Anonymous
02/08/2022 09:47
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
I would invite you to think for a moment: why might it be that the same people getting married very young are also not divorcing. Give me some explanations, and try to think beyond your personal biases.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 09:15
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:The notion that waiting to marry and have children makes you more financial secure and leads to more promotions at work is pure fiction. Dual incomes allow you to buy a home, and more home at that, much sooner. A married 28 y/o couple over the last few years has watched their house explode in value. While unwed yuppies flush money down the drain on rent. Most young adults mature very quickly when the first kid arrives; waiting stunts that maturation. And most employers reward married with kids colleagues, as it signals you’re stable and trustworthy, and married with kids (and grandkids) elder bosses connect with you. The unmarried and childless just seem flighty, aimless and frankly weird.
There have been studies and you're basically guaranteed middle class status if you: graduate high school, wait until you're married to have kids.
I absolutely would not have been able to afford a home if I had kids first. Daycare is 2k a month PER KID.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 09:13
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion:
anti brunch granny is not completely wrong.
Just sayin’.
New research says anti-brunch granny is quite astute: "Research shows that marrying young without ever having lived together with a partner makes for some of the lowest divorce rates." - WSJ
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1490909518208847875
I'm afraid I missed the anti-brunch rant in there. Could you quote that specific part?
TIA
Granny said brunch is full of 20- and 30-something women both single and those “shacking up” with men i.e. living together without proposal or wedding. Granny said these women and men are old enough to be married and having children and should not be wasting weekends away getting drunk at breakfast. Dozens of comments attacked granny, insisting that waiting until “financially secure” 30s for marriage and kids was more mature and responsible and led to happier marriages. The research in The Journal indicates granny is spot on.
You forgot the best part: Granny is in her 40’s
Anonymous
02/08/2022 09:05
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:The notion that waiting to marry and have children makes you more financial secure and leads to more promotions at work is pure fiction. Dual incomes allow you to buy a home, and more home at that, much sooner. A married 28 y/o couple over the last few years has watched their house explode in value. While unwed yuppies flush money down the drain on rent. Most young adults mature very quickly when the first kid arrives; waiting stunts that maturation. And most employers reward married with kids colleagues, as it signals you’re stable and trustworthy, and married with kids (and grandkids) elder bosses connect with you. The unmarried and childless just seem flighty, aimless and frankly weird.
Yes, you can get ahead financially with a two-income home, but that goes right out the window once you have kids. Usually a huge chunk of one earner's paycheck has to go toward daycare, or the person drops out of the workforce to care for children. This disproportionately affects women, who wind up with less education, fewer career options, and lifetime earnings much less than their spouses.
Since the entire premise of the Granny's rantings is for women to marry young and have more than 1-2 children, she is unquestionably advocating for women to remain at an economic and educational disadvantage to their husbands.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 08:48
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
The notion that waiting to marry and have children makes you more financial secure and leads to more promotions at work is pure fiction. Dual incomes allow you to buy a home, and more home at that, much sooner. A married 28 y/o couple over the last few years has watched their house explode in value. While unwed yuppies flush money down the drain on rent. Most young adults mature very quickly when the first kid arrives; waiting stunts that maturation. And most employers reward married with kids colleagues, as it signals you’re stable and trustworthy, and married with kids (and grandkids) elder bosses connect with you. The unmarried and childless just seem flighty, aimless and frankly weird.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 08:33
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion:
anti brunch granny is not completely wrong.
Just sayin’.
New research says anti-brunch granny is quite astute: "Research shows that marrying young without ever having lived together with a partner makes for some of the lowest divorce rates." - WSJ
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1490909518208847875
I'm afraid I missed the anti-brunch rant in there. Could you quote that specific part?
TIA
Granny said brunch is full of 20- and 30-something women both single and those “shacking up” with men i.e. living together without proposal or wedding. Granny said these women and men are old enough to be married and having children and should not be wasting weekends away getting drunk at breakfast. Dozens of comments attacked granny, insisting that waiting until “financially secure” 30s for marriage and kids was more mature and responsible and led to happier marriages. The research in The Journal indicates granny is spot on.
Shocking!!! those who follow the SATC model wind up being lonely spinsters?!?!? Who knew?
Anonymous
02/08/2022 08:07
Subject: Re:Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
From the WSJ article:
For the approximately 70% of women in our sample who cohabited with one or more partners prior to marriage, the conventional wisdom held. For them, waiting until around 30 was linked to a lower risk of divorce.
From the linked IFS article: Surprisingly, religious 20-somethings who marry directly without cohabiting appear to have the lowest divorce rates.
So, if you're a religious woman, getting married without living together first is your best strategy for not getting divorced. For others, waiting is better.
This article is coming from the religious Institute for Family Studies, so, not surprising.
For the approximately 70% of women in our sample who cohabited with one or more partners prior to marriage, the conventional wisdom held. For them, waiting until around 30 was linked to a lower risk of divorce.
From the linked IFS article: Surprisingly, religious 20-somethings who marry directly without cohabiting appear to have the lowest divorce rates.
So, if you're a religious woman, getting married without living together first is your best strategy for not getting divorced. For others, waiting is better.
This article is coming from the religious Institute for Family Studies, so, not surprising.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 07:55
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion:
anti brunch granny is not completely wrong.
Just sayin’.
New research says anti-brunch granny is quite astute: "Research shows that marrying young without ever having lived together with a partner makes for some of the lowest divorce rates." - WSJ
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1490909518208847875
I'm afraid I missed the anti-brunch rant in there. Could you quote that specific part?
TIA
Granny said brunch is full of 20- and 30-something women both single and those “shacking up” with men i.e. living together without proposal or wedding. Granny said these women and men are old enough to be married and having children and should not be wasting weekends away getting drunk at breakfast. Dozens of comments attacked granny, insisting that waiting until “financially secure” 30s for marriage and kids was more mature and responsible and led to happier marriages. The research in The Journal indicates granny is spot on.
Way to skip this last part: Is it less experience breaking up, fewer previous partners for comparison, a greater sense that marriage is a different relationship status, or the fact that such women are disproportionately religious?
Anonymous
02/08/2022 07:53
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What does having an abortion have to do with it?
Abortions weaken the uterus. It is similar to the effect of a miscarriage.
This is a joke, right? Pls tell me it's a joke???!!!
DP. No, I am absolutely convinced there is someone posting who thinks an abortion or miscarriage is harder on the uterus than carrying to term and going through labor.
People aren't rational when driven by just ideology.
I give it some benefit of doubt. I think it's not 100% ideology but a holdover from the times when abortions were really more dangerous and/or fertility was less understood. I did not grow up in US, so different laws, but in my mom's generation pretty much everyone knew a woman who couldn't have children supposedly because of an abortion.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 07:45
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion:
anti brunch granny is not completely wrong.
Just sayin’.
New research says anti-brunch granny is quite astute: "Research shows that marrying young without ever having lived together with a partner makes for some of the lowest divorce rates." - WSJ
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1490909518208847875
I'm afraid I missed the anti-brunch rant in there. Could you quote that specific part?
TIA
Granny said brunch is full of 20- and 30-something women both single and those “shacking up” with men i.e. living together without proposal or wedding. Granny said these women and men are old enough to be married and having children and should not be wasting weekends away getting drunk at breakfast. Dozens of comments attacked granny, insisting that waiting until “financially secure” 30s for marriage and kids was more mature and responsible and led to happier marriages. The research in The Journal indicates granny is spot on.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 06:29
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What does having an abortion have to do with it?
Abortions weaken the uterus. It is similar to the effect of a miscarriage.
This is a joke, right? Pls tell me it's a joke???!!!
Not PP and I’m pro peoole waiting to marry and have kids but any curretage will increase your odds of placenta previa slightly. Not as much as a c-section will, though. I don’t think it increases your risk for much of anything else.
Is there someone in the thread who thinks curettage is the only means of abortion, or was anti-brunch granny just being sloppy in the reasoning process?
Anonymous
02/08/2022 06:26
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
I'm afraid I missed the anti-brunch rant in there. Could you quote that specific part?
TIA
Anonymous
02/08/2022 06:23
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
- That’s about age of marriage and divorce rates when you cohabitate, not age of having kids and how happy kids make you
- I had no idea there is such a thing as “The National Marriage Project.” You learn a new thing every day.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 06:11
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What does having an abortion have to do with it?
Abortions weaken the uterus. It is similar to the effect of a miscarriage.
This is a joke, right? Pls tell me it's a joke???!!!
Not PP and I’m pro peoole waiting to marry and have kids but any curretage will increase your odds of placenta previa slightly. Not as much as a c-section will, though. I don’t think it increases your risk for much of anything else.
NP. I sort of forgot about that. Maybe the PPP isn’t crazy. Of course the abortion pill won’t do that, though, nor will a miscarriage that doesn’t involve a D and C.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 00:54
Subject: Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What does having an abortion have to do with it?
Abortions weaken the uterus. It is similar to the effect of a miscarriage.
This is a joke, right? Pls tell me it's a joke???!!!
Not PP and I’m pro peoole waiting to marry and have kids but any curretage will increase your odds of placenta previa slightly. Not as much as a c-section will, though. I don’t think it increases your risk for much of anything else.