Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When they’re killing each other it’s arguably beneficial to society. When they kill productive people, it will eventually poison another generation of people against them. I’m sure the doc’s killing will cause some of his friends to become racist.
Yeah, well, statistics don't lie, and the homicide statistics by race are pretty clear -- when 13 percent of the population is committing more than half of all murders in this country, we need to be able to talk about the cultural problems in that community. But you're not allowed to do that (as will be clear when this post gets deleted by the moderator, since any mention of crime statistics by race gets deleted).
IT'S POVERTY. NOT RACE. And the god damn reason most poor people are Black is because white people made it that way. FIX POVERTY.
It wasn't poverty that killed Rakesh Patel. It was bored, depraved youths (or possibly adults, we'll find out soon enough).
These cars are not being stolen to be sold to be chopped up and sold for parts and some back door way to settle racial disparities - they are being stolen so juveniles can go on joy rides.
It sounds like the parents need to do a better job of monitoring and raising their children.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When they’re killing each other it’s arguably beneficial to society. When they kill productive people, it will eventually poison another generation of people against them. I’m sure the doc’s killing will cause some of his friends to become racist.
Yeah, well, statistics don't lie, and the homicide statistics by race are pretty clear -- when 13 percent of the population is committing more than half of all murders in this country, we need to be able to talk about the cultural problems in that community. But you're not allowed to do that (as will be clear when this post gets deleted by the moderator, since any mention of crime statistics by race gets deleted).
IT'S POVERTY. NOT RACE. And the god damn reason most poor people are Black is because white people made it that way. FIX POVERTY.
It wasn't poverty that killed Rakesh Patel. It was bored, depraved youths (or possibly adults, we'll find out soon enough).
These cars are not being stolen to be sold to be chopped up and sold for parts and some back door way to settle racial disparities - they are being stolen so juveniles can go on joy rides.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s kids or young adults who were raised with no morals. Lot’s of people in poverty do not commit crimes. Bad parenting is to blame.
This completely. Not all poor people are out there committing crimes. Many have their noses to the grindstone trying to raise families with good values. But there are a lot of single parent households in DC, and kids being born to parents who probably aren't fit to be parents. We need to be honest about this and actually have some punitive measure for parents too if their kids are acting out.
Once again, shifting blame to single Black mothers. This Eurocentric patriarchal model of family is pushed by white men on BIPOC. Just because your whole life you have enjoyed the privileges of your whiteness does not make your way the right way.
No, Black mothers are not the most to blame. It is teen culture, more specifically, that is to blame.
What is it exactly, and be specific, do you mean by “teen culture”? This is thinly veiled racism and shame on you. Systemic racism and hundreds of years of oppression built this culture. No other culture on earth has had to deal with this kind of oppression in modern times and still gets blamed for the outcomes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We don’t need to talk about “cultural problems” in a community. We need to talk about public policies rooted in systemic racism that perpetuate cyclical poverty and feelings of hopelessness and indignity.
If UC and UMC white people are looking to blame someone, look in a mirror…
This is the prevailing sentiment. It’s become engrained in the next generation. Everything is caused by system racism and racist structures. In no way are people responsible for their own violent actions because it’s all forces out of their own control. Therefore the solution are endless studies of the root causes of poverty (which are pretty clear already), a lot of yelling, spending millions on programs over the decades that obviously show minimal efficacy, blaming gentrifiers, and essentially deflecting from ever truly solving anything because time simply moves on.
The solutions sort of present themselves. One is that pro development polices in DC have led to tons of new construction that has pushed out a lot of criminal element. Or displaced people based on how you view the city. That’s changed somewhat with a renewed focus on affordable housing and and the focus of housing people n subsidized housing in perpetuity to help ingrain generations of the same family in urban centers. For example, religious protestors were obsessed with Res 13. Now it’s all ultra low income housing and will be a beehive of crime.
+1
We have tons of bleeding heart liberals who choose to live in the city. They get mugged and then blame themselves for being the perpetrators of systemic racism. Some abscond for the suburbs, some tough it out. Then we have a massive low income population response for 98% of the crime. And we have a crime loving city council who won’t consider tough policing or incarceration. Wash rinse repeat.
The real solution if you live in DC is to stay in upper NW or in one of the richer neighborhood or better blocks close in to the capitol and hope you don’t get attacked or at the very least that your rims get stolen. It’s the truth. I honestly have lived here so long, I’ve seen every argument about all this. I’ve seen crime. Someone was stabbed on my block and I saw the blood run down the side walk and then I saw the police catch the suspect. So really it’s nothing new. I just worry the next generation is more accepting of it because they’re so socially conscious. I hope they actually understand that people can be violent and it can’t be all restorative justice and excuses or whatever.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s kids or young adults who were raised with no morals. Lot’s of people in poverty do not commit crimes. Bad parenting is to blame.
This completely. Not all poor people are out there committing crimes. Many have their noses to the grindstone trying to raise families with good values. But there are a lot of single parent households in DC, and kids being born to parents who probably aren't fit to be parents. We need to be honest about this and actually have some punitive measure for parents too if their kids are acting out.
Once again, shifting blame to single Black mothers. This Eurocentric patriarchal model of family is pushed by white men on BIPOC. Just because your whole life you have enjoyed the privileges of your whiteness does not make your way the right way.
No, Black mothers are not the most to blame. It is teen culture, more specifically, that is to blame.
What is it exactly, and be specific, do you mean by “teen culture”? This is thinly veiled racism and shame on you. Systemic racism and hundreds of years of oppression built this culture. No other culture on earth has had to deal with this kind of oppression in modern times and still gets blamed for the outcomes.
No, fatherless homes and teen mothers on drugs built this culture.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When they’re killing each other it’s arguably beneficial to society. When they kill productive people, it will eventually poison another generation of people against them. I’m sure the doc’s killing will cause some of his friends to become racist.
Yeah, well, statistics don't lie, and the homicide statistics by race are pretty clear -- when 13 percent of the population is committing more than half of all murders in this country, we need to be able to talk about the cultural problems in that community. But you're not allowed to do that (as will be clear when this post gets deleted by the moderator, since any mention of crime statistics by race gets deleted).
IT'S POVERTY. NOT RACE. And the god damn reason most poor people are Black is because white people made it that way. FIX POVERTY.
It wasn't poverty that killed Rakesh Patel. It was bored, depraved youths (or possibly adults, we'll find out soon enough).
Anonymous wrote: I feel like we are living through a revival of the Marion Barry 1980s and 90s with a DC Government that is completely dysfunctional with respect to crime, such that businesses and middle class residents---who returned to the city during 1996 through 2018---will again retreat to safer environs. All these ridiculous progressives on the DC Council have no idea what DC was like then but I remember. The area around the Verizon Center was a pedestrian mall filled with nothing but druggies, their dealers, and muggers. H Street and 14th Street were still largely boarded up from the 1967 riots. On Capitol Hill, it wasn't safe to go north of E Street or east of Lincoln Park. Forget about being safe in Shaw, or the Eckington/Union Market area. It took 20 years for Marion Barry to drive the city so far into dysfunction that it had to be taken over by a Control Board. So we probably have 15 more years of this to go, unfortunately.
Anonymous wrote: I feel like we are living through a revival of the Marion Barry 1980s and 90s with a DC Government that is completely dysfunctional with respect to crime, such that businesses and middle class residents---who returned to the city during 1996 through 2018---will again retreat to safer environs. All these ridiculous progressives on the DC Council have no idea what DC was like then but I remember. The area around the Verizon Center was a pedestrian mall filled with nothing but druggies, their dealers, and muggers. H Street and 14th Street were still largely boarded up from the 1967 riots. On Capitol Hill, it wasn't safe to go north of E Street or east of Lincoln Park. Forget about being safe in Shaw, or the Eckington/Union Market area. It took 20 years for Marion Barry to drive the city so far into dysfunction that it had to be taken over by a Control Board. So we probably have 15 more years of this to go, unfortunately.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:An ICU doctor was just murdered when someone stole his car and ran him over. Prayers to his family.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/doctor-rakesh-patel-killed-by-suspect-driving-his-stolen-car-adams-morgan/2994423/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand
Lock them up. Scare the other criminal kids. They're not scared now. But they should be.
It sounds like you are unfamiliar with criminal treatment of juveniles in DC.
DC takes a services approach to juveniles and applies the Youth Act up to age 25, soon to be age 26.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/second-chance-law-for-young-criminals-puts-violent-offenders-back-on-dc-streets/2016/12/02/fcb56c74-8bc1-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html
I'm familiar. I'm saying it needs to change. The kids aren't scared now. And they are killing people while "joyriding".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:An ICU doctor was just murdered when someone stole his car and ran him over. Prayers to his family.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/doctor-rakesh-patel-killed-by-suspect-driving-his-stolen-car-adams-morgan/2994423/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand
Lock them up. Scare the other criminal kids. They're not scared now. But they should be.
It sounds like you are unfamiliar with criminal treatment of juveniles in DC.
DC takes a services approach to juveniles and applies the Youth Act up to age 25, soon to be age 26.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/second-chance-law-for-young-criminals-puts-violent-offenders-back-on-dc-streets/2016/12/02/fcb56c74-8bc1-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:An ICU doctor was just murdered when someone stole his car and ran him over. Prayers to his family.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/doctor-rakesh-patel-killed-by-suspect-driving-his-stolen-car-adams-morgan/2994423/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand
Lock them up. Scare the other criminal kids. They're not scared now. But they should be.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s kids or young adults who were raised with no morals. Lot’s of people in poverty do not commit crimes. Bad parenting is to blame.
This completely. Not all poor people are out there committing crimes. Many have their noses to the grindstone trying to raise families with good values. But there are a lot of single parent households in DC, and kids being born to parents who probably aren't fit to be parents. We need to be honest about this and actually have some punitive measure for parents too if their kids are acting out.
Once again, shifting blame to single Black mothers. This Eurocentric patriarchal model of family is pushed by white men on BIPOC. Just because your whole life you have enjoyed the privileges of your whiteness does not make your way the right way.
No, Black mothers are not the most to blame. It is teen culture, more specifically, that is to blame.
What is it exactly, and be specific, do you mean by “teen culture”? This is thinly veiled racism and shame on you. Systemic racism and hundreds of years of oppression built this culture. No other culture on earth has had to deal with this kind of oppression in modern times and still gets blamed for the outcomes.