Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 11:01     Subject: Re:Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.



The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.


Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.


So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.


There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it


Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 11:01     Subject: Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

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Anonymous wrote:This is getting ridiculous. How does this outfit argue that they care about students when they are screwing with the class of 2026 decisions?

Shut up and get out of the way.


Your desire for clarity doesn't override the Constitution, and FCPS is ignoring the district court decision now anyway.

You might have considered whether, with over 200 schools, FCPS is really up to the task of trying to administer the equivalent of the admissions process at a selective SLAC at a single high school.


The new class would be seated if coalition for TJ didn't appeal the circuit courts ruling


The new class would be seated if the school board hadn't changed the admissions process.


They changed the process to level the playing field and give all residents a fair chance not just those who invest in expensive prep classes designed to game selection. The real problem are those clinging to an unfair system and are harming everyone in the process.


And some are doing it for political gain.


Sure if by gain you mean ensuring these programs are open to all their constituents not just the wealthy who are inclined to spend large sums on prep sure.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 10:53     Subject: Re:Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.



The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.


Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.


So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.


There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 10:51     Subject: Re:Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.



The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.


Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.


So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 10:47     Subject: Re:Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.



The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.


Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 10:45     Subject: Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the lawsuit I’d like to see - all named members of the Coalition enjoined from being anywhere within 500 feet of TJ’s footprint. They’ve already engaged in enough violence against this class purporting that they don’t belong - their presence in and around the building endangers any student who doesn’t fit their narrative.

Parent of a current TJ kid? Too bad - should have thought of that before you relentlessly attacked the Class of 2025 to further your sickening agenda.


Where do I sign? These people are destroying the school.


These people destroyed the school when their kids became a majority.


PP. hard disagree. Let’s not conflate the Coalition folks with Asians as a whole. They claim to represent the entirety of that demographic but they do not. And no one serious who is pro-reform believes that Asians destroyed the school.


And specifically it's a tiny contingent of parents who are exploiting the situation for their own gains. NOT because they have students' best interests at heart.


I don't agree with them but how are they exploiting?



They are spinning up this whole issue in conservative news to drive “education” as a wedge issue for the GOP.

Go scroll through Asra’s Twitter feed. Clearly, she’s just trying to promote herself to land more spots on FoxNews and to push GOP candidates.

She’s a Trumphumper with Koch Bro friends at PDE.



And you don't like the GOP and conservatives. Understood. She is entitled to her political beliefs. I completely disagree with her political beliefs and her general methods. However, as parents, we have no choice but to stand up to the insane jealousy-driven hate toward our kids.


And you’re totally delusional.

This has nothing to do with Asian kids. Just the complete lack of diversity - in many aspects. Racial, economic, ELL, geographic, etc.


Please give it a rest. You are the ones destroying the school. On diversity, you do realize there are over 3billion people in India and China. We are as diverse as can be. Asians in FCPS speak many different languages, have different religions, backgrounds, income levels, and immigrant status. Maybe you should spend time with people who don't look like you to truly understand.


TJ is definitely the most diverse high school in this area. Those people refusing to see this it ruining this wonderful school. Hopefully the supreme court will stop them.


Any high-school that is 70% one demographic group is one of the least diverse in the county.


Yea, if you lump Indians, Vietnamese, Koreans, and Chinese together and call them the same demographic group.


Just like lumping together all of the European communities, African communities, Hispanic communities, American Indian tribes, etc?


Therefore diversity based on race is racist and counterproductive.


Yes I demand we have more short people, like me, in TJ. What is their percentage of short students?! Can we get some equity please.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 10:42     Subject: Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s the lawsuit I’d like to see - all named members of the Coalition enjoined from being anywhere within 500 feet of TJ’s footprint. They’ve already engaged in enough violence against this class purporting that they don’t belong - their presence in and around the building endangers any student who doesn’t fit their narrative.

Parent of a current TJ kid? Too bad - should have thought of that before you relentlessly attacked the Class of 2025 to further your sickening agenda.


Where do I sign? These people are destroying the school.


These people destroyed the school when their kids became a majority.


PP. hard disagree. Let’s not conflate the Coalition folks with Asians as a whole. They claim to represent the entirety of that demographic but they do not. And no one serious who is pro-reform believes that Asians destroyed the school.


And specifically it's a tiny contingent of parents who are exploiting the situation for their own gains. NOT because they have students' best interests at heart.


I don't agree with them but how are they exploiting?



They are spinning up this whole issue in conservative news to drive “education” as a wedge issue for the GOP.

Go scroll through Asra’s Twitter feed. Clearly, she’s just trying to promote herself to land more spots on FoxNews and to push GOP candidates.

She’s a Trumphumper with Koch Bro friends at PDE.



And you don't like the GOP and conservatives. Understood. She is entitled to her political beliefs. I completely disagree with her political beliefs and her general methods. However, as parents, we have no choice but to stand up to the insane jealousy-driven hate toward our kids.


And you’re totally delusional.

This has nothing to do with Asian kids. Just the complete lack of diversity - in many aspects. Racial, economic, ELL, geographic, etc.


Please give it a rest. You are the ones destroying the school. On diversity, you do realize there are over 3billion people in India and China. We are as diverse as can be. Asians in FCPS speak many different languages, have different religions, backgrounds, income levels, and immigrant status. Maybe you should spend time with people who don't look like you to truly understand.


TJ is definitely the most diverse high school in this area. Those people refusing to see this it ruining this wonderful school. Hopefully the supreme court will stop them.


Any high-school that is 70% one demographic group is one of the least diverse in the county.


Yea, if you lump Indians, Vietnamese, Koreans, and Chinese together and call them the same demographic group.


Just like lumping together all of the European communities, African communities, Hispanic communities, American Indian tribes, etc?


Therefore diversity based on race is racist and counterproductive.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 09:56     Subject: Re:Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.



The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.


Bingo.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 09:56     Subject: Re:Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.



The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 09:20     Subject: Re:Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 07:13     Subject: Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is getting ridiculous. How does this outfit argue that they care about students when they are screwing with the class of 2026 decisions?

Shut up and get out of the way.


Your desire for clarity doesn't override the Constitution, and FCPS is ignoring the district court decision now anyway.

You might have considered whether, with over 200 schools, FCPS is really up to the task of trying to administer the equivalent of the admissions process at a selective SLAC at a single high school.


The new class would be seated if coalition for TJ didn't appeal the circuit courts ruling


The new class would be seated if the school board hadn't changed the admissions process.


They changed the process to level the playing field and give all residents a fair chance not just those who invest in expensive prep classes designed to game selection. The real problem are those clinging to an unfair system and are harming everyone in the process.


And some are doing it for political gain.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 07:12     Subject: Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is living in public housing and reciving certain means tested welfare benefits counted in assessing a child’s SEN status.

Surely you can verify if a kids family is receiving SNAP and that’s a more concrete indicator of poverty than receiving free school meals which rich kids can get too.


This is entirely logical and a great idea.

However, it’s not what the TJ admissions office is using. They are using ONLY the meals questions for the economically disadvantaged experience factor.

If you do not believe me, please call or email them yourself. Or ask your school board member to ask them for you.


There are TWO questions:
Are you eligible for free meals?
Did you receive free meals?

So the first question can be gamed by parents because of pandemic free meals. But the second? That would require outright lying.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 06:35     Subject: Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:Is living in public housing and reciving certain means tested welfare benefits counted in assessing a child’s SEN status.

Surely you can verify if a kids family is receiving SNAP and that’s a more concrete indicator of poverty than receiving free school meals which rich kids can get too.


This is entirely logical and a great idea.

However, it’s not what the TJ admissions office is using. They are using ONLY the meals questions for the economically disadvantaged experience factor.

If you do not believe me, please call or email them yourself. Or ask your school board member to ask them for you.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 06:30     Subject: Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Is living in public housing and reciving certain means tested welfare benefits counted in assessing a child’s SEN status.

Surely you can verify if a kids family is receiving SNAP and that’s a more concrete indicator of poverty than receiving free school meals which rich kids can get too.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 03:32     Subject: Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s the lawsuit I’d like to see - all named members of the Coalition enjoined from being anywhere within 500 feet of TJ’s footprint. They’ve already engaged in enough violence against this class purporting that they don’t belong - their presence in and around the building endangers any student who doesn’t fit their narrative.

Parent of a current TJ kid? Too bad - should have thought of that before you relentlessly attacked the Class of 2025 to further your sickening agenda.


Where do I sign? These people are destroying the school.


These people destroyed the school when their kids became a majority.


PP. hard disagree. Let’s not conflate the Coalition folks with Asians as a whole. They claim to represent the entirety of that demographic but they do not. And no one serious who is pro-reform believes that Asians destroyed the school.


And specifically it's a tiny contingent of parents who are exploiting the situation for their own gains. NOT because they have students' best interests at heart.


I don't agree with them but how are they exploiting?



They are spinning up this whole issue in conservative news to drive “education” as a wedge issue for the GOP.

Go scroll through Asra’s Twitter feed. Clearly, she’s just trying to promote herself to land more spots on FoxNews and to push GOP candidates.

She’s a Trumphumper with Koch Bro friends at PDE.



And you don't like the GOP and conservatives. Understood. She is entitled to her political beliefs. I completely disagree with her political beliefs and her general methods. However, as parents, we have no choice but to stand up to the insane jealousy-driven hate toward our kids.


And you’re totally delusional.

This has nothing to do with Asian kids. Just the complete lack of diversity - in many aspects. Racial, economic, ELL, geographic, etc.


Please give it a rest. You are the ones destroying the school. On diversity, you do realize there are over 3billion people in India and China. We are as diverse as can be. Asians in FCPS speak many different languages, have different religions, backgrounds, income levels, and immigrant status. Maybe you should spend time with people who don't look like you to truly understand.


TJ is definitely the most diverse high school in this area. Those people refusing to see this it ruining this wonderful school. Hopefully the supreme court will stop them.


Any high-school that is 70% one demographic group is one of the least diverse in the county.


Yea, if you lump Indians, Vietnamese, Koreans, and Chinese together and call them the same demographic group.


Nice try but not buying it