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Post 07/06/2022 19:14     Subject: Re:Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:Blair understands business. He understands how to use subsidies effectively, and he understands what keeps businesses away. More than anything, we need jobs. Blair is the only candidate who has convinced me that he will succeed in attracting jobs. Riemer has a weird plan to get jobs based on getting developers to create a housing surplus (our housing is already cheaper than DC and Fairfax, which is why developers prefer building in those places), and Elrich has nothing.


How would raising property taxes help create jobs? If anything, it makes me want to move.


Who said anything about raising property taxes other than the current office holders?


Didn't Blair spend money out of his own pocket to back that initiative to make it easier to raise property taxes?


The council, of which Riemer was a member, voted unanimously to put that initiative on the ballot. The initiative made sense in some ways — the old constant yield law made budgeting more difficult and made it difficult to replace existing infrastructure, fund infrastructure to accommodate growth and maintain services. The new law caps the property tax rate (actually requires council to vote unanimously to raise rate) so it allows property taxes to increase with assessments. Property taxes went up under the old scheme too.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2022 18:11     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.


Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/


Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!


A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.


Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).


Al Carr is awesome! I’m not even in his district but I have a sign up for him. He helped make it easier for self employed people to deal with county and state bureaucracy.

Not that poster, but trying to get a more moderate slate in there. Traditional liberal rather than progressive, because while I agree morally with progressive ideas, county leadership just blows things up in the name of progressivism and they do more harm than good. I'm all for evidence-based improvements.

My ideal slate:

CE: Blair

Council:
Friedson: District 1
Balcombe: District 2
Katz: District 3
Ginsberg: District 4
Koroma: District 5
Lazo: District 6
Manger or Luedtke: District 7 (my district, and I haven't been able to choose yet between these two).

Council At Large:
Albornoz
Glass
Goldberg
(not sure about a 4th) Hucker sucks, Jawando is a loose cannon. I would like Sayles but she doesn't seem very solid on the issues. At least not the issues I care about.

Sheriff: Max Uy
State's Attorney: DeGonia
Clerk: Bushnell

Board of Ed:

District 1: Grace Rivera Oven
District 3: Julie Yang
District 5: Valerie Coll
At Large: Not sure.


These are all good choices, except definitely a BIG NO to Ginsburg. Al Carr would be better. Also, Sayles is good and provides more upcountry representation.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2022 17:46     Subject: Re:Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:Blair understands business. He understands how to use subsidies effectively, and he understands what keeps businesses away. More than anything, we need jobs. Blair is the only candidate who has convinced me that he will succeed in attracting jobs. Riemer has a weird plan to get jobs based on getting developers to create a housing surplus (our housing is already cheaper than DC and Fairfax, which is why developers prefer building in those places), and Elrich has nothing.


How would raising property taxes help create jobs? If anything, it makes me want to move.


Who said anything about raising property taxes other than the current office holders?


Didn't Blair spend money out of his own pocket to back that initiative to make it easier to raise property taxes?
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2022 16:57     Subject: Re:Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:Blair understands business. He understands how to use subsidies effectively, and he understands what keeps businesses away. More than anything, we need jobs. Blair is the only candidate who has convinced me that he will succeed in attracting jobs. Riemer has a weird plan to get jobs based on getting developers to create a housing surplus (our housing is already cheaper than DC and Fairfax, which is why developers prefer building in those places), and Elrich has nothing.


How would raising property taxes help create jobs? If anything, it makes me want to move.


Who said anything about raising property taxes other than the current office holders?
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2022 16:31     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Reimer.


This is a sincere question: will you explain why? I don’t see one redeeming quality in Reimer and am interested in hearing what a Reimer voter sees in him.


Because I don't trust Blair; he is not a traditional Democrat. Blair is a developer backed candidate and I am wary of his intentions. Elrich is Elrich, I have never been a fan of his.


I’ve got news for you. Hans Riemer loooooooves developers. He wrote the bill to give them tax breaks for 15 years for building more density. Riemer is probably worse on development than Blair. Elrich is the only moderate when it comes to developers and development.


Elrich isn’t a moderate on development. He’s anti development. That’s not moderate.

And Riemer is also not a moderate, but in the other direction. Elrich hates developers making profit and Riemer loves helping developers make a profit, even at the expense of the county and economic development.


Riemer is just a professional politician who wants to finish the job of remaking MoCo in California’s image. At least I’m convinced that Blair and Elrich actually want to better the County.
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Post 07/06/2022 16:27     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:OK - then how about Blair vs Reimer?


Blair. I wasn’t a fan of Reimer’s before, but his constant social media attacks have not impressed me. He seems to revel in insulting others, especially his competitors. He’s the only one running such a negative campaign.

I also don’t like his treatment of MCPD. I think it shows how duplicitous he is. He was on the attack against MCPD for years. Now that he’s running for county exec, he has found some new love for them… but only for management. I’m under the impression this is only to show some facade of support for the department during the election cycle while still allowing him to vilify officers.


Riemer is the worst.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2022 15:52     Subject: Re:Moderates- Eleich or Blair

Anonymous wrote:Blair understands business. He understands how to use subsidies effectively, and he understands what keeps businesses away. More than anything, we need jobs. Blair is the only candidate who has convinced me that he will succeed in attracting jobs. Riemer has a weird plan to get jobs based on getting developers to create a housing surplus (our housing is already cheaper than DC and Fairfax, which is why developers prefer building in those places), and Elrich has nothing.


How would raising property taxes help create jobs? If anything, it makes me want to move.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2022 15:51     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

Anonymous wrote:I’d go with Blair. If anything, it’s necessary to upend county politics a bit. He’s a moderate outsider, which is a good thing.


Isn't he bent on raising property taxes to fund a bunch of give aways to developers?
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Post 07/06/2022 14:48     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.


Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/


Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!


A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.


Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).


That is my post above. I am voting the following for BOE:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll


On another thread - someone shared this. I've only read a few responses so far, but found the Q&A section helpful.
https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses/
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2022 06:00     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal Democrat, and Blair has my vote! I’m done with Elrich after the pandemic and his utter hypocrisy. Time for a new start.


Still wondering why so many people view lack of actual government experiences as a plus. Also wondering why so few Blair supporters on this site support their positions with actual specifics. I guess my takeaway should be to recognize how limited using a site like this can be when it comes to getting detailed information on even prominent local candidates. I’m planning to vote for Elrich — unless I can get information that goes beyond the level of the stuff that gets put on campaign flyers for Blair.



DP and for me it’s not that the lack of local government experience is a plus, I just don’t view it as a negative. You have to start somewhere and I think Blair’s ripe if experience would translate well to county executive. And while the other two candidates have years of local govt experience, neither are particularly good at their jobs.

I find flyers/texts pretty useless too but you can learn much more at the campaign websites.


Thanks! I find Blair’s flyers to be somewhat misleading. I will try again with his website, so thanks for the suggestion. One of my concerns about Blair is that knowing —I guess — that he planned to run again for CE, he seems to have done nothing that I’m aware of that addressed my concern re: his lack of government experience. I agree that you do have to start somewhere, though. I’m concerned both about experiences and about genuine civic mindedness, and an understanding of non-profit types of goals, but I do get that much of his experience might translate well to the CE role.


PP here- I get it! I was skeptical last time and voted for Krasnow.

I’ll admit I send all the mail immediately to the recycling bin.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2022 21:23     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal Democrat, and Blair has my vote! I’m done with Elrich after the pandemic and his utter hypocrisy. Time for a new start.


Still wondering why so many people view lack of actual government experiences as a plus. Also wondering why so few Blair supporters on this site support their positions with actual specifics. I guess my takeaway should be to recognize how limited using a site like this can be when it comes to getting detailed information on even prominent local candidates. I’m planning to vote for Elrich — unless I can get information that goes beyond the level of the stuff that gets put on campaign flyers for Blair.



DP and for me it’s not that the lack of local government experience is a plus, I just don’t view it as a negative. You have to start somewhere and I think Blair’s ripe if experience would translate well to county executive. And while the other two candidates have years of local govt experience, neither are particularly good at their jobs.

I find flyers/texts pretty useless too but you can learn much more at the campaign websites.


Thanks! I find Blair’s flyers to be somewhat misleading. I will try again with his website, so thanks for the suggestion. One of my concerns about Blair is that knowing —I guess — that he planned to run again for CE, he seems to have done nothing that I’m aware of that addressed my concern re: his lack of government experience. I agree that you do have to start somewhere, though. I’m concerned both about experiences and about genuine civic mindedness, and an understanding of non-profit types of goals, but I do get that much of his experience might translate well to the CE role.

DP. Misleading in what way?
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2022 21:07     Subject: Re:Moderates- Eleich or Blair

Anonymous wrote:Blair understands business. He understands how to use subsidies effectively, and he understands what keeps businesses away. More than anything, we need jobs. Blair is the only candidate who has convinced me that he will succeed in attracting jobs. Riemer has a weird plan to get jobs based on getting developers to create a housing surplus (our housing is already cheaper than DC and Fairfax, which is why developers prefer building in those places), and Elrich has nothing.


Excellent points about Blair. Definitely important issues and skills to consider.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2022 21:05     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal Democrat, and Blair has my vote! I’m done with Elrich after the pandemic and his utter hypocrisy. Time for a new start.


Still wondering why so many people view lack of actual government experiences as a plus. Also wondering why so few Blair supporters on this site support their positions with actual specifics. I guess my takeaway should be to recognize how limited using a site like this can be when it comes to getting detailed information on even prominent local candidates. I’m planning to vote for Elrich — unless I can get information that goes beyond the level of the stuff that gets put on campaign flyers for Blair.



DP and for me it’s not that the lack of local government experience is a plus, I just don’t view it as a negative. You have to start somewhere and I think Blair’s ripe if experience would translate well to county executive. And while the other two candidates have years of local govt experience, neither are particularly good at their jobs.

I find flyers/texts pretty useless too but you can learn much more at the campaign websites.


Thanks! I find Blair’s flyers to be somewhat misleading. I will try again with his website, so thanks for the suggestion. One of my concerns about Blair is that knowing —I guess — that he planned to run again for CE, he seems to have done nothing that I’m aware of that addressed my concern re: his lack of government experience. I agree that you do have to start somewhere, though. I’m concerned both about experiences and about genuine civic mindedness, and an understanding of non-profit types of goals, but I do get that much of his experience might translate well to the CE role.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2022 20:59     Subject: Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.


Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/


Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!


A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.


Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).


Not that poster, but trying to get a more moderate slate in there. Traditional liberal rather than progressive, because while I agree morally with progressive ideas, county leadership just blows things up in the name of progressivism and they do more harm than good. I'm all for evidence-based improvements.

My ideal slate:

CE: Blair

Council:
Friedson: District 1
Balcombe: District 2
Katz: District 3
Ginsberg: District 4
Koroma: District 5
Lazo: District 6
Manger or Luedtke: District 7 (my district, and I haven't been able to choose yet between these two).

Council At Large:
Albornoz
Glass
Goldberg
(not sure about a 4th) Hucker sucks, Jawando is a loose cannon. I would like Sayles but she doesn't seem very solid on the issues. At least not the issues I care about.

Sheriff: Max Uy
State's Attorney: DeGonia
Clerk: Bushnell

Board of Ed:

District 1: Grace Rivera Oven
District 3: Julie Yang
District 5: Valerie Coll
At Large: Not sure.


These are all good choices, except definitely a BIG NO to Ginsburg. Al Carr would be better. Also, Sayles is good and provides more upcountry representation.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2022 17:14     Subject: Re:Moderates- Eleich or Blair

Blair understands business. He understands how to use subsidies effectively, and he understands what keeps businesses away. More than anything, we need jobs. Blair is the only candidate who has convinced me that he will succeed in attracting jobs. Riemer has a weird plan to get jobs based on getting developers to create a housing surplus (our housing is already cheaper than DC and Fairfax, which is why developers prefer building in those places), and Elrich has nothing.