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We can both understand how to do math - and understand Pelosi's job - and still find the squad's vote and behavior to be unacceptable.

Unless you're their constituent, it doesn't really matter what you find unacceptable.

I haven’t heard a whiff of anger, frustration or even awareness that 200 Republicans voted against infrastructure. Lots of group think going on here. Let’s think harder, people.

The difference is that I don't vote for Republicans because I know they are going to be obstructionist a-turds. I expect more from Democrats. I also expect Democrats not to undermine the party's own platform and achievements.

“Of course I know the GOP are just terrorists at this point!”

How did their vote undermine it when it didn’t change the outcome and Madam Speaker was okay with it?

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't he signing it today? Is he on vacation at the beach?

I truly believe he isn't in charge anymore. The progressives initially refused to back down after ordered to on Friday in the House vote and they held out two weeks before when he was flying off to Europe.

Biden was quoting as wanting to sign the bill right after 11PM EST on Friday night when it passed Congress. He was persuaded to move the signing to Saturday afternoon with a press pool. That signing has now mysteriously moved to November 15th. Knowing every day of delay the money for projects and groundbreaking ceremonies for needed infrastructure is delayed as well.

Maybe he is putting pressure on Sinema Manchin to uphold agreement about the other bill?

He's definitely holding it out because the CBO deadline for the other bill is *coincidentally* Nov. 15th. The Squad probably blew up Ron Klain's phone on Saturday to get the signing moved. I hope it fails.

LOL, not going to happen. This infrastructure bill was the biggest lure, and now that it has passed the House, Biden has no choice but to sign it. If Biden vetos the bill, there will be even worse blowback for next year's elections. There is no more pressure for Manchin and Sinema to agree to anything on the BBB bill.

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't he signing it today? Is he on vacation at the beach?

I truly believe he isn't in charge anymore. The progressives initially refused to back down after ordered to on Friday in the House vote and they held out two weeks before when he was flying off to Europe.

Biden was quoting as wanting to sign the bill right after 11PM EST on Friday night when it passed Congress. He was persuaded to move the signing to Saturday afternoon with a press pool. That signing has now mysteriously moved to November 15th. Knowing every day of delay the money for projects and groundbreaking ceremonies for needed infrastructure is delayed as well.

Maybe he is putting pressure on Sinema Manchin to uphold agreement about the other bill?

He's definitely holding it out because the CBO deadline for the other bill is *coincidentally* Nov. 15th. The Squad probably blew up Ron Klain's phone on Saturday to get the signing moved. I hope it fails.

LOL, not going to happen. This infrastructure bill was the biggest lure, and now that it has passed the House, Biden has no choice but to sign it. If Biden vetos the bill, there will be even worse blowback for next year's elections. There is no more pressure for Manchin and Sinema to agree to anything on the BBB bill.

Already signed by Nancy, still not by Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't he signing it today? Is he on vacation at the beach?

I truly believe he isn't in charge anymore. The progressives initially refused to back down after ordered to on Friday in the House vote and they held out two weeks before when he was flying off to Europe.

Biden was quoting as wanting to sign the bill right after 11PM EST on Friday night when it passed Congress. He was persuaded to move the signing to Saturday afternoon with a press pool. That signing has now mysteriously moved to November 15th. Knowing every day of delay the money for projects and groundbreaking ceremonies for needed infrastructure is delayed as well.

Maybe he is putting pressure on Sinema Manchin to uphold agreement about the other bill?

He's definitely holding it out because the CBO deadline for the other bill is *coincidentally* Nov. 15th. The Squad probably blew up Ron Klain's phone on Saturday to get the signing moved. I hope it fails.

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't he signing it today? Is he on vacation at the beach?

I truly believe he isn't in charge anymore. The progressives initially refused to back down after ordered to on Friday in the House vote and they held out two weeks before when he was flying off to Europe.

Biden was quoting as wanting to sign the bill right after 11PM EST on Friday night when it passed Congress. He was persuaded to move the signing to Saturday afternoon with a press pool. That signing has now mysteriously moved to November 15th. Knowing every day of delay the money for projects and groundbreaking ceremonies for needed infrastructure is delayed as well.

Maybe he is putting pressure on Sinema Manchin to uphold agreement about the other bill?

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We can both understand how to do math - and understand Pelosi's job - and still find the squad's vote and behavior to be unacceptable.

Unless you're their constituent, it doesn't really matter what you find unacceptable.

I haven’t heard a whiff of anger, frustration or even awareness that 200 Republicans voted against infrastructure. Lots of group think going on here. Let’s think harder, people.

The difference is that I don't vote for Republicans because I know they are going to be obstructionist a-turds. I expect more from Democrats. I also expect Democrats not to undermine the party's own platform and achievements.

Anonymous wrote:Why isn't he signing it today? Is he on vacation at the beach?

Needs the photo op for campaigning/ads?

Anonymous wrote:Why isn't he signing it today? Is he on vacation at the beach?

I truly believe he isn't in charge anymore. The progressives initially refused to back down after ordered to on Friday in the House vote and they held out two weeks before when he was flying off to Europe.

Biden was quoting as wanting to sign the bill right after 11PM EST on Friday night when it passed Congress. He was persuaded to move the signing to Saturday afternoon with a press pool. That signing has now mysteriously moved to November 15th. Knowing every day of delay the money for projects and groundbreaking ceremonies for needed infrastructure is delayed as well.

Why isn't he signing it today? Is he on vacation at the beach?

Delay, delay, delay. I swear Biden's administration is the worst at taking action and running with it. He should be signing that bill TODAY not a week before Thanksgiving when none of the public is focused on it.

Do an entire press run now - fly out to Michigan and California and be pictured in front of bridges and ports with the transportation team.

Every time they get a win they shuffle it aside which is why his poll numbers are dropping like a lead ballon. He did the same thing when we got 60% of the country vaccinated in 4-5 months, an incredible feat, and instead just said 'it wasn't enough'.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

What about the 200 Republicans who would wait idly for the next collapsed bridge or Flint, Michigan with their ‘no’ vote?

At least they voted no and shut their trap. AOC voted no and is bashing the president from her own party for putting $15 billion towards clean water and $40 billion towards bridges. $55 billion is better than $0 in my book.

Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

What about the 200 Republicans who would wait idly for the next collapsed bridge or Flint, Michigan with their ‘no’ vote?

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We can both understand how to do math - and understand Pelosi's job - and still find the squad's vote and behavior to be unacceptable.

Unless you're their constituent, it doesn't really matter what you find unacceptable.

I haven’t heard a whiff of anger, frustration or even awareness that 200 Republicans voted against infrastructure. Lots of group think going on here. Let’s think harder, people.

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to acknowledge that there are entire swaths of people in this country that disagree with the other side and elected representatives to vote for the exact opposite of what progressives are pushing is odd. At least when republicans obstruct legislation, they say it's what only their constituents want. It's odd to insist progressives are representing everyone when clearly half the country doesnt want progressive policy.

It’s odd the way extremists like you insist that progressive politics aren’t popular.

“Sixty-three percent of voters in the poll said they supported the $3.5 trillion overall plan that includes spending on health care, long-term care, child care, and clean-energy jobs.” https://www.vox.com/2021/10/15/22723457/build-back-better-poll-democrats-bill-infrastructure-taxes

You can see the media’s abject failure in reporting what’s in the bill though. People don’t feel like they understand what’s in it. It’s almost as if the conservative media that people call “liberal” really, really wants it to fail. https://www.newsweek.com/most-americans-dont-know-much-specifically-about-bidens-build-back-better-plan-poll-1637397

Dem here. You do understand the difference between polls and elections right? The only thing that matters is the vote.

Dem to whom you’re replying. You understand that polling is one of the tolls used to tell lawmakers what their actual constituents think, right?