Anonymous
Post 07/04/2025 00:06     Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent
Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.


The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.
Social security is funded separately, BBB has no effect on SSI taxes that fund SSI. Stop trying to scare people, no one buys it.


You know that social security and income taxes get combined and spent together, right?
Not true. Social security taxes and trust fund bond interest fund current SS benefits. When SS taxes exceed benefits, the excess goes to the Treasury, but the Treasury issues a bond to the SSA trust fund for the amount of the excess. So nothing to do with federal income tax.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 23:52     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:This is gong to be devastating for the healthcare system. I can’t believe the GOP convinced the sheep that they are cutting Medicaid for illegals—who don’t even qualify for it. It’s going to devastate rural healthcare. Nursing homes will shut down. Hospitals will shut down. The ones that don’t will have to compensate somehow for the loss of revenue. Increased prices. But the MAGA cult will screech about the hysterical libs until it all
comes true. Then they will find a way to blame the Democrats. Bc frankly at this point I just think they are dumb as rocks.


Funnny it will affect small towns more than Big cities
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 23:43     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

This is gong to be devastating for the healthcare system. I can’t believe the GOP convinced the sheep that they are cutting Medicaid for illegals—who don’t even qualify for it. It’s going to devastate rural healthcare. Nursing homes will shut down. Hospitals will shut down. The ones that don’t will have to compensate somehow for the loss of revenue. Increased prices. But the MAGA cult will screech about the hysterical libs until it all
comes true. Then they will find a way to blame the Democrats. Bc frankly at this point I just think they are dumb as rocks.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 23:13     Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent
Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.


The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.
Social security is funded separately, BBB has no effect on SSI taxes that fund SSI. Stop trying to scare people, no one buys it.


Sweet ignorant child…maybe stop voting until you get a clue.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 23:09     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We as a nation are lost.
This bill, which most of the people voting for it had not read, is going to wreak havoc on the lives of the poorest Americans.
Remember the breadlines in the Depression? No? Not born yet? I wasn't either. Google it, kids.
That is coming. Starvation right here in the richest country in the world.
People dying in hospital parking lots, once again.
But hey, say the Tech Bros, those poor people are expendable. AI is coming to take over most jobs. We don't need those leeches, say the Tech Bro Billionaires.
Despicable does not begin to describe the GOP who lied about this bill and then are going to stick it to their constituents -- after the midterms, of course!!
Heartless. Cruel. Unconscionable. But, hey, the TechBros have no conscience! They have no empathy, as Elon Musk has said over and over again.
Empathy is for suckers, say these despicable people.
Deplorable. That's the right term for them. Utterly deplorable.



We have the fattest poor people in the history of earth. What more are we supposed to do?


Apparently the GOP plan is to kill them off.


And they’re all so proud to be Christian.


Today Trump was extolling the many virtues of the recently deceased TV evangelist Jimmy Swaggart.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 23:06     Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent
Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.


The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.
Social security is funded separately, BBB has no effect on SSI taxes that fund SSI. Stop trying to scare people, no one buys it.


You know that social security and income taxes get combined and spent together, right?
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 22:53     Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent
Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.


The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.
Social security is funded separately, BBB has no effect on SSI taxes that fund SSI. Stop trying to scare people, no one buys it.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 22:41     Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent
Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.


The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.


Economic analysis clearly shows nothing ever trickles down from tax cuts for the rich https://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope_economic_consequences_of_major_tax_cuts_published.pdf
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 22:40     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We as a nation are lost.
This bill, which most of the people voting for it had not read, is going to wreak havoc on the lives of the poorest Americans.
Remember the breadlines in the Depression? No? Not born yet? I wasn't either. Google it, kids.
That is coming. Starvation right here in the richest country in the world.
People dying in hospital parking lots, once again.
But hey, say the Tech Bros, those poor people are expendable. AI is coming to take over most jobs. We don't need those leeches, say the Tech Bro Billionaires.
Despicable does not begin to describe the GOP who lied about this bill and then are going to stick it to their constituents -- after the midterms, of course!!
Heartless. Cruel. Unconscionable. But, hey, the TechBros have no conscience! They have no empathy, as Elon Musk has said over and over again.
Empathy is for suckers, say these despicable people.
Deplorable. That's the right term for them. Utterly deplorable.


My parents went through the Great depression as children.

I am 100% convinced Republicans want it to happen again to kill off as many poor Americans as possible. Already killed a million during the pandemic, sounds like they want to kill off a few million more.


Some of you have literally lost your minds.


Well, time will tell, won't it?

Nothing will be stopped for the next 3+ years.


It’s already obvious. Your “we’re all gonna die” hysteria is over the top.


Are we dead yet?
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 22:31     Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent
Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.


The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 22:06     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We as a nation are lost.
This bill, which most of the people voting for it had not read, is going to wreak havoc on the lives of the poorest Americans.
Remember the breadlines in the Depression? No? Not born yet? I wasn't either. Google it, kids.
That is coming. Starvation right here in the richest country in the world.
People dying in hospital parking lots, once again.
But hey, say the Tech Bros, those poor people are expendable. AI is coming to take over most jobs. We don't need those leeches, say the Tech Bro Billionaires.
Despicable does not begin to describe the GOP who lied about this bill and then are going to stick it to their constituents -- after the midterms, of course!!
Heartless. Cruel. Unconscionable. But, hey, the TechBros have no conscience! They have no empathy, as Elon Musk has said over and over again.
Empathy is for suckers, say these despicable people.
Deplorable. That's the right term for them. Utterly deplorable.


My parents went through the Great depression as children.

I am 100% convinced Republicans want it to happen again to kill off as many poor Americans as possible. Already killed a million during the pandemic, sounds like they want to kill off a few million more.


Some of you have literally lost your minds.


Well, time will tell, won't it?

Nothing will be stopped for the next 3+ years.


It’s already obvious. Your “we’re all gonna die” hysteria is over the top.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 22:05     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:Give credit where it is due- Chuck Schumer got the name of the bill officially changed. But before that he arranged for a continuing resolution/omnibus to pass, avoiding a government shutdown and letting Trump do what he wanted and letting Congress focus on getting this bill passed.


Completely forgot that he paved the way for this to happen. Thank you for the reminder!
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 21:54     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

GOP will go down in history as evil. MAGA will go down in history as dupes.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 21:42     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:Watching him speak in Iowa and in the 10 minutes I watched he took credit for ending the war in Rwanda, called bankers shylocks, referred to his military parade as taking place on 5th avenue-not once but TWICE, and said he’ll be hosting a UFC at the WH for the 259 celebration. The guy is legit nuts but hey, it’s Trump’s world and we’re just living in it. Buckling up for the next 3.5 years. This is wild.


Vulgar tastes + malignant narcissism + dementia = Trump
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 21:35     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so happy this past because until s*** starts happening to real people, they think all of it is made up and Democrats are just being hyperbolic..... I have family members who will be very much impacted by the things in this bill and I am 100% here for it

The Medicaid cuts do not go into effect until December 2026, a month after the elections.


Don’t understand the logic though.

Either the GOP knows it will lose the midterms and try to stick the democrats with the cuts but lose legislative power. Or the GOP holds Congress and loses bigly in 2028.