Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:53
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is old enough to consent to somebody < 4 years older than she is so it is not a sexual assault.
Good lord she absolutely is not. She is no where near age of legal consent in any state …
You don't understand the law.
the law is 16 to have sex with anybody you want.
If you are 14-15 you can have sex with anybody <4 year older than you are.
And actually I think it's insane that a 16 or even an 18 year old can consent to sex with a 50 year old or even a 28 year old, that is way more disturbing than 14 and 17.
18 is a legal adult. I think it's insane that you want the government to tell an adult woman what she can/can't do with her body.
That does not mean they can always consent.
Yes they can.
You clearly don't understand consent.
I clearly do. You clearly do not. An 18 year old can consent to sex with whomever he/she wants.
Are you talking about if they are incapacitated?
What about if there is an imbalance of power?
What if grooming started at 14 and sex started at 18?
What if they are a step parent, like Woody Allen?
What if they are trapped in an abusive marriage and feel they can't leave?
What if they are a prostitute and will be killed if they try to leave, thrown in a river and nobody cares.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:48
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is old enough to consent to somebody < 4 years older than she is so it is not a sexual assault.
Good lord she absolutely is not. She is no where near age of legal consent in any state …
You don't understand the law.
the law is 16 to have sex with anybody you want.
If you are 14-15 you can have sex with anybody <4 year older than you are.
And actually I think it's insane that a 16 or even an 18 year old can consent to sex with a 50 year old or even a 28 year old, that is way more disturbing than 14 and 17.
18 is a legal adult. I think it's insane that you want the government to tell an adult woman what she can/can't do with her body.
That does not mean they can always consent.
Yes they can.
You clearly don't understand consent.
I clearly do. You clearly do not. An 18 year old can consent to sex with whomever he/she wants.
Are you talking about if they are incapacitated?
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:41
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is old enough to consent to somebody < 4 years older than she is so it is not a sexual assault.
Good lord she absolutely is not. She is no where near age of legal consent in any state …
You don't understand the law.
the law is 16 to have sex with anybody you want.
If you are 14-15 you can have sex with anybody <4 year older than you are.
And actually I think it's insane that a 16 or even an 18 year old can consent to sex with a 50 year old or even a 28 year old, that is way more disturbing than 14 and 17.
18 is a legal adult. I think it's insane that you want the government to tell an adult woman what she can/can't do with her body.
That does not mean they can always consent.
Yes they can.
You clearly don't understand consent.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:27
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is old enough to consent to somebody < 4 years older than she is so it is not a sexual assault.
Good lord she absolutely is not. She is no where near age of legal consent in any state …
You don't understand the law.
the law is 16 to have sex with anybody you want.
If you are 14-15 you can have sex with anybody <4 year older than you are.
And actually I think it's insane that a 16 or even an 18 year old can consent to sex with a 50 year old or even a 28 year old, that is way more disturbing than 14 and 17.
18 is a legal adult. I think it's insane that you want the government to tell an adult woman what she can/can't do with her body.
That does not mean they can always consent.
Yes they can.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:25
Subject: Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
I am curious about the posters proclaiming OP's niece to be a naive child incapable of consenting to sex--what age IS a teen capable of adult thought/consent? 18?
And if 18 (or 17, or 16...) are you similarly outraged that Ethan Crumbly, age 15, is being tried as an adult?
And if 18 (or 17, or 16...) are you similarly outraged that Ethan Crumbly, age 15, is being tried as an adult?
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:22
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of assumptions being made on this thread. Laws regarding statutory rape vary from state to state. 14 is generally below the age of consent, regardless of the age of the other party. There are Romeo and Juliet laws in some states, but not in others. If the boy turned 18 during the relationship, that's another level all together.
Well that is a pretty stupid law. A 14 year old having sex with 17 year old is okay. They continue to have sex but one turns 18 and now is arrested and charged with rape? It’s either rape at the beginning or it is not.
Statutory rape laws are not about protecting the girl, herself. They're about protecting the parents' child and attacking the boyfriend.
This thread is strange, the way everyone is using statutory rape laws for a different purpose.
If statutory rape laws were about protecting minors, she could be charged too, in the states where the age of consent is 18.
Yep if it’s VA they are both guilty of rape
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:21
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is old enough to consent to somebody < 4 years older than she is so it is not a sexual assault.
Good lord she absolutely is not. She is no where near age of legal consent in any state …
You don't understand the law.
the law is 16 to have sex with anybody you want.
If you are 14-15 you can have sex with anybody <4 year older than you are.
And actually I think it's insane that a 16 or even an 18 year old can consent to sex with a 50 year old or even a 28 year old, that is way more disturbing than 14 and 17.
18 is a legal adult. I think it's insane that you want the government to tell an adult woman what she can/can't do with her body.
That does not mean they can always consent.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:19
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
I didn't read this whole thread, but as a mom of boys I'd like to know where the hell his parents are in all of this.
No way would I let my 17 year old boy "date" a 14 year old (which he wasn't even doing, sex over lunch is not dating). They should have been more aware of what their son was doing during the day and teaching him about relationship building, consent, power differentials, etc.
And if he's the type to be very sneaky, the parents should have figured that out by know and had something in place so that he couldn't bring a girl to the house mid day with no adults home (presuming they are at work).
Absolutely maddening.
No way would I let my 17 year old boy "date" a 14 year old (which he wasn't even doing, sex over lunch is not dating). They should have been more aware of what their son was doing during the day and teaching him about relationship building, consent, power differentials, etc.
And if he's the type to be very sneaky, the parents should have figured that out by know and had something in place so that he couldn't bring a girl to the house mid day with no adults home (presuming they are at work).
Absolutely maddening.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:12
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is old enough to consent to somebody < 4 years older than she is so it is not a sexual assault.
Good lord she absolutely is not. She is no where near age of legal consent in any state …
You don't understand the law.
the law is 16 to have sex with anybody you want.
If you are 14-15 you can have sex with anybody <4 year older than you are.
And actually I think it's insane that a 16 or even an 18 year old can consent to sex with a 50 year old or even a 28 year old, that is way more disturbing than 14 and 17.
18 is a legal adult. I think it's insane that you want the government to tell an adult woman what she can/can't do with her body.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:12
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of assumptions being made on this thread. Laws regarding statutory rape vary from state to state. 14 is generally below the age of consent, regardless of the age of the other party. There are Romeo and Juliet laws in some states, but not in others. If the boy turned 18 during the relationship, that's another level all together.
Thank God there are laws to protect girls from people like you. She was/ is a child.
So was he.
Laws don't protect girls. Their parents do. Or in this case, don't.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:11
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of assumptions being made on this thread. Laws regarding statutory rape vary from state to state. 14 is generally below the age of consent, regardless of the age of the other party. There are Romeo and Juliet laws in some states, but not in others. If the boy turned 18 during the relationship, that's another level all together.
Thank God there are laws to protect girls from people like you. She was/ is a child.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:11
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of assumptions being made on this thread. Laws regarding statutory rape vary from state to state. 14 is generally below the age of consent, regardless of the age of the other party. There are Romeo and Juliet laws in some states, but not in others. If the boy turned 18 during the relationship, that's another level all together.
Well that is a pretty stupid law. A 14 year old having sex with 17 year old is okay. They continue to have sex but one turns 18 and now is arrested and charged with rape? It’s either rape at the beginning or it is not.
Statutory rape laws are not about protecting the girl, herself. They're about protecting the parents' child and attacking the boyfriend.
This thread is strange, the way everyone is using statutory rape laws for a different purpose.
If statutory rape laws were about protecting minors, she could be charged too, in the states where the age of consent is 18.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:09
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:States With Romeo And Juliet Laws
Different types of Romeo and Juliet Laws can be found in the following states:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Connecticut
Hawaii
Iowa
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Minnesota
Mississippi
New Jersey
New Mexico
North Carolina
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming
DMV
Virginia
The age at which a person can legally consent to sexual intercourse in Virginia is 18. However, it’s certainly not unusual for teens to engage in consensual intercourse with one another before this age. For this reason, Virginia lists allowances for children ages 15-17.
The 14 year old would not be covered by RJ law in Virginia
Maybe I missed it. Did OP say her niece lives in VA?
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:02
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of assumptions being made on this thread. Laws regarding statutory rape vary from state to state. 14 is generally below the age of consent, regardless of the age of the other party. There are Romeo and Juliet laws in some states, but not in others. If the boy turned 18 during the relationship, that's another level all together.
Well that is a pretty stupid law. A 14 year old having sex with 17 year old is okay. They continue to have sex but one turns 18 and now is arrested and charged with rape? It’s either rape at the beginning or it is not.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 11:01
Subject: Re:Is this “boys will be boys” or an offense?
States With Romeo And Juliet Laws
Different types of Romeo and Juliet Laws can be found in the following states:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Connecticut
Hawaii
Iowa
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Minnesota
Mississippi
New Jersey
New Mexico
North Carolina
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming
DMV
Virginia
The age at which a person can legally consent to sexual intercourse in Virginia is 18. However, it’s certainly not unusual for teens to engage in consensual intercourse with one another before this age. For this reason, Virginia lists allowances for children ages 15-17.
The 14 year old would not be covered by RJ law in Virginia
Different types of Romeo and Juliet Laws can be found in the following states:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Connecticut
Hawaii
Iowa
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Minnesota
Mississippi
New Jersey
New Mexico
North Carolina
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming
DMV
Virginia
The age at which a person can legally consent to sexual intercourse in Virginia is 18. However, it’s certainly not unusual for teens to engage in consensual intercourse with one another before this age. For this reason, Virginia lists allowances for children ages 15-17.
The 14 year old would not be covered by RJ law in Virginia