Anonymous wrote:I think the husband and his Emory-loving friends and family have discovered this thread...

LOL this is OP —if I catch my husband responding on here that would be hilarious. Maybe I will be walking quietly out of the kitchen and see him typing, “DH has a right to want to send him to the top school…” and when he realizes I am there he will slap shut the laptop.

I am actually laughing for real thinking about it. Can you imagine?!?

Anonymous wrote:I think the husband and his Emory-loving friends and family have discovered this thread...

That would be SOOOOOOO funny

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Anonymous wrote:I went to school in Boston (guess where?), and I'd literally never heard of Emory. I assumed it was a third-rate college buried somewhere in the South. Emory never even entered my consciousness or my kids' consciousness when they were applying to colleges. I'd vote for Tufts over Emory, damn the ratings! Who cares? Tufts is far better known in the Northeast. Emory? What?

I'm guessing BU?

Lol, I was thinking BC, BC grads have it out for Emory for some reason.

Anonymous wrote:I went to school in Boston (guess where?), and I'd literally never heard of Emory. I assumed it was a third-rate college buried somewhere in the South. Emory never even entered my consciousness or my kids' consciousness when they were applying to colleges. I'd vote for Tufts over Emory, damn the ratings! Who cares? Tufts is far better known in the Northeast. Emory? What?

I'm guessing BU?

I think the husband and his Emory-loving friends and family have discovered this thread...

Hi, I mentioned that DS is “into writing” as to why he connected with the theater-type kids without being a theater kid himself. That’s not what he intends to major in, he just enjoys it a great deal. I’m sorry, that line was misleading.

He hasn’t decided what he wants to major in yet—he has a broad range of interests in the humanities including languages (he speaks three), but he wants to explore before deciding what to major in.

I could certainly see how one might consider him spoiled. Without doubt he has grown up with a certain level of privilege and we are all very lucky and blessed to have the opportunities and options that we all do, not just him. I actually think that is part of the reason his money-obsessed roommate bothers him so much. DS is kind of sensitive (he has been that way since a little kid) and he does realize he is privileged, while his roommate is certain he is entitled to entry into the business school and is entitled to his spot among the Zuckerbergs and Musks. (We’ve met the kid and he is very animated about his love for money).

We discussed with DS how he is going to run into these people all throughout his life, and hopefully they will make some contribution other than to their own wallets and that they too can help society if they so choose —so not to just discount them immediately. Bringing up the wacky plumbing cousin again, after he made so much money, he started a small grant-making foundation to run in his retirement where he gives grants for work with the chronically ill because his mother has a chronic illness and her life has not been easy.

Basically I am trying to help him keep his mind open because I feel jumping to conclusions about someone’s character or motivation prevents people from having potentially meaningful relationships with others that might prove to be unexpectedly wonderful. Some people present themselves in a certain way that may be off-putting but it doesn’t mean there isn’t something deeper and it is worth at least giving people a chance, that’s my view, anyway.

Overall, I still feel like he needs to be able to make this decision because that also increases his sense of responsibility. If DH makes the final decision, and DS doesn’t integrate well in the end, then he can blame his experience on DH. He wouldn’t say that aloud to my DH but he might think it. If he gets in to Tufts and decides to go, if he is not happy there either then the responsibility is all his. If he goes and he is happy, he still gets to assume responsibility for his own happiness and that’s important too. This is one of the arguments that actually resonated with DH and why he should
back off and let him try. And again it’s not just about responsibility for negative things, but giving him the opportunity to feel responsible for positive decisions in his life too.

I admit it all sounds a bit snowflake-y even to my own family who were very hands off (I was a farm kid). Even though I think we turned out relatively OK, there were times my sister and I really wished our parents had been there more to help us think through things and to support us. We had no one really around to act as a sounding board and they were of the mind that kids should figure out EVERYTHING themselves. My sister and I said we would not be those parents. I love my parents but they are a different breed of tough parenting!

Anonymous wrote:If DS and his mom are this rabid about "not Emory" I would let the kid transfer and pay for it. They can have all the snowy vibes they want. After graduation it's up to ds to get a job and support himself. Gravy train is over.

This! DH shouldn't be forced to pay for a bad decision.

Anonymous wrote:There's no discernible ranking difference between Emory or Tufts. In fact, Tufts is more respected academically. Emory is boosted greatly due to its Coke-funded endowment.

You guys truly are liars. You don't even believe this. PP posted the peer reputation scores for both schools earlier in the thread.

There's no discernible ranking difference between Emory or Tufts. In fact, Tufts is more respected academically. Emory is boosted greatly due to its Coke-funded endowment.

If DS and his mom are this rabid about "not Emory" I would let the kid transfer and pay for it. They can have all the snowy vibes they want. After graduation it's up to ds to get a job and support himself. Gravy train is over.

Anonymous wrote:Another...
Emory#1
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theadroitjournal.org/2019/04/18/best-creative-writing-colleges/amp/

I gave you hard data, and you keep coming back with the OPINIONS of random bloggers. Even if it were possible to definitively say Emory is #1, that wouldn't mean someone with talent couldn't learn to write elsewhere. Colleen Hoover is currently #1 AND #2 AND #5 on the NYT best seller list--she went to Texas A+M and majored in commerce.

The most recent Pulitzer Prize winners for fiction went to Dartmouth, Harvard, U Illinois, Brown, Berkeley, Bowdoin, Bennington, Arizona State, Penn, UMass, Bates, Rutgers, U Tennessee (dropped out), etc. Some of them are on your lists, and some are not.

And journalism is writing, The list I posted is relevant to the conversation.

Another...
Emory#1
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theadroitjournal.org/2019/04/18/best-creative-writing-colleges/amp/

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Anonymous wrote:OP your DS is spoiled and your enabling him. You're still n is a writer. Well Emory's creative writing program is ranked top 5 in the nation.
https://blog.prepscholar.com/best-creative-writing-colleges-majors-and-programs

Your son is exactly where he needs to be and doesn't even recognize it because he hasn't given Emory a chance. He is spoiled.

Seriously? You're going to judge a kid as spoiled based on a list created by one blogger based on no hard data? Holy moly.

Here's another...
Emory #1
https://thecollegepost.com/best-colleges-for-writers/

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Anonymous wrote:Taking your son out of Emory to go to a lesser school with a lesser program sounds crazy. If you son wants to major in writing then the quality of the program and it's alumni matters a ton for getting a job olin the field.

Based on what other than rankings that use inapt criteria and weighting?

What do you mean?

Give us details about why you think a talented writer is not going to be able to blossom at Tufts. Here's a list of where the Washington Post's journalists went to college. There are many, many places where a talented writer can hone their craft.....

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/journalism/

You must be senile too. OPs DS is a writer. I post the best creative writing programs in the country. There's nothing else to it. It's quite obvious OP nor her son did any research. But DH has DS best interest clearly. DS will leave Emory for "vibes" that he's not even sure about even though he current school has arguably the best program in the nation.

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Anonymous wrote:Taking your son out of Emory to go to a lesser school with a lesser program sounds crazy. If you son wants to major in writing then the quality of the program and it's alumni matters a ton for getting a job olin the field.

Based on what other than rankings that use inapt criteria and weighting?

What do you mean?

Give us details about why you think a talented writer is not going to be able to blossom at Tufts. Here's a list of where the Washington Post's journalists went to college. There are many, many places where a talented writer can hone their craft.....

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/journalism/