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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s fake. Dh has been unemployed for 2 mos despite 600 + applications. If the shortage was so real I think we’d see evidence

What do you think the issue is?

My company has tons of vacancies for white collar jobs (ranging from entry to C suite). We would typically get hundreds of applications, but now we barely get a dozen.

Fwiw, your husband should remove his college degree graduation year and eliminate old experience if he’s 50+ (ageism is real). If he’s younger and still not getting a job after 600 applications, then something is wrong. Get a career coach or recruiter.

Please share some of those job postings then. I’d love to apply.

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I am Asian, this type of thinking is that computer science = useful, English and music = useless. Those kids who majored in computer science end up working for faang for 12 hours a day getting PIPed every few years end up paying $$$ for houses in artists led communities, shelling out 5k for doulas, renting $$$$ in Provincetown or Montauk. So I am not so sure what is useful anymore. 🤣

I'm also Asian-American. When people talk about humanities and arts being "useless", what they really mean is that they aren't obvious paths to lucrative jobs. They conflate high incomes with value to society. I have a high income, but I understand that it doesn't reflect my value to society. Many other high income people I know, especially in finance, say the same.

But it won't stop people calling less-lucrative fields of study "useless". The implication, of course, is that lower income jobs are "useless". And then people wonder where the antiwork movement comes from.

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s fake. Dh has been unemployed for 2 mos despite 600 + applications. If the shortage was so real I think we’d see evidence

What do you think the issue is?

My company has tons of vacancies for white collar jobs (ranging from entry to C suite). We would typically get hundreds of applications, but now we barely get a dozen.

Fwiw, your husband should remove his college degree graduation year and eliminate old experience if he’s 50+ (ageism is real). If he’s younger and still not getting a job after 600 applications, then something is wrong. Get a career coach or recruiter.

I think it’s fake. Dh has been unemployed for 2 mos despite 600 + applications. If the shortage was so real I think we’d see evidence

How is this different from the labor movement?

Anonymous wrote:There is a shortage of workers due to immigration policies and there are more flexible, higher paying jobs that are more appealing. People don’t have to put up with bad jobs anymore.

So open borders benefit the capitalists not the workers?

I have a young friend that is basically in the anti-work movement. They think basically most work is propping up a racist inequitable system of capitalism. They are living in a sort of communal set up where they do a mutual food aid system with donated food, grow or make a lot of things themselves, get things from thrift or buy-nothing groups and then work gig jobs as necessary for cash. They have a college degree from a relatively elite school. It reminds me of the hippie communes but on a different scale.

There is a shortage of workers due to immigration policies and there are more flexible, higher paying jobs that are more appealing. People don’t have to put up with bad jobs anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a little dubious about the existence of a "movement" that's primarily on Reddit. Either way, I don't really have an opinion on if other people work. I suspect most of them will return to work if pay and conditions are good and it's up to employers to convince them to come back.

So how will this change the working conditions then? Especially given employment shortages nationwide?

Here's a start:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/15/in-2020-top-ceos-earned-351-times-more-than-the-typical-worker.html

Anonymous wrote:So this was why I had to wait for a table for 30 minutes last night, and it took 40 minutes to get drinks.

Cry me a river

I’ve notic f a lot of this in my fb feed. F was like manipulation.

Here's one example of why anti work is gaining traction:

Contractor does 300k in business for his employer and was promised 1k in bonus for every 150k in work. Was instead given one pair of socks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/rtqxe3/im_a_skilled_tradesman_who_is_supposed_to_get_a/

I've seen the impact of the anti-work movement throughout the holidays, but no more so than when I recently went to the Clarksburg Outlets. The Nike store had a sign that they were closed on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays.

I assume it's due to an employee shortage, but I can't imagine how much it's costing them in business. Plus, I can't believe they can get away with not being open daily without getting fined by the Outlet.

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Anonymous wrote:So this is why everything is short staffed nowadays?

No, the businesses don't pay. If they can't attract/retain employees - their business model is fundamentally flawed. But for some reason they keep asking about the 'workers'.

It’s time for loser companies to go under and make room for better companies/hiring managers.

+1. This misconception that anyone who wants to is entitled to own a business and underpay their employees needs to die. If your business model isn’t viable and requires exploiting people, your business needs to go under and you need to go get a job. Simple.

+1 I know we love to fetishize small businesses in this country but they are often guilty of underpaying and exploiting people.

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes junior staff are abusive to their team leads. When you agree to work but refuse to work, usually one person is left doing the work of 3 people.

Yeah and that one person doing 3 people work gets rewarded with more work but eventually gets pissed and leave. Then I have to train some 21 year old from scratch.