Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 14:22     Subject: Re:Why are Rich Men always sought after?
But many of those wealthy stay at home moms are pedigreed. They just quit their jobs after having kids. It’s not like wealthy men are marrying uneducated women.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 14:05     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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Education isn’t important to everyone, and that’s fine. But you can’t marry someone who thinks that education and school aren’t important and then expect them to teach your kids to study hard and agree to spend tens of thousands on their college education.



My mom never even started college but somehow she (with the financial backing of my father but not much other help from him) managed to raise 3 kids with professional degrees from good schools. We had tutors and a mom who was available to us 24/7. While none of us chose to be SAHMs because we've found fulfilment in our careers, nothing bugs me more than when people look down on her because she made different life choices.


Do any of you make the money that your dad made while you were growing up?


Not yet, but one sibling likely will, another likely won't but still has a nice life (engineer), and I likely won't as an individual but HHI is already similar.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 13:53     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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Anonymous wrote:A legally binding prenup requires the wife to be represented by counsel, who will tell her not to sign anything stupid like giving up all alimony.

I’m a big fan of pre-nups (think almost everyone should have them) but you don’t seem to understand the basics of a pre-nup.


I have one and am very familiar. I know all about both parties needing to disclose assets and have counsel for it to be legally enforceable.


So then you know competent counsel doesn’t let their clients waive alimony unless there are offsets. There’s no prenup of “completely impoverish her as soon as you’re done screwing her” that a court won’t throw out.


Attorney’s will advise. In Maryland an alimony waiver will be enforced unless the spouse is likely to be a public charge. Please look up the case law on Google Scholar.


What’s the point of marring a rich guy with a prenup you describe ? She will be better off on herself . A smart young woman won’t sign it and will move on ; the guy will be left with his pick of not very smart baristas


Why all the sneering at baristas?


I think that barista is code for “woman who is attractive, but not well educated or ambitious.”
I think she is a barista because she is based on Rachel from the first season of Friends.



Ok, why the sneering at women who are not well educated?


I don’t really see a lot of sneering.

Education isn’t important to everyone, and that’s fine. But you can’t marry someone who thinks that education and school aren’t important and then expect them to teach your kids to study hard and agree to spend tens of thousands on their college education.



Wow, that’s not pompous at all. Folks, your kids will learn to study hard only if their mom has multiple degrees. Because other women must think that education isn’t important.


You think it’s pompous because you think higher education is important and that anyone who doesn’t is somehow lesser than yourself. But this is true with anything.

If you think that camping and learning outdoor survival skills are important, then you need to plan to either teach your kids those things yourself or marry someone who also thinks those things are important.

If you think that spending time with extended family is important, then you should marry someone who is close with their extended family or plan to spend a lot of time with your own extended family.

Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 13:47     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
Anonymous wrote:
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Education isn’t important to everyone, and that’s fine. But you can’t marry someone who thinks that education and school aren’t important and then expect them to teach your kids to study hard and agree to spend tens of thousands on their college education.



My mom never even started college but somehow she (with the financial backing of my father but not much other help from him) managed to raise 3 kids with professional degrees from good schools. We had tutors and a mom who was available to us 24/7. While none of us chose to be SAHMs because we've found fulfilment in our careers, nothing bugs me more than when people look down on her because she made different life choices.


Do any of you make the money that your dad made while you were growing up?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 13:41     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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Anonymous wrote:A legally binding prenup requires the wife to be represented by counsel, who will tell her not to sign anything stupid like giving up all alimony.

I’m a big fan of pre-nups (think almost everyone should have them) but you don’t seem to understand the basics of a pre-nup.


I have one and am very familiar. I know all about both parties needing to disclose assets and have counsel for it to be legally enforceable.


So then you know competent counsel doesn’t let their clients waive alimony unless there are offsets. There’s no prenup of “completely impoverish her as soon as you’re done screwing her” that a court won’t throw out.


Attorney’s will advise. In Maryland an alimony waiver will be enforced unless the spouse is likely to be a public charge. Please look up the case law on Google Scholar.


What’s the point of marring a rich guy with a prenup you describe ? She will be better off on herself . A smart young woman won’t sign it and will move on ; the guy will be left with his pick of not very smart baristas


Why all the sneering at baristas?


I think that barista is code for “woman who is attractive, but not well educated or ambitious.”
I think she is a barista because she is based on Rachel from the first season of Friends.



Ok, why the sneering at women who are not well educated?


I don’t really see a lot of sneering.

Education isn’t important to everyone, and that’s fine. But you can’t marry someone who thinks that education and school aren’t important and then expect them to teach your kids to study hard and agree to spend tens of thousands on their college education.



Wow, that’s not pompous at all. Folks, your kids will learn to study hard only if their mom has multiple degrees. Because other women must think that education isn’t important.


Yes. Well, if you marry someone who doesn’t think that education is important and then plan to leave all of the child rearing to them while you work, than, yeah, your kids aren’t going to learn to study hard. Marrying someone without and education or career ambitions doesn’t give you a free pass on all domestic labor. Sorry if you find that pompous, dude.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 13:27     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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Education isn’t important to everyone, and that’s fine. But you can’t marry someone who thinks that education and school aren’t important and then expect them to teach your kids to study hard and agree to spend tens of thousands on their college education.



My mom never even started college but somehow she (with the financial backing of my father but not much other help from him) managed to raise 3 kids with professional degrees from good schools. We had tutors and a mom who was available to us 24/7. While none of us chose to be SAHMs because we've found fulfilment in our careers, nothing bugs me more than when people look down on her because she made different life choices.


There are many women and men that don't think education is important. Just turn on the news. Some of them have degrees and think it was a waste of time and others don't and still think it's a waste of time. Your mom is one person and men don't have as good a track record in this area with kids. Just looking at the college pictures of kids showing up to college without a desk in their room and pets and huge makeup areas tells me that college is not just for higher education anymore.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 12:56     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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Education isn’t important to everyone, and that’s fine. But you can’t marry someone who thinks that education and school aren’t important and then expect them to teach your kids to study hard and agree to spend tens of thousands on their college education.



My mom never even started college but somehow she (with the financial backing of my father but not much other help from him) managed to raise 3 kids with professional degrees from good schools. We had tutors and a mom who was available to us 24/7. While none of us chose to be SAHMs because we've found fulfilment in our careers, nothing bugs me more than when people look down on her because she made different life choices.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 12:43     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
Doctors and engineers don’t make a lot of money. Even most law partners don’t. UMC money.

When you’re talking about wealthy men being able to throw their money around and attract the kind of beautiful and accomplished women who would normally be out of reach to them, we’re talking about tens of millions. They’re all business owners of some sort.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 12:35     Subject: Re:Why are Rich Men always sought after?
Anonymous wrote:In the wealthy country club world that I’m in—most of the wives do not work, or marginally work( most of the money is made by the man). The women are educated but by and large stopped working after having kids. When there is a divorce the men get crushed financially. The financial hit they take in a divorce is no different then if they had married a 20 year old uneducated barista.


Same. Wife walks with half their assets - millions of dollars - plus hefty child support and alimony for some years. It’s def an incentive not to stray. I’ve heard them say as much, joking and serious.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 12:33     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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Anonymous wrote:A legally binding prenup requires the wife to be represented by counsel, who will tell her not to sign anything stupid like giving up all alimony.

I’m a big fan of pre-nups (think almost everyone should have them) but you don’t seem to understand the basics of a pre-nup.


I have one and am very familiar. I know all about both parties needing to disclose assets and have counsel for it to be legally enforceable.


So then you know competent counsel doesn’t let their clients waive alimony unless there are offsets. There’s no prenup of “completely impoverish her as soon as you’re done screwing her” that a court won’t throw out.


Attorney’s will advise. In Maryland an alimony waiver will be enforced unless the spouse is likely to be a public charge. Please look up the case law on Google Scholar.


What’s the point of marring a rich guy with a prenup you describe ? She will be better off on herself . A smart young woman won’t sign it and will move on ; the guy will be left with his pick of not very smart baristas


Why all the sneering at baristas?


I think that barista is code for “woman who is attractive, but not well educated or ambitious.”
I think she is a barista because she is based on Rachel from the first season of Friends.



Ok, why the sneering at women who are not well educated?


I don’t really see a lot of sneering.

Education isn’t important to everyone, and that’s fine. But you can’t marry someone who thinks that education and school aren’t important and then expect them to teach your kids to study hard and agree to spend tens of thousands on their college education.



Wow, that’s not pompous at all. Folks, your kids will learn to study hard only if their mom has multiple degrees. Because other women must think that education isn’t important.


"In most studies, parental education has been identified as the single strongest correlate of children’s success in school, the number of years they attend school, and their success later in life."

https://www.educationnext.org/how-family-background-influences-student-achievement/
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 11:14     Subject: Re:Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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I don’t know why men get blamed for woman not working. I know plenty of woman that don’t work and have no desire to work. My guess is that if they don’t need to most people would prefer not to work.
Outside of a very small group of people, once your dead no one is going to care that you were VP, CEO, Senior Partner at ABC & D.

I was at lunch the other day and the woman sitting next to me was telling her friend that now her last kid was going off to college her husband wanted her to get a job. Her response was, “I have an outdated degree and I am not starting a career at nearly 48 if I don’t need to and I am not going to get an hourly position at pottery barn.” I can’t say I really disagree with her.


Wow. I gotta say, I would be pretty ticked off if I were the husband. Basically wife is saying, "I did my job of raising kids so now I get to "retire" but you get to keep working so as to support us in the lifestyle to which I am now accustomed."


Again if they have the money is there anything wrong with that ?


Why can’t he retire? There is nothing wrong with him saying he is done either. I bet she’s the one who wants the nice income, not him.

I have no problem with her saying she is done working if he gets to say the same. But the women who are “done” somehow never mean that.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 11:07     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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Anonymous wrote:A legally binding prenup requires the wife to be represented by counsel, who will tell her not to sign anything stupid like giving up all alimony.

I’m a big fan of pre-nups (think almost everyone should have them) but you don’t seem to understand the basics of a pre-nup.


I have one and am very familiar. I know all about both parties needing to disclose assets and have counsel for it to be legally enforceable.


So then you know competent counsel doesn’t let their clients waive alimony unless there are offsets. There’s no prenup of “completely impoverish her as soon as you’re done screwing her” that a court won’t throw out.


Attorney’s will advise. In Maryland an alimony waiver will be enforced unless the spouse is likely to be a public charge. Please look up the case law on Google Scholar.


What’s the point of marring a rich guy with a prenup you describe ? She will be better off on herself . A smart young woman won’t sign it and will move on ; the guy will be left with his pick of not very smart baristas


Why all the sneering at baristas?


I think that barista is code for “woman who is attractive, but not well educated or ambitious.”
I think she is a barista because she is based on Rachel from the first season of Friends.



Ok, why the sneering at women who are not well educated?


I don’t really see a lot of sneering.

Education isn’t important to everyone, and that’s fine. But you can’t marry someone who thinks that education and school aren’t important and then expect them to teach your kids to study hard and agree to spend tens of thousands on their college education.



Wow, that’s not pompous at all. Folks, your kids will learn to study hard only if their mom has multiple degrees. Because other women must think that education isn’t important.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 11:01     Subject: Re:Why are Rich Men always sought after?
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I don’t know why men get blamed for woman not working. I know plenty of woman that don’t work and have no desire to work. My guess is that if they don’t need to most people would prefer not to work.
Outside of a very small group of people, once your dead no one is going to care that you were VP, CEO, Senior Partner at ABC & D.

I was at lunch the other day and the woman sitting next to me was telling her friend that now her last kid was going off to college her husband wanted her to get a job. Her response was, “I have an outdated degree and I am not starting a career at nearly 48 if I don’t need to and I am not going to get an hourly position at pottery barn.” I can’t say I really disagree with her.


Wow. I gotta say, I would be pretty ticked off if I were the husband. Basically wife is saying, "I did my job of raising kids so now I get to "retire" but you get to keep working so as to support us in the lifestyle to which I am now accustomed."


Again if they have the money is there anything wrong with that ?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 10:58     Subject: Re:Why are Rich Men always sought after?



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I don’t know why men get blamed for woman not working. I know plenty of woman that don’t work and have no desire to work. My guess is that if they don’t need to most people would prefer not to work.
Outside of a very small group of people, once your dead no one is going to care that you were VP, CEO, Senior Partner at ABC & D.

I was at lunch the other day and the woman sitting next to me was telling her friend that now her last kid was going off to college her husband wanted her to get a job. Her response was, “I have an outdated degree and I am not starting a career at nearly 48 if I don’t need to and I am not going to get an hourly position at pottery barn.” I can’t say I really disagree with her.


Wow. I gotta say, I would be pretty ticked off if I were the husband. Basically wife is saying, "I did my job of raising kids so now I get to "retire" but you get to keep working so as to support us in the lifestyle to which I am now accustomed."
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2022 10:18     Subject: Why are Rich Men always sought after?
Anonymous wrote:It seems like every rich guy willing to throw money around has a flock of beautiful women after him( regardless of his looks or age). Is this just a function of DC being a high cost of living area, or is it the case everywhere?


Maybe that’s all that’s there- the money.
No real connection or emotional or interests or hobbies or love or even ability to love. All that’s there is the money.