Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 14:12     Subject: Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
We're having a crime emergency and we need to get more officers on the ground quickly. What about bringing in officers from other parts of the country the way we do with power crews when there is a major outage. I'm sure some jurisdictions have officers they could spare for a few months. We could pay a premium to attract them.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 12:02     Subject: Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Politicians have shown a remarkable ability to change their positions on a dime when threatened with losing office. If we send a message in the 2024 elections, others on the Council will learn the lesson.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 08:21     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:For all the people who are frantic about the DC area. Crime has risen everywhere including in conservative states.

You cannot outrun the wave of crime that is happening from the pandemic, services and other businesses, employment, schools and all such were affected.

While it's unfortunate that carjackings have risen, this is likely making up for the time there were not any during the pandemic. I have faith things will eventually course correct.

Things were closed for 2 years, and some places 2.5 years.





Actually this is false. Nationwide, recently crime has fallen back to pre pandemic levels. DC is a MASSIVE outlier. Stop making excuses, and stop lying, we are f**king sick of the crime
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 07:17     Subject: Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. Sadly I don’t see the pendulum swinging back. We need a cultural reset. ATVs, dirt bikes and loud cars speeding through intersections at 100 mph with no regard for their fellow humans. 14 yr old car jackers. A mom and child shot by a madman who was going to run them over on a sidewalk. Open air drugging and gambling. It’s Gotham city. I’d like to move, if only I could afford to.


I've lived in the city over 30 years and it was worse 30 years ago. By all accounts the 80's were even worse, and the 70's worse than that. The 60's? Forget about it, they burned the city down. The 50's were pure chaos. During WWII it was anything goes. The Great Depression and the Bonus Army March? Nothing was safe.


What is the common theme through the decades?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2023 22:50     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all the people who are frantic about the DC area. Crime has risen everywhere including in conservative states.

You cannot outrun the wave of crime that is happening from the pandemic, services and other businesses, employment, schools and all such were affected.

While it's unfortunate that carjackings have risen, this is likely making up for the time there were not any during the pandemic. I have faith things will eventually course correct.

Things were closed for 2 years, and some places 2.5 years.



It was mostly an overreaction after the death of George Floyd. Reforming and retraining police departments morphed into going easy on urban criminals in the name of “equity.” Crime spiked although it recently has been going down nationally. DC is the exception, and the brazenness and spread of crime to formerly safe neighborhoods suggest that local criminals believe that they will not be caught or held accountable. DC needs an urgent course correction.


This is a worthwhile summary.

It actually began earlier, with the myth of “hands up, don’t shoot!” (And even the Wapo publicly debunked the myth).

And the ideas were put on steroids with the injection of $18 billion dollars (yes billion) for the Open Society Foundations to spend on campaigns and lobbying for pro-crime bills after 2018.

But yes, it’s not difficult to see how we got here.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2023 13:35     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:For all the people who are frantic about the DC area. Crime has risen everywhere including in conservative states.

You cannot outrun the wave of crime that is happening from the pandemic, services and other businesses, employment, schools and all such were affected.

While it's unfortunate that carjackings have risen, this is likely making up for the time there were not any during the pandemic. I have faith things will eventually course correct.

Things were closed for 2 years, and some places 2.5 years.





Crime has *not* risen everywhere. In most cities, it's on the decline. Not in DC:

https://twitter.com/cojobrien/status/1736755116575805887
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2023 12:28     Subject: Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
So funny seeing the lefties suffer the consequences of their own stupid actions
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2023 09:51     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote: in o
Anonymous wrote:For all the people who are frantic about the DC area. Crime has risen everywhere including in conservative states.

You cannot outrun the wave of crime that is happening from the pandemic, services and other businesses, employment, schools and all such were affected.

While it's unfortunate that carjackings have risen, this is likely making up for the time there were not any during the pandemic. I have faith things will eventually course correct.

Things were closed for 2 years, and some places 2.5 years.



It was mostly an overreaction after the death of George Floyd. Reforming and retraining police departments morphed into going easy on urban criminals in the name of “equity.” Crime spiked although it recently has been going down nationally. DC is the exception, and the brazenness and spread of crime to formerly safe neighborhoods suggest that local criminals believe that they will not be caught or held accountable. DC needs an urgent course correction.


We need a working crime lab. We need a tougher USAO who will prosecute. We need less laws like YRA and second look act. We need to arrest and prosecute anyone including teens who car jack people. We need broken windows policing. We need shoplifting taken seriously.

Basically, a bit of “everything” is correct. Yes, there are pandemic related effects on crime.

Yes, the George Floyd, BLM and even John Legend and Kim Kardashian celebrity led efforts to more broadly implement criminal justice reform have essentially advocated for alternatives to incarceration like restorative justice which I think sends a weak signal about being serious about combating violent crime.

Yea, teens know they can steal “free cars” without consequence at present.

Yes, speeders know they won’t lose their license because the district will renew licenses even for those with $12k in speeding tickets who went on to smash into and kill three people in Rock Creek park recently.

Why can’t we crack down? Why can’t we legalize drugs and use social workers for overdose victims and nonviolent stuff, but actually get real and arrest and strongly prosecute all these violent criminals? Everyone is scared of social justice warriors who might yell at them. Really, we will lose our tax base if crime continues like this.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2023 07:27     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:For all the people who are frantic about the DC area. Crime has risen everywhere including in conservative states.

You cannot outrun the wave of crime that is happening from the pandemic, services and other businesses, employment, schools and all such were affected.

While it's unfortunate that carjackings have risen, this is likely making up for the time there were not any during the pandemic. I have faith things will eventually course correct.

Things were closed for 2 years, and some places 2.5 years.

Crime is falling in nearly every city *except* DC:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/19/dc-homicides-rising-major-cities/



Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 21:21     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all the people who are frantic about the DC area. Crime has risen everywhere including in conservative states.

You cannot outrun the wave of crime that is happening from the pandemic, services and other businesses, employment, schools and all such were affected.

While it's unfortunate that carjackings have risen, this is likely making up for the time there were not any during the pandemic. I have faith things will eventually course correct.

Things were closed for 2 years, and some places 2.5 years.





This tired and mistaken gaslighting all over again. This is demonstrably not true. Please become a better informed person.
PP is not misinformed. They know the stats. They're just trying to convince everyone else of the lies they want sold.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 20:37     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:

I wish there was a political group (Not DC Dems too corrupt and entrenched now) to back only centrist "
common sense" democrates. We need to replace at least 10 of the council members asap.


DC needs an "open" Democratic primary in which independents are allowed to vote. That would result in more centrist candidates winning faster than anything. Any jurisdiction which is completely controlled by one party---whether it be the deep red states in the South and the midwest---or deep blue places like San Francisco or Portland---skews to the extremists.


This bears repeating.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 20:04     Subject: Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When was this era that you would like to go "back" to?



Fenty please


Tony Williams
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 19:34     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?

I wish there was a political group (Not DC Dems too corrupt and entrenched now) to back only centrist "
common sense" democrates. We need to replace at least 10 of the council members asap.


DC needs an "open" Democratic primary in which independents are allowed to vote. That would result in more centrist candidates winning faster than anything. Any jurisdiction which is completely controlled by one party---whether it be the deep red states in the South and the midwest---or deep blue places like San Francisco or Portland---skews to the extremists.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 19:29     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:For all the people who are frantic about the DC area. Crime has risen everywhere including in conservative states.

You cannot outrun the wave of crime that is happening from the pandemic, services and other businesses, employment, schools and all such were affected.

While it's unfortunate that carjackings have risen, this is likely making up for the time there were not any during the pandemic. I have faith things will eventually course correct.

Things were closed for 2 years, and some places 2.5 years.





Sorry, when you back out the blue cities, conservative states did just fine.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 19:26     Subject: Re:Will DC eve go back to being somewhat tough on crime?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all the people who are frantic about the DC area. Crime has risen everywhere including in conservative states.

You cannot outrun the wave of crime that is happening from the pandemic, services and other businesses, employment, schools and all such were affected.

While it's unfortunate that carjackings have risen, this is likely making up for the time there were not any during the pandemic. I have faith things will eventually course correct.

Things were closed for 2 years, and some places 2.5 years.



It was mostly an overreaction after the death of George Floyd. Reforming and retraining police departments morphed into going easy on urban criminals in the name of “equity.” Crime spiked although it recently has been going down nationally. DC is the exception, and the brazenness and spread of crime to formerly safe neighborhoods suggest that local criminals believe that they will not be caught or held accountable. DC needs an urgent course correction.


Good summary