Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:15     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Traitors gotta trait



Other than the call for sanctions, this is just a lot of stupid rhetoric about "peace through strength." Biden is doing sanctions. So what's the point of this? He's doing exactly what she wants and yet she cannot stop herself from criticizing him.


It makes me sick to see her standing next to an American flag.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:13     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Traitors gotta trait



You are not seriously referring to Stefanik as traitor for saying Biden has not done enough? (if you were in Russia and someone said that or anything critical about Putin they would be considered a traitor but that is not how US works.)


Did Nixon ream Kennedy over Vietnam?
Did Clinton call out W over 9/11?

What precedent is there for ranks not closing behind a US president in a time like this?


We all need to get behind these sanctions as soon as they are announced!? At least the Germans sent helmets.


It is clear who the republicans support and it is not the US.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:11     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t Biden taking in Ukrainian refugees?



No. Just no. Look at history, and apply it to what would happen if we took in a bunch of Ukrainians.

In 1959 the people of Cuba overthrew the fascist Batista regime. Tens of thousands of Cuban elites and capitalist kleptocrats fled Cuba, most going to south Florida. Their descendants are STILL voting republican today. They are responsible for Florida still being a red state. They grew up their whole lives being brainwashed about how JFK and Democrats let Castro take over the country and caused their parents of grandparents to flee for their lives. And they’re still holding a grudge and keeping republicans in power over that.

Now extrapolate that to potentially millions of Ukrainian refugees coming here. They would settle here, have children, and brainwash them about how President Biden and Democrats let Russians take their country from them. Those kids would end up just like the successive generations of Cubans who are hard-core GOP’rs. And there would be far more of them, and they would be highly politically motivated to continue to punish Dems in America. This will affect the Democrats for generations if we take in a bunch of Ukrainians who wouldn’t fight for their own country when Russia attacked them.

We cannot admit Ukrainian refugees. It would be an unmitigated political disaster within 20 years.


Refugees are refugees and deserve asylum and our compassion, unless you think that we should close our borders to those who apparently may not potentially agree with your political views?
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:10     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Traitors gotta trait



Other than the call for sanctions, this is just a lot of stupid rhetoric about "peace through strength." Biden is doing sanctions. So what's the point of this? He's doing exactly what she wants and yet she cannot stop herself from criticizing him.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:10     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Biden will work this out before it gets too bad. He got us out of Afghanistan. He can keep the west out of Ukrain. He has more political experience than any politician in recent history. He has been training for this since he turned thirty. I am confident.


He will be even better in his second term.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:10     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: As someone who was born and raised in a dictatorship, I'm always baffled to see people who have all the historical ressources at their disposal to make better choices choose to go in the opposite direction. What we're currently witnessing is the end of putin as we knew him but also the end of the russian federation as it currently stands.

Russia doesn’t have the financial nor human ressources to engage in a protracted military conflict with multiple nations at once . Worse, this war is putin's and solely putin's. If anyone saw that awkward exchange he had with his spy chief , you'd know this . There's no realistic path through which it ends well for putin and russia .


This raises a question I've been having. The USSR broke up for a reason. Won't that reason (or reasons) still apply if Putin takes some of those areas back? I don't know if those reasons are the areas being a financial burden, unmanageable anti-Moscow sentiment, or what. But it seems like if Putin puts Humpty-Dumpty back together again, it's not going to be any prettier than it was before.


Simply put, the USSR crumbled under its own weight. Putin is a revisionist—though, scary at it is, he actually believes his own lies. Of course, it won't be prettier than it was before and, the willingness of the majority of 40+million people to not be subservient to moscow is a parameter than the old USSR didn’t really have to contend with .
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:09     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fun stuff right here coming for Europe:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putins-shock-awe-war-ukraine-unfolds-dark-day-europe-many-hundreds-killed


Putin mouthpiece


Not the OP but if you look at the videos they show Russian/Belarusian helicopters being shot down.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:07     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t Biden taking in Ukrainian refugees?



There are no flights out MAGA


Maybe US needs to take control of Donbask International Airport like we did in Kabul?


The difference is that we were already there. It was our fight. This is not our fight. Any US military involvement makes this situation worse and not better.


The US/Ukrainian government forces controlled Donbask International Airport before yesterday.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:07     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Fun stuff right here coming for Europe:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putins-shock-awe-war-ukraine-unfolds-dark-day-europe-many-hundreds-killed


Putin mouthpiece
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:05     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Biden will work this out before it gets too bad. He got us out of Afghanistan. He can keep the west out of Ukrain. He has more political experience than any politician in recent history. He has been training for this since he turned thirty. I am confident.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:03     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t Biden taking in Ukrainian refugees?



There are no flights out MAGA


Maybe US needs to take control of Donbask International Airport like we did in Kabul?


The difference is that we were already there. It was our fight. This is not our fight. Any US military involvement makes this situation worse and not better.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 13:03     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:We need to get behind Biden as soon as he does something.

Maybe the truckers should turn around and go back to California.



The truckers from Scranton? Are you as lost as them?
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 12:59     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 12:57     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

We need to get behind Biden as soon as he does something.

Maybe the truckers should turn around and go back to California.

Anonymous
Post 02/24/2022 12:50     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Traitors gotta trait



You are not seriously referring to Stefanik as traitor for saying Biden has not done enough? (if you were in Russia and someone said that or anything critical about Putin they would be considered a traitor but that is not how US works.)


Did Nixon ream Kennedy over Vietnam?
Did Clinton call out W over 9/11?

What precedent is there for ranks not closing behind a US president in a time like this?


We all need to get behind these sanctions as soon as they are announced!? At least the Germans sent helmets.