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Anonymous wrote:Kids can find a large cohort of strong peers at the top schools like Langley, McLean, Chantilly and Oakton, but not at Lewis or Mount Vernon, so the types of kids who need a Governor’s School in each pyramid can vary. If you look at it that way, the fact that the top kids coming from the low-performing pyramids in general might be just average at a top school doesn’t matter; what matters is that they wouldn’t be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon.

How on earth would any regular smart kid not be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon? Every single FCPS high school either has a full IB program or a full load of AP classes. The overwhelming majority of kids can be challenged at any base school in FCPS. I know a few full IB diploma graduates of Annandale high school. They did not lack for a peer group or sufficient challenge.

How many National Merit Semifinalists from Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon in recent years? Next to none, which underscores that the most talented kids from those pyramids may not be reaching their potential. Maybe they need TJ more than other kids who’d do just as well at Chantilly or Langley, which clearly have a very strong peer group.

There is no correlation between quality of instruction at the base school and NMS. The low SES schools aren’t failing to develop their kids potential. NMS is just a reflection that affluent kids can invest more resources in prepping for the pSAT

There certainly is a difference.

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The South Asians who immigrated here and populate NOVA are likely in the top quarter of the distribution curve in their countries of origin. That’s how many of them earned the right to immigrate here. Natural ability is more concentrated in that population.

Much higher than top quarter. The IQ levels in these countries is pretty low, though this may be based on rural populations.
It is quite possible that the grandkids and later generations of these immigrants will not be standing out so much.

Stop quivering. Asians have the highest average IQ - no need to try to splain it away.

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Most have families who shell out $20k for prep classes so by my definition they're wealthy.

Curie costs $6250 for a rising 7th grader for classes until they complete 8th grade.
$4050 if they skip summer and 2nd semester of 8th grade.

So if most start training in 6th, roughly $16k for the usual 2.5 years of prep?

No. $6250 total for 7th and 8th combined, if you do summer and 2nd semester 8th.
6th grade has different classes, and might not even have a TJ prep. I saw things like robotics for $400.

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The South Asians who immigrated here and populate NOVA are likely in the top quarter of the distribution curve in their countries of origin. That’s how many of them earned the right to immigrate here. Natural ability is more concentrated in that population.

Much higher than top quarter. The IQ levels in these countries is pretty low, though this may be based on rural populations.
It is quite possible that the grandkids and later generations of these immigrants will not be standing out so much.

Stop quivering. Asians have the highest average IQ - no need to try to splain it away.

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The South Asians who immigrated here and populate NOVA are likely in the top quarter of the distribution curve in their countries of origin. That’s how many of them earned the right to immigrate here. Natural ability is more concentrated in that population.

Much higher than top quarter. The IQ levels in these countries is pretty low, though this may be based on rural populations.
It is quite possible that the grandkids and later generations of these immigrants will not be standing out so much.

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The South Asians who immigrated here and populate NOVA are likely in the top quarter of the distribution curve in their countries of origin. That’s how many of them earned the right to immigrate here. Natural ability is more concentrated in that population.

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DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.

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So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.

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Most have families who shell out $20k for prep classes so by my definition they're wealthy.

Curie costs $6250 for a rising 7th grader for classes until they complete 8th grade.
$4050 if they skip summer and 2nd semester of 8th grade.

So if most start training in 6th, roughly $16k for the usual 2.5 years of prep?

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can find a large cohort of strong peers at the top schools like Langley, McLean, Chantilly and Oakton, but not at Lewis or Mount Vernon, so the types of kids who need a Governor’s School in each pyramid can vary. If you look at it that way, the fact that the top kids coming from the low-performing pyramids in general might be just average at a top school doesn’t matter; what matters is that they wouldn’t be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon.

How on earth would any regular smart kid not be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon? Every single FCPS high school either has a full IB program or a full load of AP classes. The overwhelming majority of kids can be challenged at any base school in FCPS. I know a few full IB diploma graduates of Annandale high school. They did not lack for a peer group or sufficient challenge.

How many National Merit Semifinalists from Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon in recent years? Next to none, which underscores that the most talented kids from those pyramids may not be reaching their potential. Maybe they need TJ more than other kids who’d do just as well at Chantilly or Langley, which clearly have a very strong peer group.

There is no correlation between quality of instruction at the base school and NMS. The low SES schools aren’t failing to develop their kids potential. NMS is just a reflection that affluent kids can invest more resources in prepping for the pSAT

There certainly is a difference.

Of course there is. Why do you think Corbett Sanders is getting $40 million spent on West Potomac so kids can avoid Mount Vernon? Or why self-styled progressives like Keys Gamarra leave Lewis under-enrolled year after year?

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can find a large cohort of strong peers at the top schools like Langley, McLean, Chantilly and Oakton, but not at Lewis or Mount Vernon, so the types of kids who need a Governor’s School in each pyramid can vary. If you look at it that way, the fact that the top kids coming from the low-performing pyramids in general might be just average at a top school doesn’t matter; what matters is that they wouldn’t be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon.

How on earth would any regular smart kid not be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon? Every single FCPS high school either has a full IB program or a full load of AP classes. The overwhelming majority of kids can be challenged at any base school in FCPS. I know a few full IB diploma graduates of Annandale high school. They did not lack for a peer group or sufficient challenge.

How many National Merit Semifinalists from Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon in recent years? Next to none, which underscores that the most talented kids from those pyramids may not be reaching their potential. Maybe they need TJ more than other kids who’d do just as well at Chantilly or Langley, which clearly have a very strong peer group.

There is no correlation between quality of instruction at the base school and NMS. The low SES schools aren’t failing to develop their kids potential. NMS is just a reflection that affluent kids can invest more resources in prepping for the pSAT

There certainly is a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can find a large cohort of strong peers at the top schools like Langley, McLean, Chantilly and Oakton, but not at Lewis or Mount Vernon, so the types of kids who need a Governor’s School in each pyramid can vary. If you look at it that way, the fact that the top kids coming from the low-performing pyramids in general might be just average at a top school doesn’t matter; what matters is that they wouldn’t be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon.

How on earth would any regular smart kid not be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon? Every single FCPS high school either has a full IB program or a full load of AP classes. The overwhelming majority of kids can be challenged at any base school in FCPS. I know a few full IB diploma graduates of Annandale high school. They did not lack for a peer group or sufficient challenge.

How many National Merit Semifinalists from Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon in recent years? Next to none, which underscores that the most talented kids from those pyramids may not be reaching their potential. Maybe they need TJ more than other kids who’d do just as well at Chantilly or Langley, which clearly have a very strong peer group.

There is no correlation between quality of instruction at the base school and NMS. The low SES schools aren’t failing to develop their kids potential. NMS is just a reflection that affluent kids can invest more resources in prepping for the pSAT

There certainly is a difference.

We hired a tutor for $300/hour and they were amazing. DC's score was up 250 points!

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can find a large cohort of strong peers at the top schools like Langley, McLean, Chantilly and Oakton, but not at Lewis or Mount Vernon, so the types of kids who need a Governor’s School in each pyramid can vary. If you look at it that way, the fact that the top kids coming from the low-performing pyramids in general might be just average at a top school doesn’t matter; what matters is that they wouldn’t be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon.

How on earth would any regular smart kid not be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon? Every single FCPS high school either has a full IB program or a full load of AP classes. The overwhelming majority of kids can be challenged at any base school in FCPS. I know a few full IB diploma graduates of Annandale high school. They did not lack for a peer group or sufficient challenge.

How many National Merit Semifinalists from Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon in recent years? Next to none, which underscores that the most talented kids from those pyramids may not be reaching their potential. Maybe they need TJ more than other kids who’d do just as well at Chantilly or Langley, which clearly have a very strong peer group.

There is no correlation between quality of instruction at the base school and NMS. The low SES schools aren’t failing to develop their kids potential. NMS is just a reflection that affluent kids can invest more resources in prepping for the pSAT

There certainly is a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can find a large cohort of strong peers at the top schools like Langley, McLean, Chantilly and Oakton, but not at Lewis or Mount Vernon, so the types of kids who need a Governor’s School in each pyramid can vary. If you look at it that way, the fact that the top kids coming from the low-performing pyramids in general might be just average at a top school doesn’t matter; what matters is that they wouldn’t be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon.

How on earth would any regular smart kid not be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon? Every single FCPS high school either has a full IB program or a full load of AP classes. The overwhelming majority of kids can be challenged at any base school in FCPS. I know a few full IB diploma graduates of Annandale high school. They did not lack for a peer group or sufficient challenge.

How many National Merit Semifinalists from Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon in recent years? Next to none, which underscores that the most talented kids from those pyramids may not be reaching their potential. Maybe they need TJ more than other kids who’d do just as well at Chantilly or Langley, which clearly have a very strong peer group.

There is no correlation between quality of instruction at the base school and NMS. The low SES schools aren’t failing to develop their kids potential. NMS is just a reflection that affluent kids can invest more resources in prepping for the pSAT

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can find a large cohort of strong peers at the top schools like Langley, McLean, Chantilly and Oakton, but not at Lewis or Mount Vernon, so the types of kids who need a Governor’s School in each pyramid can vary. If you look at it that way, the fact that the top kids coming from the low-performing pyramids in general might be just average at a top school doesn’t matter; what matters is that they wouldn’t be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon.

How on earth would any regular smart kid not be challenged at Lewis or Mount Vernon? Every single FCPS high school either has a full IB program or a full load of AP classes. The overwhelming majority of kids can be challenged at any base school in FCPS. I know a few full IB diploma graduates of Annandale high school. They did not lack for a peer group or sufficient challenge.

How many National Merit Semifinalists from Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon in recent years? Next to none, which underscores that the most talented kids from those pyramids may not be reaching their potential. Maybe they need TJ more than other kids who’d do just as well at Chantilly or Langley, which clearly have a very strong peer group.