Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 07:49     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This came up in another thread about CRT.

If you are a Youngkin supporter, do you think that racism exists in any form in VA today?

Overt racism?
Racial biases?
Systemic racism?



Sure it does. All of the above. So what is your point. CRT says that everything is racism or the result of that. That's just false. Racism can exist and not be the cause of all of the wrongs in the world.


So racism is the cause of some of the wrongs though, right?

Do you think we should try to prevent those wrongs?


Sure. We should try to do so. Not sure I get your point.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 07:31     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Listen, all of life can't be about racism. I don't vote anymore in this corrupt system of rich crybabies catering to megacorporations, but if I did vote there would be about 10 issues of major concern to me. Racism is one of them. But then you tell me my taxes as a UMC hardworking person are going up by $25k (this is the amount Trump personally cut my taxes a few years ago), asians get the short end of the stick in pretty much any previously meritocracy-based system, we're not going to prosecute crimes or enforce sentences for violent offenders, etc. etc. If you're making me choose between my family's financial wellbeing, education, and safety versus some abstract concept of "ending racism," ending racism is losing every time. Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 07:24     Subject: Re:Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there racism in Virginia? Do white bubble umc neighborhoods in nova exist? From Arlington to the yeehaw southern parts, wherever white folks are, there are racists.


And wherever Black folks are, or Hispanics, or Asians....

I honestly think you only feel pleasure when wallowing in discussions of racism 24/7. You'll never get what you're looking for, though.


It would be a quick conversation if you agreed it existed and we should do something to address it.

It’s going to take a long time if people want to pretend it doesn’t exist in a meaningful way. Or if they are perfectly fine with status quo.


DP. And how do you propose "addressing it"? Telling people they're intrinsically racist? No thanks.



That is an excellent conversation we should have. Are we all agreeing now that racism is an issue in VA and needs to be addressed?


Lots of people have agreed that it is an issue in every state and have asked how you would like to address it, but you have not responded. What are your ideas for effective ways to address it?


That is a much deeper discussion.

Just wanted to know if Youngkin voters would acknowledge that racism is an issue in VA. And if they think it should be addressed in some way (not committing to specific changes).



Plenty of people have replied to those two questions. Then you continue to follow up with more questions.

If you think it’s a much deeper conversation for YOU, why don’t you think it’s a much deeper conversation for other people? If you continue to ask questions on a DISCUSSION board, do you think it is unreasonable for questions to be asked of you? Why?

If you want a poll of some sort, create one and link it. 2 questions. Easy.



I like hearing from multiple people - there isn’t just one answer that represents all Youngkin voters. Every has their own opinion.

And I’m asking clarifying questions related to the OP.

What are the problems with race that you see in VA?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 07:17     Subject: Re:Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there racism in Virginia? Do white bubble umc neighborhoods in nova exist? From Arlington to the yeehaw southern parts, wherever white folks are, there are racists.


And wherever Black folks are, or Hispanics, or Asians....

I honestly think you only feel pleasure when wallowing in discussions of racism 24/7. You'll never get what you're looking for, though.


It would be a quick conversation if you agreed it existed and we should do something to address it.

It’s going to take a long time if people want to pretend it doesn’t exist in a meaningful way. Or if they are perfectly fine with status quo.


DP. And how do you propose "addressing it"? Telling people they're intrinsically racist? No thanks.



That is an excellent conversation we should have. Are we all agreeing now that racism is an issue in VA and needs to be addressed?


Lots of people have agreed that it is an issue in every state and have asked how you would like to address it, but you have not responded. What are your ideas for effective ways to address it?


That is a much deeper discussion.

Just wanted to know if Youngkin voters would acknowledge that racism is an issue in VA. And if they think it should be addressed in some way (not committing to specific changes).



Plenty of people have replied to those two questions. Then you continue to follow up with more questions.

If you think it’s a much deeper conversation for YOU, why don’t you think it’s a much deeper conversation for other people? If you continue to ask questions on a DISCUSSION board, do you think it is unreasonable for questions to be asked of you? Why?

If you want a poll of some sort, create one and link it. 2 questions. Easy.

Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 06:59     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This came up in another thread about CRT.

If you are a Youngkin supporter, do you think that racism exists in any form in VA today?

Overt racism?
Racial biases?
Systemic racism?



Sure it does. All of the above. So what is your point. CRT says that everything is racism or the result of that. That's just false. Racism can exist and not be the cause of all of the wrongs in the world.


So racism is the cause of some of the wrongs though, right?

Do you think we should try to prevent those wrongs?


Do you think this is clever?

I am happy to say that I view racial discrimination as wrong, morally and as a matter of policy... with no qualifiers or exceptions whatsoever.

Can you agree to that?



Yes. Are you referring to TJ?

Should we move to eliminate racial discrimination?

And I’m just asking for opinions. That’s all.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 06:45     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This came up in another thread about CRT.

If you are a Youngkin supporter, do you think that racism exists in any form in VA today?

Overt racism?
Racial biases?
Systemic racism?



Sure it does. All of the above. So what is your point. CRT says that everything is racism or the result of that. That's just false. Racism can exist and not be the cause of all of the wrongs in the world.


So racism is the cause of some of the wrongs though, right?

Do you think we should try to prevent those wrongs?


Do you think this is clever?

I am happy to say that I view racial discrimination as wrong, morally and as a matter of policy... with no qualifiers or exceptions whatsoever.

Can you agree to that?

Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 05:43     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This came up in another thread about CRT.

If you are a Youngkin supporter, do you think that racism exists in any form in VA today?

Overt racism?
Racial biases?
Systemic racism?



Sure it does. All of the above. So what is your point. CRT says that everything is racism or the result of that. That's just false. Racism can exist and not be the cause of all of the wrongs in the world.


So racism is the cause of some of the wrongs though, right?

Do you think we should try to prevent those wrongs?


Like voting Republican? Go away.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 23:56     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This came up in another thread about CRT.

If you are a Youngkin supporter, do you think that racism exists in any form in VA today?

Overt racism?
Racial biases?
Systemic racism?



Sure it does. All of the above. So what is your point. CRT says that everything is racism or the result of that. That's just false. Racism can exist and not be the cause of all of the wrongs in the world.


So racism is the cause of some of the wrongs though, right?

Do you think we should try to prevent those wrongs?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 23:37     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:This came up in another thread about CRT.

If you are a Youngkin supporter, do you think that racism exists in any form in VA today?

Overt racism?
Racial biases?
Systemic racism?



Sure it does. All of the above. So what is your point. CRT says that everything is racism or the result of that. That's just false. Racism can exist and not be the cause of all of the wrongs in the world.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 23:37     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should ignore the OP unless/until she comes up with her own solutions to racism in the US. She has offered no solutions at all, just demands from others. Put up or shut up, OP.


"Demands"? I'm just asking for people's opinions. LOL.

Specifically, do Youngkin voters:
(1) acknowledge that racism is an issue in VA
(2) think it should be addressed in some way (not committing to specific changes)

It's not a trick question.



I voted for Yougkin but he is the first Republican for whom I voted.

(1) racism is a big issue in Virginia, specifically Arlington.
(2) racism is being addressed and should continue to be addressed

I am not sure what your "poll" will do about racism in Virginia, but have at it.


So no need to do anything differently?


People have repeatedly acknowledged that racism is a problem in Virginia, every state in the US, and every country in the world. And everyone thinks it is bad and would like it to change.

What are the actions that would address it in some way? People would like to do something to effect change, but you’re not giving them anything to work with here, OP.


Go start a new thread and I’ll join you.


I guess I don’t get what you were trying to get people to say when they had said over and over again that they acknowledged that racism exists everywhere in the world, including Virginia, and that racism certainly should end. What else were you looking for people to say, especially when you had no suggestions for how to end racism?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 23:18     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

The question was “do you think racism exists in VA today”?

Not, “how many racist things can you say in a single post”?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 23:14     Subject: Re:Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a white Youngkin supporter I will admit with absolute certainty there is strong racism in the area. Look no further than TJ and the FFX school board where minorities openly hate Asians and have made sure they reduce the percentage of Asians by redefining admittance to get the numbers up for the "under privileged'" who didn't work hard. In text messages obtained via FOI the one board member even "LOL'd" about how the new policy was racist towards Asians.

Oh wait, this doesn't fit the media narrative.


Asians and white people can't be considered disadvantaged ethnic groups. Get that in your heads people of VA. Asians and whites are privileged.


I'll tell that to my parents who clung to a raft for 7 days fleeing Vietnam.


Good for,you. The argument is only made for the black community. Latino, Brown, Asian…you guys are on your own…


And the Latino, Brown, and Asian community are doing just fine on their own. They work hard to get what they want as do Americans from Africa who want nothing to do with American blacks.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 23:09     Subject: Re:Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a white Youngkin supporter I will admit with absolute certainty there is strong racism in the area. Look no further than TJ and the FFX school board where minorities openly hate Asians and have made sure they reduce the percentage of Asians by redefining admittance to get the numbers up for the "under privileged'" who didn't work hard. In text messages obtained via FOI the one board member even "LOL'd" about how the new policy was racist towards Asians.

Oh wait, this doesn't fit the media narrative.


Asians and white people can't be considered disadvantaged ethnic groups. Get that in your heads people of VA. Asians and whites are privileged.


I'll tell that to my parents who clung to a raft for 7 days fleeing Vietnam.


Good for,you. The argument is only made for the black community. Latino, Brown, Asian…you guys are on your own…


Well, in reality blacks are on their own too, but they are so predictable in how they vote, the Dems spread political love to them to keep their vote. Sheep. Mere sheep. Keep them dependent on govt. assistance and ensure they keep voting the same way as always. Sad.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 21:59     Subject: Re:Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a white Youngkin supporter I will admit with absolute certainty there is strong racism in the area. Look no further than TJ and the FFX school board where minorities openly hate Asians and have made sure they reduce the percentage of Asians by redefining admittance to get the numbers up for the "under privileged'" who didn't work hard. In text messages obtained via FOI the one board member even "LOL'd" about how the new policy was racist towards Asians.

Oh wait, this doesn't fit the media narrative.


Asians and white people can't be considered disadvantaged ethnic groups. Get that in your heads people of VA. Asians and whites are privileged.


I'll tell that to my parents who clung to a raft for 7 days fleeing Vietnam.


Good for,you. The argument is only made for the black community. Latino, Brown, Asian…you guys are on your own…
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 19:49     Subject: Youngkin supporters - do you think racism still exists in VA today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should ignore the OP unless/until she comes up with her own solutions to racism in the US. She has offered no solutions at all, just demands from others. Put up or shut up, OP.


"Demands"? I'm just asking for people's opinions. LOL.

Specifically, do Youngkin voters:
(1) acknowledge that racism is an issue in VA
(2) think it should be addressed in some way (not committing to specific changes)

It's not a trick question.



I voted for Yougkin but he is the first Republican for whom I voted.

(1) racism is a big issue in Virginia, specifically Arlington.
(2) racism is being addressed and should continue to be addressed

I am not sure what your "poll" will do about racism in Virginia, but have at it.


So no need to do anything differently?


People have repeatedly acknowledged that racism is a problem in Virginia, every state in the US, and every country in the world. And everyone thinks it is bad and would like it to change.

What are the actions that would address it in some way? People would like to do something to effect change, but you’re not giving them anything to work with here, OP.


Go start a new thread and I’ll join you.