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Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

OMG, these people posting here have seriously never read a textbook. Try “History of the United States, Volume I”.

That's not a cite, honey.

Try googling it. It’s a fact

https://historyofyesterday.com/how-new-york-city-tried-to-secede-from-the-union-cf0327530aa8

You guys are sooooo stuuuuppid.

After arguing about how the civil war was not about slavery, you bring up am example of how the racist interests of NYC proposed to secede from the union over the cause of slavery. Which is it?

The mayor of New York made a proposal that was not acted upon by the people of New York. Who cares and what do you think that proves? Are you guys unaware that many southern men joined the union army and fought their own brothers because not all southerners were racist rebel trash?

And are you also aware that many Northerners owned slaves? And…are you aware that Free Blacks also owned slaves *gasp*??

Your own source proves that the war was about slavery. What do you have to say about that?

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Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

OMG, these people posting here have seriously never read a textbook. Try “History of the United States, Volume I”.

That's not a cite, honey.

Try googling it. It’s a fact

https://historyofyesterday.com/how-new-york-city-tried-to-secede-from-the-union-cf0327530aa8

You guys are sooooo stuuuuppid.

After arguing about how the civil war was not about slavery, you bring up am example of how the racist interests of NYC proposed to secede from the union over the cause of slavery. Which is it?

The mayor of New York made a proposal that was not acted upon by the people of New York. Who cares and what do you think that proves? Are you guys unaware that many southern men joined the union army and fought their own brothers because not all southerners were racist rebel trash?

And are you also aware that many Northerners owned slaves? And…are you aware that Free Blacks also owned slaves *gasp*??

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Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

OMG, these people posting here have seriously never read a textbook. Try “History of the United States, Volume I”.

That's not a cite, honey.

Try googling it. It’s a fact

https://historyofyesterday.com/how-new-york-city-tried-to-secede-from-the-union-cf0327530aa8

You guys are sooooo stuuuuppid.

After arguing about how the civil war was not about slavery, you bring up am example of how the racist interests of NYC proposed to secede from the union over the cause of slavery. Which is it?

The mayor of New York made a proposal that was not acted upon by the people of New York. Who cares and what do you think that proves? Are you guys unaware that many southern men joined the union army and fought their own brothers because not all southerners were racist rebel trash?

And are you also aware that many Northerners owned slaves? And…are you aware that Free Blacks also owned slaves *gasp*??

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Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

OMG, these people posting here have seriously never read a textbook. Try “History of the United States, Volume I”.

That's not a cite, honey.

Try googling it. It’s a fact

https://historyofyesterday.com/how-new-york-city-tried-to-secede-from-the-union-cf0327530aa8

You guys are sooooo stuuuuppid.

After arguing about how the civil war was not about slavery, you bring up am example of how the racist interests of NYC proposed to secede from the union over the cause of slavery. Which is it?

The mayor of New York made a proposal that was not acted upon by the people of New York. Who cares and what do you think that proves? Are you guys unaware that many southern men joined the union army and fought their own brothers because not all southerners were racist rebel trash?

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Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

OMG, these people posting here have seriously never read a textbook. Try “History of the United States, Volume I”.

That's not a cite, honey.

Try googling it. It’s a fact

https://historyofyesterday.com/how-new-york-city-tried-to-secede-from-the-union-cf0327530aa8

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

OMG, these people posting here have seriously never read a textbook. Try “History of the United States, Volume I”.

That's not a cite, honey.

Try googling it. It’s a fact

https://historyofyesterday.com/how-new-york-city-tried-to-secede-from-the-union-cf0327530aa8

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

OMG, these people posting here have seriously never read a textbook. Try “History of the United States, Volume I”.

That's not a cite, honey.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems are the party of “America is fundamentally racist and terrible let’s dismantle”

Republicans are the “America is awesome” party.

People feel it subconsciously and associate the flag and loving AMERICA with republicans https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/seeing-an-american-flag-can-shift-voters-towards-republicanism

Hahaha. That article is from 2011. Pre Trump, pre sh*tting all over the Capitol, pre traitorous riot. Now they are associated with the confederate and Trump and thin blue line flags they foisted on January 6th.

Actually Democrats are ten times as loud with “America sucks!” these days.

Unfortunately.

Or fortunately, since honesty is good.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

When our southern flag flew over Okinawa


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/okinawa-confederate-flag/

Little known fact - first place to follow South Carolina in secession planning was New York City.

New Yorkers got cold feet when it turned violent at ft Sumter.

Cite?

OMG, these people posting here have seriously never read a textbook. Try “History of the United States, Volume I”.

That's not a cite, honey.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The stars and bars has been carried by our men in uniform into every major conflict since the civil war, particularly by service members from the south.

I fly it proudly.

I challenge you to read this. These are the actual documents of a number of Southern states setting forth their reasons for secession. Go to the source. Not some fiction you learned in your history classes in high school. Read the actual documents. Then come back and tell me you are proud of what that flag stands for. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Gotta love this quote from Mississippi’s secession declaration:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

Whatcha got to say to that, Johnny Reb?

Our beautiful southern flag honors our valor on the field, courtly virtues and independence. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with slavery, which was a horrific institution for which it seems we all keep paying the price.

The Confederate flag was LITERALLY the flag of the Confederate Army, which was fighting a war of secession against the United States so that they could keep the institution of slavery. The "independence" you refer to is the "independence" to keep owning slaves. And as far as "courtly values" go, you've obviously watched Gone With the Wind too many times and think it is fact not fiction. The Confederate flag is inextricably linked to the fight to maintain slavery, and any attempts to decouple the two take a certain kind of delusional mindset that normal people can't even wrap their minds around.

But the U.S. was founded by racist slave owning white western cis hetero males and there is no getting away from that.

Read some Nikole Hannah Jones and Ta-Nehesi Coates.

Read Slavery by Another Name and stop pretending the southern whites were sooooooo much worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems are the party of “America is fundamentally racist and terrible let’s dismantle”

Republicans are the “America is awesome” party.

People feel it subconsciously and associate the flag and loving AMERICA with republicans https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/seeing-an-american-flag-can-shift-voters-towards-republicanism

Hahaha. That article is from 2011. Pre Trump, pre sh*tting all over the Capitol, pre traitorous riot. Now they are associated with the confederate and Trump and thin blue line flags they foisted on January 6th.

Anonymous wrote:The American flag represents locality and support to the current President. Always has and always will. The flags are supporting President Biden and the country. To think otherwise is truly misguided and, frankly, stupid.