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Anonymous wrote:2025 tryout last night was very surprising - hardly any new helmets. A couple of MadLax, Hammers, one NL. Mainly it was existing players. Be interesting to see who comes to the second tryout.

Didn’t a PP say there would be top notch 2025 DC Express and Next Level kids coming over? He must have had bad intel?

Even fewer new helmets tonight. No DCE.

Anonymous wrote:2025 tryout last night was very surprising - hardly any new helmets. A couple of MadLax, Hammers, one NL. Mainly it was existing players. Be interesting to see who comes to the second tryout.

Agreed, not many new players. There was at least one without a club helmet that looked good....be interesting to see if we pick up any new boys.

Anonymous wrote:2025 tryout last night was very surprising - hardly any new helmets. A couple of MadLax, Hammers, one NL. Mainly it was existing players. Be interesting to see who comes to the second tryout.

Didn’t a PP say there would be top notch 2025 DC Express and Next Level kids coming over? He must have had bad intel?

Anonymous wrote:These are children who are trying their best at a difficult sport. Yet, they are being described in this forum as “horseshit”. My god, these are high school players. Not professionals. Wow.

stop clutching your pearls. vlc dir will say "that's horseshit" explaining to a 6th grade player what he's been taught not to do and reemphasize the right way to do things. If gone uncorrected, it shows up all over the field. hs kids get more graphic examples but its all good.

These are children who are trying their best at a difficult sport. Yet, they are being described in this forum as “horseshit”. My god, these are high school players. Not professionals. Wow.

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there are current vlc teams that clear as day have these exact same symptoms yet parents were told a few years back to trust the process... and here's the end product. sad.

We’ve been told that the younger teams with those problems will improve via player replacement. Yet apparently even that hasn’t happened for this older team. Sad, indeed.

Follow ‘23 class college placements. Some will be on attack. Don’t judge based on what you read here

keep your eyes on 23s - not the 20s, 21s or 22s. But PP judgement is 100% accurate for multiple vlc teams and it's in clear view from the sidelines "Offense/Midfield is uninspired and for lack of a better term horseshit. They can't keep possession, they take terrible shots, can't throw and catch, and can't dodge, no movement off ball much less on ball. "

If this post is from the same whimpering 2025 parent then you don’t have a clue. The offense you refer to as horseshit has multiple UA all Americans and NIke and NLF all stars. They made the finals of the IL invitational. The offense is not as strong as one local team but still the best option in Nova. You must not know much about the sport as you don’t know what a good offense looks like.

Agreed the 23s team is more what VLC expects to have, the 22s team offense is horseshit though that was fair.

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there are current vlc teams that clear as day have these exact same symptoms yet parents were told a few years back to trust the process... and here's the end product. sad.

We’ve been told that the younger teams with those problems will improve via player replacement. Yet apparently even that hasn’t happened for this older team. Sad, indeed.

Follow ‘23 class college placements. Some will be on attack. Don’t judge based on what you read here

keep your eyes on 23s - not the 20s, 21s or 22s. But PP judgement is 100% accurate for multiple vlc teams and it's in clear view from the sidelines "Offense/Midfield is uninspired and for lack of a better term horseshit. They can't keep possession, they take terrible shots, can't throw and catch, and can't dodge, no movement off ball much less on ball. "

If this post is from the same whimpering 2025 parent then you don’t have a clue. The offense you refer to as horseshit has multiple UA all Americans and NIke and NLF all stars. They made the finals of the IL invitational. The offense is not as strong as one local team but still the best option in Nova. You must not know much about the sport as you don’t know what a good offense looks like.

I think that while the 22 team has had its issues but it wasn’t the process that was wrong. They got screwed early when they were a combo team with the 23s and never were able to get the few key players that would make the difference. Add to that having a huge chunk of their roster injured and it is all made worse. I agree with the PP the defense and goalie are solid but when the offense is as inefficient as theirs is it makes it hard to really compete. I think they play again this weekend and hope they finish their time at VLC on a higher note but I suspect they’ll once again (as VLC always does) they’ll be playing against the best of the best and let the chips fall where they may. Good luck 22s. Despite all this they will have players playing in college.

2025 tryout last night was very surprising - hardly any new helmets. A couple of MadLax, Hammers, one NL. Mainly it was existing players. Be interesting to see who comes to the second tryout.

Any interesting helmets at VLC tryouts? Someone mentioned they were expecting 100+ kids.

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there are current vlc teams that clear as day have these exact same symptoms yet parents were told a few years back to trust the process... and here's the end product. sad.

We’ve been told that the younger teams with those problems will improve via player replacement. Yet apparently even that hasn’t happened for this older team. Sad, indeed.

Follow ‘23 class college placements. Some will be on attack. Don’t judge based on what you read here

keep your eyes on 23s - not the 20s, 21s or 22s. But PP judgement is 100% accurate for multiple vlc teams and it's in clear view from the sidelines "Offense/Midfield is uninspired and for lack of a better term horseshit. They can't keep possession, they take terrible shots, can't throw and catch, and can't dodge, no movement off ball much less on ball. "

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there are current vlc teams that clear as day have these exact same symptoms yet parents were told a few years back to trust the process... and here's the end product. sad.

We’ve been told that the younger teams with those problems will improve via player replacement. Yet apparently even that hasn’t happened for this older team. Sad, indeed.

Follow ‘23 class college placements. Some will be on attack. Don’t judge based on what you read here

there are current vlc teams that clear as day have these exact same symptoms yet parents were told a few years back to trust the process... and here's the end product. sad.

We’ve been told that the younger teams with those problems will improve via player replacement. Yet apparently even that hasn’t happened for this older team. Sad, indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:college coaches looking for defenders must have seen lots of defense reps on first day. 23s tied for last in offense (11 goals in 3 games). In as many games, 22s were 3rd to last in offense (13 goals) and 2nd to last in defense (41 goals allowed) so they also had stiff competition.

JG I am glad you can use the tourney machine app.

OP - you obviously have no idea how good that team is and has become. Just wait and see where their kids end up.

i have seen them play and sure do hope the college coaches saw them too. waiting and seeing what these coaches do on sept 1st for 23s. good things going on with 22s as well?

22's not a much, team has like 10 players injured/out for the entire summer. I think they are just holding on and will have probably only have 6-8 kids playing in college.

I've watched this team at a few events. Defense/goal is solid and does a lot right and would perform well with any squad in front of them. Offense/Midfield is uninspired and for lack of a better term horseshit. They can't keep possession, they take terrible shots, can't throw and catch, and can't dodge, no movement off ball much less on ball. Other than that they are great. If my son were on this defense, I would have left long ago as it ultimately makes them look bad because eventually they make a mistake by trying to overcompensate and give up the goals. They are just a hard team to watch and I am sure the parents of the few kids that are good are frustrated, I've only watched them occasionally but man its painful.

Are you referring to ‘22 or ‘23?

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Anonymous wrote:college coaches looking for defenders must have seen lots of defense reps on first day. 23s tied for last in offense (11 goals in 3 games). In as many games, 22s were 3rd to last in offense (13 goals) and 2nd to last in defense (41 goals allowed) so they also had stiff competition.

JG I am glad you can use the tourney machine app.

OP - you obviously have no idea how good that team is and has become. Just wait and see where their kids end up.

i have seen them play and sure do hope the college coaches saw them too. waiting and seeing what these coaches do on sept 1st for 23s. good things going on with 22s as well?

22's not a much, team has like 10 players injured/out for the entire summer. I think they are just holding on and will have probably only have 6-8 kids playing in college.

I've watched this team at a few events. Defense/goal is solid and does a lot right and would perform well with any squad in front of them. Offense/Midfield is uninspired and for lack of a better term horseshit. They can't keep possession, they take terrible shots, can't throw and catch, and can't dodge, no movement off ball much less on ball. Other than that they are great. If my son were on this defense, I would have left long ago as it ultimately makes them look bad because eventually they make a mistake by trying to overcompensate and give up the goals. They are just a hard team to watch and I am sure the parents of the few kids that are good are frustrated, I've only watched them occasionally but man its painful.

there are current vlc teams that clear as day have these exact same symptoms yet parents were told a few years back to trust the process... and here's the end product. sad.