the economy is in its favor).

They can buy anything they want. Under their STARS program, UT is building state of the art lab facilities for the purpose of attracting talent. As an example, UT built one of the best structural biology labs in the world and recruited an entire lab from Dartmouth, who then were instrumental in developing the Covid vaccine. The lab has been updated since. The “great personnel” will follow the money.

https://cns.utexas.edu/news/covid-19-vaccine-with-ut-ties-arrived-quickly-after-years-in-the-making

https://cns.utexas.edu/news/as-cryo-em-capabilities-expand-cool-science-at-ut-gets-a-boost

You are comparing apples to oranges. That figure, sometimes also given as $39B is system wide for all of the UT schools. THe UVA figure you give is for UVA alone - and UVA is almost 100% self-supporting now, which UT Austin is now. 2. University of Texas—$31.9 Billion


The University of Texas system had roughly $31.90 billion in endowment assets at the end of the 2020 financial year, an increase of 3.2% from the year before.

The University of Texas/Texas A&M Investment Company oversees the system's four major endowment funds, which are the:

Permanent University Fund
Permanent Health Fund
Long Term Fund
Separately Invested Fund

The Permanent University Fund supports the University of Texas, Texas A&M, and their smaller schools.

The Permanent Health Fund contributes revenue to medical research, health education, public health, nursing, and treatment programs.

They should give the $200M a year plus capital appropriations back to the state, then. Somehow I don't think they will.