Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.
The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.
Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.
I had the same thought.
White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.
Black man DIES - 51 pages.
2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.
There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.
Yes. This thread would be a lot shorter if there weren't so many people trying to blame the black victim for baiting and setting up the white racist to victimize him.
It is so disheartening the lengths that people will go, to shift the blame to victims.
The woman caused the entire problem by first not leashing her dog in a protected bird habitat and second, when asked politely, refusing and arguing about being called out for being an a$$hole. Everything after that was a direct cause of her actions. She was given a second chance to either put the leash on or leave, but she had to argue that she had a right to break the law.Sorry, but she was the instigator and 100% to blame for everything that happened after that. PERIOD.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.
The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.
Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.
I had the same thought.
White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.
Black man DIES - 51 pages.
2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.
There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully he rethinks his scare tactics. Hopefully she rethinks her privileged white lady tears. And I wish she'd be charged for reporting a false crime. Sadly, I bet none of these happen.
It wasn’t a false crime. She shouldn’t have said threatening her life but people say crazy things when threatened. Unfortunately I have seen and know too many cases where what was left after a conversation like this is a woman’s body. I’m sure she knew that as well.
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully he rethinks his scare tactics. Hopefully she rethinks her privileged white lady tears. And I wish she'd be charged for reporting a false crime. Sadly, I bet none of these happen.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.
The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.
Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.
I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.
He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.
I have a really neat idea! Why don’t you go back and support each one of the assertions you’ve made with actual data? Maybe start with the one about how there’s a longer video out there. How do you know this? Have you seen it? Can you provide a link? Otherwise you’re just repeating things that you’re fabricating — for whatever reasons. How about some sort of data to support every time you used the words “clear” and “clearly”? Hint:Most things that are as “clear” as you seem to see them wouldn’t rack up 90 pages of comments.
Hmmmm. Lots of unsubstantiated black and white assertions, insistence on “rights” and “wrongs”, and starting off your comment by introducing your supposed political persuasion when the topic really isn’t a political one at all. Are you SURE you’re “very liberal”?
All we have is his statements which were concerning about his actions and the short video. I would like to see the before and after and if anyone was a witness to hear from them. Everyone is jumping to judgement from a short video and his statement and there is clearly more to this story. You can just look at a short video and pass judgement but I will not. I want to really know what was said between them and not just his version. He made himself look to be a good guy but a good guy doesn't harass a women in a park because he didn't get what he wants. He doesn't carry dog treats and call over a dog if he was not looking for drama. Why did he call the dog over and offer treats? What was his plan with that dog? There are too many questions not answered. You don't at all want to see what happened before and after in the video that wasn't shown? Why? Its easier to scream and blame her. What if more videos come out showing the entire incident?
Let me try this again: Can you —or anyone — substantiate the assertion that there even IS a longer video? If not, all they”what if’s” and speculations are just imaginative projections at best.
We don't know if there is or is not. He isn't showing it. And, all we have is his account of what happened. There are no witnesses and she has not made a statement of what happened, only an apology. But, if you look at his statement, there are several red flags of his behaviors that are concerning. It isn't good judgement for a man to approach a woman in a park, especially if no one else is around and then get into an altercation with her. He clearly set it up as he stated he called her dog over and offered it treats. That dog was reacting to him calling the dog over and offering treats. She was preventing him from taking her dog.
If this were a child, would you be ok with a stranger calling over the child and offering it treats?
yeah, but it’s not a child. Are you one of those idiots who thinks a dog is equivalent to a child? It’s property and it has no rights.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.
The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.
Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.
I had the same thought.
White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.
Black man DIES - 51 pages.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.
The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.
Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.
I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.
He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.
I have a really neat idea! Why don’t you go back and support each one of the assertions you’ve made with actual data? Maybe start with the one about how there’s a longer video out there. How do you know this? Have you seen it? Can you provide a link? Otherwise you’re just repeating things that you’re fabricating — for whatever reasons. How about some sort of data to support every time you used the words “clear” and “clearly”? Hint:Most things that are as “clear” as you seem to see them wouldn’t rack up 90 pages of comments.
Hmmmm. Lots of unsubstantiated black and white assertions, insistence on “rights” and “wrongs”, and starting off your comment by introducing your supposed political persuasion when the topic really isn’t a political one at all. Are you SURE you’re “very liberal”?
All we have is his statements which were concerning about his actions and the short video. I would like to see the before and after and if anyone was a witness to hear from them. Everyone is jumping to judgement from a short video and his statement and there is clearly more to this story. You can just look at a short video and pass judgement but I will not. I want to really know what was said between them and not just his version. He made himself look to be a good guy but a good guy doesn't harass a women in a park because he didn't get what he wants. He doesn't carry dog treats and call over a dog if he was not looking for drama. Why did he call the dog over and offer treats? What was his plan with that dog? There are too many questions not answered. You don't at all want to see what happened before and after in the video that wasn't shown? Why? Its easier to scream and blame her. What if more videos come out showing the entire incident?
Let me try this again: Can you —or anyone — substantiate the assertion that there even IS a longer video? If not, all they”what if’s” and speculations are just imaginative projections at best.
We don't know if there is or is not. He isn't showing it. And, all we have is his account of what happened. There are no witnesses and she has not made a statement of what happened, only an apology. But, if you look at his statement, there are several red flags of his behaviors that are concerning. It isn't good judgement for a man to approach a woman in a park, especially if no one else is around and then get into an altercation with her. He clearly set it up as he stated he called her dog over and offered it treats. That dog was reacting to him calling the dog over and offering treats. She was preventing him from taking her dog.
If this were a child, would you be ok with a stranger calling over the child and offering it treats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.
The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.
Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.
I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.
He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.
I have a really neat idea! Why don’t you go back and support each one of the assertions you’ve made with actual data? Maybe start with the one about how there’s a longer video out there. How do you know this? Have you seen it? Can you provide a link? Otherwise you’re just repeating things that you’re fabricating — for whatever reasons. How about some sort of data to support every time you used the words “clear” and “clearly”? Hint:Most things that are as “clear” as you seem to see them wouldn’t rack up 90 pages of comments.
Hmmmm. Lots of unsubstantiated black and white assertions, insistence on “rights” and “wrongs”, and starting off your comment by introducing your supposed political persuasion when the topic really isn’t a political one at all. Are you SURE you’re “very liberal”?
All we have is his statements which were concerning about his actions and the short video. I would like to see the before and after and if anyone was a witness to hear from them. Everyone is jumping to judgement from a short video and his statement and there is clearly more to this story. You can just look at a short video and pass judgement but I will not. I want to really know what was said between them and not just his version. He made himself look to be a good guy but a good guy doesn't harass a women in a park because he didn't get what he wants. He doesn't carry dog treats and call over a dog if he was not looking for drama. Why did he call the dog over and offer treats? What was his plan with that dog? There are too many questions not answered. You don't at all want to see what happened before and after in the video that wasn't shown? Why? Its easier to scream and blame her. What if more videos come out showing the entire incident?
Let me try this again: Can you —or anyone — substantiate the assertion that there even IS a longer video? If not, all they”what if’s” and speculations are just imaginative projections at best.
We don't know if there is or is not. He isn't showing it. And, all we have is his account of what happened. There are no witnesses and she has not made a statement of what happened, only an apology. But, if you look at his statement, there are several red flags of his behaviors that are concerning. It isn't good judgement for a man to approach a woman in a park, especially if no one else is around and then get into an altercation with her. He clearly set it up as he stated he called her dog over and offered it treats. That dog was reacting to him calling the dog over and offering treats. She was preventing him from taking her dog.
If this were a child, would you be ok with a stranger calling over the child and offering it treats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.
The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.
Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.
I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.
He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.
I agree with you, but I'm a conservative. Well, I'm actually a moderate who these days considers myself a conservative because the left went so far. But it does seem like you're on the wrong side![]()
I think she was more wrong than he was, though, both for the dog off leash and the specific references to his race in her threats, even though he clearly had a chip on his shoulder. Neither of them were behaving like well adjusted people.
There was zero excuse for the racist remarks but his behavior was not appropriate either and it very much looked like he was looking for a fight. One or both should have acted like grown ups and when he didn't get what he wanted walk away or if she was threatened get on her phone to have someone on the line and walk away. Why he had to pull out his phone and engage or why she had to engage, I don't get. But, him admitting to trying to call the dog over and offering the dog treats without her consent is pretty telling given he has clearly done this before. If this was a child, would we be ok with him calling over a child for treats? Central Park is pretty big. There was plenty of space for both of them. He just insisted he have her spot and she wasn't welcome there with her dog. Even if that dog was on a leash he probably would have wanted it gone as it bothered his birds. He should have equal employment and social consequences.