Anonymous wrote:The way some posters are reacting, it is a wonder two bicycle shop owners ever took their crazy contraption out to Kill Devil Hills in NC.

None of the people are stupid anymore than those who strive to go to space.

Just because you would never do it, doesn’t mean others shouldn’t!

I hope they rose to the surface and just haven’t been found yet.

These guys weren't inventors. They were tourists.

It's not even like Everest, where people have to train and be fit beyond imagining. These people just wrote a check.

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Anonymous wrote:My tween thinks that maybe someone wanted the billionaire dead. He has a point. How can they not know where they are when they have the exact coordinates of the wreck and of where they last were? The submersible sank like a stone in the ocean (literally) from a specific location. Obviously, it is on the ocean floor at or very near to that exact spot.

No, he doesn’t have a point. Has he never heard of ocean currents?

This thing weighs 12 tons and is not buoyant. It would take a pretty major current to displace it THAT much.

DP. Yeah, I’m not really understanding the whole “search area the size of Connecticut” thing. I get that it could have moved somewhat from where it was dropped but the idea that ocean currents would push it 150 miles across the ocean floor seems crazy. Maybe I’m just not understanding how strong the currents are at that depth?

Anonymous wrote:Stockton Rush and the engineering of this thing reminds me a little of that tragic Schlitterbahn Water Park incident. I read a lot about how the park owners went about designing and building that ride, and it was a crazy, unscientific process of trial and error. Engineers were horrified by it.

That was horrifying. I took a class on the ethics of engineering as a requirement for my mechanical engineering degree. We studied classic engineering mistakes like the Kansas City Hyatt regency walkway, Tacoma narrows bridge, challenger shuttle, and bhopal. Since then, there have been so many other disasters that could have been added to that curriculum - surf side condo collapse, thane building collapse, Katrina levee failures, florida pedestrian bridge, metro overpass in Mexico, Mississippi River bridge in MN, sampoong dept store in Seoul. And if implosion occurred- the titan sub.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: why doesn’t Russia deploy a nuclear sub deep underwater near the wreck of the Titanic, since the entire US military seems wholly incapable of finding anything there?

They dont GAF?

+1 nuclear subs don't go 12000+ft deep which is where the capsule/Titanic is (typically 3000ft at best).

and even if Russia (and the US and Canada) did have submarines that could go deeper than 3000ft, I doubt they'd expose their secret weapons and won't play their cards for this debacle.

Right, military does not disclose how deep the subs go. Classified info and they’re not going to blow it on this.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: why doesn’t Russia deploy a nuclear sub deep underwater near the wreck of the Titanic, since the entire US military seems wholly incapable of finding anything there?

They dont GAF?

+1 nuclear subs don't go 12000+ft deep which is where the capsule/Titanic is (typically 3000ft at best).

and even if Russia (and the US and Canada) did have submarines that could go deeper than 3000ft, I doubt they'd expose their secret weapons and won't play their cards for this debacle.

I’m still stuck on the fact that any one of those guys could have quite literally contracted a commercially rated submersible and lived to tell the tale.

Why risk the backyard junk rigged sub?
There was an expert on the news this morning talking about how bad it would be for them if they were on the surface since they aren't strapped in they'd be rolling and bouncing around non stop as would all the waste products (urine feces vomit).

8:53 here and I think that those who are triggered by this are probably imagining themselves in the submarine. If you’re doing that, practice some self-care. Put your phone away if you can (sometimes I give mine to my husband or kids), distract yourself with a fun hobby, another problem you have, a non-heated debate with your husband, cookies candy crush, whatever. You need to get away from thinking about this and you need to do it in a way that doesn’t require a lot of self-control. Take care of yourself.

Anonymous wrote:Serious question: why doesn’t Russia deploy a nuclear sub deep underwater near the wreck of the Titanic, since the entire US military seems wholly incapable of finding anything there?

They dont GAF?

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Anonymous wrote:My tween thinks that maybe someone wanted the billionaire dead. He has a point. How can they not know where they are when they have the exact coordinates of the wreck and of where they last were? The submersible sank like a stone in the ocean (literally) from a specific location. Obviously, it is on the ocean floor at or very near to that exact spot.

No, he doesn’t have a point. Has he never heard of ocean currents?

This thing weighs 12 tons and is not buoyant. It would take a pretty major current to displace it THAT much.

Anything is possible in this rampant inflationary environment.

Anonymous wrote:/\ yeah that’s chat gpt. Easy to spot. Thanks for the levity pp!

Yeah, except it wasn't. Everyone thinks they know how to spot it but they're often wrong.

Incredible

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Anonymous wrote:My tween thinks that maybe someone wanted the billionaire dead. He has a point. How can they not know where they are when they have the exact coordinates of the wreck and of where they last were? The submersible sank like a stone in the ocean (literally) from a specific location. Obviously, it is on the ocean floor at or very near to that exact spot.

No, he doesn’t have a point. Has he never heard of ocean currents?

This thing weighs 12 tons and is not buoyant. It would take a pretty major current to displace it THAT much.

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Anonymous wrote:is anyone keeping vigil tonight? i can't sleep thinking about the whereabouts of the submersible...

Ugh. Stop trying to make this about yourself.

Ugh. Stop being such a cruel, selfish jerk.

You need to be evaluated if you are sleepless over a bunch of idiot billionaires getting their rocks off doing dumb stuff.

I think that’s rude but I admit I do not understand the level of worry and empathy that these people are getting. I have childhood trauma issues and sometimes I have a big emotional reaction to things that don’t impact me (which I will not recount here) and I have a hard time pushing them out of my mind. But I suppose a lot of that is driven by the injustice of things. I don’t want these guys to die but I’m not sad about it in the same way I am sad about bad things that happen to more vulnerable people. If somebody with a stunning amount I’d privilege takes a huge risk for funsies and then something bad happens to them? That’s not a tragedy.

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Anonymous wrote:is anyone keeping vigil tonight? i can't sleep thinking about the whereabouts of the submersible...

Ugh. Stop trying to make this about yourself.

Ugh. Stop being such a cruel, selfish jerk.

You need to be evaluated if you are sleepless over a bunch of idiot billionaires getting their rocks off doing dumb stuff.

I'm not the poster who was losing sleep. Just an observation about your post: you must be a miserable a$$hole of a human being.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if this has been mentioned: Wife of missing sub pilot Stockton Rush descended from Isador and Ida Straus, first-class passengers who died on Titanic”

Yes, a PO gave a really good background on it upthread.