Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hugh was an intel honeypot as well. It’s very obvious. Diddy’s LA house was very close to Hugh’s.
That’s interesting. What makes you think HH was an intel honeypot? What would he be finding out?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think there is a difference in that High Heffner was very open about his debauchery and deviance. He started playboy in 1953, his house was called the playboy mansion. He dressed in dressing gowns. Anyone going to his place knew what they were getting into.
Sean on the other hand pretended to be one person and all the debauchery and deviance was behind closed doors and hidden from the character he played in public.
No, his debauchery and deviance were considered rather vanilla at the time. He got a pass. It was not until his later years that the stories were revealed.
I think he was a government spy or something. Very odd a man from the Midwest and can somehow start a porn magazine that somehow interviewed politicians. Didn’t Playboy interview Pres Jimmy Carter once?
Playboy history is complicated. They have a history of hiring competent journalists who have written legitimately interesting articles, including interviews with many famous and renowned people. I'm not into what they have evolved into or a defender of Heffner, but it's a little simplistic to view them as a "porn magazine" exclusively.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think there is a difference in that High Heffner was very open about his debauchery and deviance. He started playboy in 1953, his house was called the playboy mansion. He dressed in dressing gowns. Anyone going to his place knew what they were getting into.
Sean on the other hand pretended to be one person and all the debauchery and deviance was behind closed doors and hidden from the character he played in public.
No, his debauchery and deviance were considered rather vanilla at the time. He got a pass. It was not until his later years that the stories were revealed.
I think he was a government spy or something. Very odd a man from the Midwest and can somehow start a porn magazine that somehow interviewed politicians. Didn’t Playboy interview Pres Jimmy Carter once?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think there is a difference in that High Heffner was very open about his debauchery and deviance. He started playboy in 1953, his house was called the playboy mansion. He dressed in dressing gowns. Anyone going to his place knew what they were getting into.
Sean on the other hand pretended to be one person and all the debauchery and deviance was behind closed doors and hidden from the character he played in public.
I don’t know HH well. Did he beat women too?
Not to my knowledge…it was more the drugging, raping, recording, bisexual orgies, an entourage of guests who also sexually assaulted the women (and maybe men) and a ‘clean-up crew’ to hide evidence and scare the victims into silence.
Anonymous wrote:Hugh was an intel honeypot as well. It’s very obvious. Diddy’s LA house was very close to Hugh’s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Didn't work for Cosby.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how Diddy is any different than Hugh Hefner. They have many similarities. Do we forget Hefner filmed all the parties and encounters at the PB mansion? He drugged women too and people mocked his accusers as disgruntled girlfriends when they referenced abuse by him. That sick old man was able to die peacefully in old age with three girlfriends.
He was also bisexual and slept with poor male teenagers exploiting them but I guess that’s fine. He was also branded “a mogul” that threw wild Mansion parties that tons of celebrities and politicians attended
Hugh Hefner was also disgusting and did heinous things to people.
I watched that several-part documentary about him and my takeaway is that there was more secrecy in his day and the women didn't speak up or if they did they were actively discredited by him and others. He also promoted himself as a feminist and free speech advocate and hid behind that. I don't believe he was sincere in any way, but I think famous people were more able to use the media to promote false, good guy personas in the past despite obvious evidence to the contrary. He was completely despicable.
It worked until it didn't. Cosby got a story killed in National Enquirer about his rapes. Janice Dickinson had to remove her story about him in her memoir. He got away with it for a long time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think there is a difference in that High Heffner was very open about his debauchery and deviance. He started playboy in 1953, his house was called the playboy mansion. He dressed in dressing gowns. Anyone going to his place knew what they were getting into.
Sean on the other hand pretended to be one person and all the debauchery and deviance was behind closed doors and hidden from the character he played in public.
No, his debauchery and deviance were considered rather vanilla at the time. He got a pass. It was not until his later years that the stories were revealed.
I think he was a government spy or something. Very odd a man from the Midwest and can somehow start a porn magazine that somehow interviewed politicians. Didn’t Playboy interview Pres Jimmy Carter once?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think there is a difference in that High Heffner was very open about his debauchery and deviance. He started playboy in 1953, his house was called the playboy mansion. He dressed in dressing gowns. Anyone going to his place knew what they were getting into.
Sean on the other hand pretended to be one person and all the debauchery and deviance was behind closed doors and hidden from the character he played in public.
I don’t know HH well. Did he beat women too?
He forced Linda Marchiano, who was raped repeatedly in the making of Deep Throat, to engage in bestiality with a dog.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think there is a difference in that High Heffner was very open about his debauchery and deviance. He started playboy in 1953, his house was called the playboy mansion. He dressed in dressing gowns. Anyone going to his place knew what they were getting into.
Sean on the other hand pretended to be one person and all the debauchery and deviance was behind closed doors and hidden from the character he played in public.
I don’t know HH well. Did he beat women too?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think there is a difference in that High Heffner was very open about his debauchery and deviance. He started playboy in 1953, his house was called the playboy mansion. He dressed in dressing gowns. Anyone going to his place knew what they were getting into.
Sean on the other hand pretended to be one person and all the debauchery and deviance was behind closed doors and hidden from the character he played in public.
No, his debauchery and deviance were considered rather vanilla at the time. He got a pass. It was not until his later years that the stories were revealed.
Anonymous wrote:I think there is a difference in that High Heffner was very open about his debauchery and deviance. He started playboy in 1953, his house was called the playboy mansion. He dressed in dressing gowns. Anyone going to his place knew what they were getting into.
Sean on the other hand pretended to be one person and all the debauchery and deviance was behind closed doors and hidden from the character he played in public.