Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:59     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thread title is deliberately misleading. None of those Bills would prevent registered voters from voting.

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It would prevent me from voting.

- registered voter



Well incarceration has its limits.


Yes, living in a state with a POS Trumphumper governor and his idiotic supporters does feel like jail.



Perhaps you should leave?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:36     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.


Why didn't you do this all along?


Because she didn’t need it to get a license before she stopped driving.


Is she receiving benefits/disability under a false name.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:35     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

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Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???


Do these theoretical voter fraud criminals have a stack of utility bills from registered voters who aren’t voting?

You don’t need a valid drivers license to adopt a pet. Expired is fine.

And expired license (<1 year expired) works for flights:
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus

And you may not even need a photo ID to fly:
“In the event you arrive at the airport without valid identification, because it is lost or at home, you may still be allowed to fly. The TSA officer may ask you to complete an identity verification process which includes collecting information such as your name, current address, and other personal information to confirm your identity.”




Sure - but you can also use an expired ID to vote. So what's the problem again?



They are proposing to NOT allow expired ID. Did you read the OP?

DP. I am willing to bet not.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:34     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???


Do these theoretical voter fraud criminals have a stack of utility bills from registered voters who aren’t voting?

You don’t need a valid drivers license to adopt a pet. Expired is fine.

And expired license (<1 year expired) works for flights:
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus

And you may not even need a photo ID to fly:
“In the event you arrive at the airport without valid identification, because it is lost or at home, you may still be allowed to fly. The TSA officer may ask you to complete an identity verification process which includes collecting information such as your name, current address, and other personal information to confirm your identity.”




Sure - but you can also use an expired ID to vote. So what's the problem again?



They are proposing to NOT allow expired ID. Did you read the OP?

Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:30     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.


Why didn't you do this all along?


Because she didn’t need it to get a license before she stopped driving.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:29     Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m all for voter ID. Dems forget this, but old folks who don’t drive anymore don’t always renew their licenses. Old folks, particularly the white rural ones, also tend to vote Republican. Make it hard for them to renew their licenses by closing down rural locations and limiting hours, and plow efforts into getting your more urban base to the DMV, and it could be to the Dem’s political advantage.


Dems aren't trying to cheat.

Dems think we should be making it easier for eligible voters to vote rather than adding unnecessary burdens.


Uh, sure. Riiiiight. OK.


Do you have evidence of voter fraud by Democrats that you would like to add to the discussion?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:23     Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m all for voter ID. Dems forget this, but old folks who don’t drive anymore don’t always renew their licenses. Old folks, particularly the white rural ones, also tend to vote Republican. Make it hard for them to renew their licenses by closing down rural locations and limiting hours, and plow efforts into getting your more urban base to the DMV, and it could be to the Dem’s political advantage.


Dems aren't trying to cheat.

Dems think we should be making it easier for eligible voters to vote rather than adding unnecessary burdens.


Uh, sure. Riiiiight. OK.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:07     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???


Duh... do you not know how voting works?

A -- you are checked in. You have to SIGN your name, which is matched to what they have on file.

Then you are given a ballot. You vote. Your vote is recorded, and the fact that YOU voted is recorded. Other ballots under your name are not counted.


https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/09/04/double-trouble-how-states-keep-people-from-voting-twice.aspx
More details.

We can provide generalities, though. In general, the reason it is hard to vote twice in the same state for the same election is that states keep a record of who has voted. The first ballot that is recorded from a given voter gets counted and that precludes them from voting again.

Let’s say someone drops off or otherwise returns an absentee ballot. Once the voter’s information on the outside of the absentee ballot envelope is verified, it is standard practice to mark the voter’s registration file with the fact that that person has voted.

If that person then shows up at the polls, the poll book will show that she or he already voted absentee. If the voter insists on voting in person, a provisional ballot will likely be used, which is put in an envelope with the voter’s information on the outside. After the fact, the data will be reviewed, and only the first-recorded ballot would be counted.

On the flip side, if a person votes in person and then a voted absentee ballot from them later arrives at the election office, the in-person vote would already be recorded and the absentee ballot would be rejected. That voter shouldn’t be surprised to receive a letter from election officials asking why two ballots were cast—even though only one was counted.

Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 12:03     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.


Why didn't you do this all along?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 11:42     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 11:38     Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:I’m all for voter ID. Dems forget this, but old folks who don’t drive anymore don’t always renew their licenses. Old folks, particularly the white rural ones, also tend to vote Republican. Make it hard for them to renew their licenses by closing down rural locations and limiting hours, and plow efforts into getting your more urban base to the DMV, and it could be to the Dem’s political advantage.


Dems aren't trying to cheat.

Dems think we should be making it easier for eligible voters to vote rather than adding unnecessary burdens.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 11:37     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thread title is deliberately misleading. None of those Bills would prevent registered voters from voting.

Post reported.


It would prevent me from voting.

- registered voter



Well incarceration has its limits.


Yes, living in a state with a POS Trumphumper governor and his idiotic supporters does feel like jail.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 11:36     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thread title is deliberately misleading. None of those Bills would prevent registered voters from voting.

Post reported.


It would prevent me from voting.

- registered voter


And anyone else with an expired license.



Such as my MIL, who does not need a valid driver's license, as she doesn't drive anymore, and who hasn't replaced it with an ID card because she is disabled and pretty much housebound.


She can have a mobile notary come to her home and apply for an ID



Does the county offer that service to elderly people?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 11:03     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thread title is deliberately misleading. None of those Bills would prevent registered voters from voting.

Post reported.


It would prevent me from voting.

- registered voter


And anyone else with an expired license.



Such as my MIL, who does not need a valid driver's license, as she doesn't drive anymore, and who hasn't replaced it with an ID card because she is disabled and pretty much housebound.


She can have a mobile notary come to her home and apply for an ID

Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 11:01     Subject: VA is now anti voting State

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thread title is deliberately misleading. None of those Bills would prevent registered voters from voting.

Post reported.


It would prevent me from voting.

- registered voter



Well incarceration has its limits.