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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.

Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Wrong. Plenty of states will vote in favor of abortion rights.
DP

The Vanishing Moderate Democrat

The bigger, more consequential question — not just for the moderates but for all Democrats — is whether this projected midterm wipeout is merely a cyclical occurrence or the manifestation of a much deeper and more intractable problem. Over the last decade, the Democratic Party has moved significantly to the left on almost every salient political issue.

On social, cultural and religious issues, particularly those related to criminal justice, race, abortion and gender identity, the Democrats have taken up ideological stances that many of the party’s base cheer but the rest of the electorate does not. “The Democratic Party moved left,” says Will Marshall, the president and founder of the Progressive Policy Institute, a moderate Democratic think tank, “but the country as a whole hasn’t.”

“There’s a sense among voters that Democrats are too focused on social issues,” says Brian Stryker, a Democratic pollster, “and those are more left-wing social issues that people think they’re too focused on.” In May, CNN asked 1,007 American voters for their opinions on the country’s two major political parties. After four years of Trump in the White House, an insurrection and unsuccessful attempt to overturn a presidential election and now a Republican Party that can be fairly described as a cult of personality and is moving further right on many of the same social issues, 46 percent of those surveyed considered the G.O.P. to be “too extreme.” But 48 percent of them viewed the Democratic Party the same way.

“There’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that the Democratic Party has a problem as a toxic brand,” says Max Rose, a moderate New York Democrat who lost re-election to his House seat in Staten Island in 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/29/magazine/moderate-democrat.html

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Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need

Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.

What does that mean?

NP.

Google Biden’s numerous attempts to force states to let trans-identifying men into women’s sports, bathrooms, prisons, and refer to biological males as “she.” Google Lia Thomas. Then Google the two female inmates pregnant at a NJ *women’s* prison because the Democratic lunatics there are letting men who claim they think they’re women go to women’s prisons. It’s a goddamn sh-t show.

I don’t know how anyone who maintains a studious ignorance of the wreckage Democrats are making of women’s rights can consider themselves an informed voter. Wake the hell up.

You are a Republican and you think you support women's rights because you're mad about a transgender athlete? I'm not in favor of trans women competing against women personally but I'm not going to make that my hill to die on when Rs have banned abortion with no exception for rape, incest or health of mother in a number of red states, and more to come. Stop gaslighting.

I dont think the pp telling you their opinion is "gaslighting."

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Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need

Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.

What does that mean?

NP.

Google Biden’s numerous attempts to force states to let trans-identifying men into women’s sports, bathrooms, prisons, and refer to biological males as “she.” Google Lia Thomas. Then Google the two female inmates pregnant at a NJ *women’s* prison because the Democratic lunatics there are letting men who claim they think they’re women go to women’s prisons. It’s a goddamn sh-t show.

I don’t know how anyone who maintains a studious ignorance of the wreckage Democrats are making of women’s rights can consider themselves an informed voter. Wake the hell up.

You are a Republican and you think you support women's rights because you're mad about a transgender athlete? I'm not in favor of trans women competing against women personally but I'm not going to make that my hill to die on when Rs have banned abortion with no exception for rape, incest or health of mother in a number of red states, and more to come. Stop gaslighting.

Sure, whatever you say.

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Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need

Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.

What does that mean?

NP.

Google Biden’s numerous attempts to force states to let trans-identifying men into women’s sports, bathrooms, prisons, and refer to biological males as “she.” Google Lia Thomas. Then Google the two female inmates pregnant at a NJ *women’s* prison because the Democratic lunatics there are letting men who claim they think they’re women go to women’s prisons. It’s a goddamn sh-t show.

I don’t know how anyone who maintains a studious ignorance of the wreckage Democrats are making of women’s rights can consider themselves an informed voter. Wake the hell up.

You are a Republican and you think you support women's rights because you're mad about a transgender athlete? I'm not in favor of trans women competing against women personally but I'm not going to make that my hill to die on when Rs have banned abortion with no exception for rape, incest or health of mother in a number of red states, and more to come. Stop gaslighting.

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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.

Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.

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Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need

Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.

What does that mean?

DP. You know exactly what that means. You simply choose to ignore it, and all the other issues PP laid out. She is absolutely right, on all counts.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, But am voting Republican. Dems have not fixed border issue, economy is in the crapper, gas prices are higher than ever with NO plan to fix them. No thanks.

Economy is cyclical. If you have a GOP plan, I'll be happy to take a look at it. I have not seen any.
GOP did not fix the border issue either.

At least GOP wants to fix the border.

Biden administration says it is “secure.”

Oh, very happy to see what they did during 2016-2020. Other than build useless pieces of wall that enriched their friends.

Biden doesn’t want to close the border. Trump did. DeSantis WILL.

When did Trump close the border?

Trump didn’t close the border. Idiot and brainwashed Fox idiots think he did.

FTR, I’m a lifelong Dem.

You can compare #s of immigrants who crossed under Trump vs Biden. While trump didn’t 100% close it, the #s decreased dramatically under Trump and then jumped once Biden took office and started rolling back Trump policy. That’s a fact. The #s of kids and adults entering each week are available online.

Google MPP/ Remain in Mexico.

Why do people care so much about this? I honestly don't see how it affects you at. all.

Except that you enjoy remarkably affordable landscaping, housecleaning and childcare.

Check your privilege.

I live in a solidly middle-class neighborhood and the influx of undocumented immigrants has changed our neighborhood completely over the past 25 years. It affects my family’s life on a daily basis - schools, illegal rentals in the neighborhood, uninsured drivers, etc.

It may not affect your life (except for your cheap labor source) but for some middle-class Americans, it has had a strong effect on our lives.

Cool story, bro.

Yeah, that’s the response I would expect from my liberal, progressive, Democrat neighbors. Thanks for solidifying why I can no longer support the Democrats. You have all made it abundantly clear that you don’t care about me or my family.

I am a pro-choice female with female daughters, but just like the other PPs, I am not a single issue voter.

Yes, I care about abortion rights, but I also care about many other issues.

Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about our kids when they kept my kids out of school buildings for over a year.
Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about my kids when they tried to force Covid shots on our young kids.
Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about me when they forced me to quit my job when I didn’t want to get an unnecessary booster (DC).
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my girls when they push trans athletes into female sports.
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my girls when they don’t care about female students being raped in school restrooms (Loudon County).
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my family finances, my neighborhood, my kid’s schools, crime, illegal immigration, etc.

I’ll be voting for whoever I can that is NOT a Democrat.

+100

And, they have made it clear that they don't care about public safety with their "defund the police" efforts and progressive prosecutors who refuse to do their jobs.

Ds are not interested in defunding the police. That is Fox News propaganda. Rs are interested in criminalizing homosexuality, contraception and abortion though.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

Yeah total Fox News fabrication right?

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao- is this about Roe?!? Pass laws in your state if you are so popular.

EXACTLY. Vote for abortion rights in your own states.

We will. Unfortunately, if Rs control House and Senate, they will pass a national abortion ban. I am going to do whatever it takes to fight that.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, But am voting Republican. Dems have not fixed border issue, economy is in the crapper, gas prices are higher than ever with NO plan to fix them. No thanks.

Economy is cyclical. If you have a GOP plan, I'll be happy to take a look at it. I have not seen any.
GOP did not fix the border issue either.

At least GOP wants to fix the border.

Biden administration says it is “secure.”

Oh, very happy to see what they did during 2016-2020. Other than build useless pieces of wall that enriched their friends.

Biden doesn’t want to close the border. Trump did. DeSantis WILL.

When did Trump close the border?

Trump didn’t close the border. Idiot and brainwashed Fox idiots think he did.

FTR, I’m a lifelong Dem.

You can compare #s of immigrants who crossed under Trump vs Biden. While trump didn’t 100% close it, the #s decreased dramatically under Trump and then jumped once Biden took office and started rolling back Trump policy. That’s a fact. The #s of kids and adults entering each week are available online.

Google MPP/ Remain in Mexico.

Why do people care so much about this? I honestly don't see how it affects you at. all.

Except that you enjoy remarkably affordable landscaping, housecleaning and childcare.

Check your privilege.

I live in a solidly middle-class neighborhood and the influx of undocumented immigrants has changed our neighborhood completely over the past 25 years. It affects my family’s life on a daily basis - schools, illegal rentals in the neighborhood, uninsured drivers, etc.

It may not affect your life (except for your cheap labor source) but for some middle-class Americans, it has had a strong effect on our lives.

Cool story, bro.

Yeah, that’s the response I would expect from my liberal, progressive, Democrat neighbors. Thanks for solidifying why I can no longer support the Democrats. You have all made it abundantly clear that you don’t care about me or my family.

I am a pro-choice female with female daughters, but just like the other PPs, I am not a single issue voter.

Yes, I care about abortion rights, but I also care about many other issues.

Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about our kids when they kept my kids out of school buildings for over a year.
Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about my kids when they tried to force Covid shots on our young kids.
Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about me when they forced me to quit my job when I didn’t want to get an unnecessary booster (DC).
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my girls when they push trans athletes into female sports.
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my girls when they don’t care about female students being raped in school restrooms (Loudon County).
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my family finances, my neighborhood, my kid’s schools, crime, illegal immigration, etc.

I’ll be voting for whoever I can that is NOT a Democrat.

+100

And, they have made it clear that they don't care about public safety with their "defund the police" efforts and progressive prosecutors who refuse to do their jobs.

Ds are not interested in defunding the police. That is Fox News propaganda. Rs are interested in criminalizing homosexuality, contraception and abortion though.

Major left leaning news papers like NYT published editorials endorsing defund. And yeah an editorial is just another way of endorsing something but with some plausible deniability.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm not voting for any Republicans now. Not even "reasonable" ones like Larry Hogan.

Ii am never voting for a Republican again. The ones like Hogan who have refused to denounce their party are just as despicable as the Trumpers who continue to spout the Big Lie.

No matter what your party, folks, you have to vote for Democrats if you want our country to remain a democracy.

The SCOTUS has turned the corner, and will soon turn control of voting over to state legislatures.

Democrats must retain control and the local, state and national levels. Congress must remain the hands of the Democrats.

Mitch McConnel has his Supreme Court, and God Help Us what this radical-right court will dismantle next.

I don't want to return to 1950, do you?

If not, VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS, straight ticket up and down. SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY!!!!!

You claim you want our country to remain a democracy - but *only* if Democrats are in charge. No thanks, hypocrite!

Only Democrats are currently anti-fascist. It wasn’t always this way but it is now. If you can’t see that reality, you’re lost.

The simpering PP is a fascist. Of course they want the fascists in power. If we all band together and vote Democratic, their little plans are toast.

Oh, please. "Anyone who doesn't agree with me 100% = fascist." Good luck to you. You'll need it.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, But am voting Republican. Dems have not fixed border issue, economy is in the crapper, gas prices are higher than ever with NO plan to fix them. No thanks.

Economy is cyclical. If you have a GOP plan, I'll be happy to take a look at it. I have not seen any.
GOP did not fix the border issue either.

At least GOP wants to fix the border.

Biden administration says it is “secure.”

Oh, very happy to see what they did during 2016-2020. Other than build useless pieces of wall that enriched their friends.

Biden doesn’t want to close the border. Trump did. DeSantis WILL.

When did Trump close the border?

Trump didn’t close the border. Idiot and brainwashed Fox idiots think he did.

FTR, I’m a lifelong Dem.

You can compare #s of immigrants who crossed under Trump vs Biden. While trump didn’t 100% close it, the #s decreased dramatically under Trump and then jumped once Biden took office and started rolling back Trump policy. That’s a fact. The #s of kids and adults entering each week are available online.

Google MPP/ Remain in Mexico.

Why do people care so much about this? I honestly don't see how it affects you at. all.

Except that you enjoy remarkably affordable landscaping, housecleaning and childcare.

Check your privilege.

I live in a solidly middle-class neighborhood and the influx of undocumented immigrants has changed our neighborhood completely over the past 25 years. It affects my family’s life on a daily basis - schools, illegal rentals in the neighborhood, uninsured drivers, etc.

It may not affect your life (except for your cheap labor source) but for some middle-class Americans, it has had a strong effect on our lives.

Cool story, bro.

Yeah, that’s the response I would expect from my liberal, progressive, Democrat neighbors. Thanks for solidifying why I can no longer support the Democrats. You have all made it abundantly clear that you don’t care about me or my family.

I am a pro-choice female with female daughters, but just like the other PPs, I am not a single issue voter.

Yes, I care about abortion rights, but I also care about many other issues.

Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about our kids when they kept my kids out of school buildings for over a year.
Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about my kids when they tried to force Covid shots on our young kids.
Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about me when they forced me to quit my job when I didn’t want to get an unnecessary booster (DC).
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my girls when they push trans athletes into female sports.
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my girls when they don’t care about female students being raped in school restrooms (Loudon County).
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my family finances, my neighborhood, my kid’s schools, crime, illegal immigration, etc.

I’ll be voting for whoever I can that is NOT a Democrat.

+100

And, they have made it clear that they don't care about public safety with their "defund the police" efforts and progressive prosecutors who refuse to do their jobs.

Ds are not interested in defunding the police. That is Fox News propaganda. Rs are interested in criminalizing homosexuality, contraception and abortion though.

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Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need

Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.

What does that mean?

NP.

Google Biden’s numerous attempts to force states to let trans-identifying men into women’s sports, bathrooms, prisons, and refer to biological males as “she.” Google Lia Thomas. Then Google the two female inmates pregnant at a NJ *women’s* prison because the Democratic lunatics there are letting men who claim they think they’re women go to women’s prisons. It’s a goddamn sh-t show.

I don’t know how anyone who maintains a studious ignorance of the wreckage Democrats are making of women’s rights can consider themselves an informed voter. Wake the hell up.

Anonymous wrote:Listen, there are a lot of problematic Democrats and I don't always vote for one party, but this next election cycle I don't care if they have a dog up. I'm going to vote Democrat because it is more likely they will get me closer to where I want to be in this country than any Republican ever could. Seeing what Youngkin did prove that to me.
The second these Republicans get power. They just want to take it away from everyone else and I'm no longer going to fall for their wolf in sheep's clothing.
I get the Democrats aren't perfect. I agree they are not doing enough being vocal enough. Have a strong enough message but you know what That's the horse I have to put my money on because they're literally is no other option for democracy.

Yup. This is how it’s going to have to be to crush the fascists. The Democrats have to win by such a ridiculous margin that they have room to maneuver. And preferably with fangs and claws.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, But am voting Republican. Dems have not fixed border issue, economy is in the crapper, gas prices are higher than ever with NO plan to fix them. No thanks.

Economy is cyclical. If you have a GOP plan, I'll be happy to take a look at it. I have not seen any.
GOP did not fix the border issue either.

At least GOP wants to fix the border.

Biden administration says it is “secure.”

Oh, very happy to see what they did during 2016-2020. Other than build useless pieces of wall that enriched their friends.

Biden doesn’t want to close the border. Trump did. DeSantis WILL.

When did Trump close the border?

Trump didn’t close the border. Idiot and brainwashed Fox idiots think he did.

FTR, I’m a lifelong Dem.

You can compare #s of immigrants who crossed under Trump vs Biden. While trump didn’t 100% close it, the #s decreased dramatically under Trump and then jumped once Biden took office and started rolling back Trump policy. That’s a fact. The #s of kids and adults entering each week are available online.

Google MPP/ Remain in Mexico.

Why do people care so much about this? I honestly don't see how it affects you at. all.

Except that you enjoy remarkably affordable landscaping, housecleaning and childcare.

Check your privilege.

I live in a solidly middle-class neighborhood and the influx of undocumented immigrants has changed our neighborhood completely over the past 25 years. It affects my family’s life on a daily basis - schools, illegal rentals in the neighborhood, uninsured drivers, etc.

It may not affect your life (except for your cheap labor source) but for some middle-class Americans, it has had a strong effect on our lives.

Cool story, bro.

Yeah, that’s the response I would expect from my liberal, progressive, Democrat neighbors. Thanks for solidifying why I can no longer support the Democrats. You have all made it abundantly clear that you don’t care about me or my family.

I am a pro-choice female with female daughters, but just like the other PPs, I am not a single issue voter.

Yes, I care about abortion rights, but I also care about many other issues.

Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about our kids when they kept my kids out of school buildings for over a year.
Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about my kids when they tried to force Covid shots on our young kids.
Democrats made it clear that they didn’t care about me when they forced me to quit my job when I didn’t want to get an unnecessary booster (DC).
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my girls when they push trans athletes into female sports.
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my girls when they don’t care about female students being raped in school restrooms (Loudon County).
Democrats make it clear that they don’t care about my family finances, my neighborhood, my kid’s schools, crime, illegal immigration, etc.

I’ll be voting for whoever I can that is NOT a Democrat.

You don't seem to be able to separate local from state from Federal elections. I usually vote R locally but I'll vote D nationally because I don't understand how anybody could vote for a lying crook like Trump or a lying performer like DeSantis.