Anonymous
07/13/2022 12:13
Subject: Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
I find it shocking that people are still trying to exonerate the cops who utterly failed here. There is so much evidence the cops did not do their jobs at all.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 12:04
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every time more information comes out about this it is more infuriating. I wish they could bring criminal charges against the police in charge. These families must just constantly be retraumatized by how many times their little children could have been saved.
Police have no legal duty to save lives.
In this situation police training is to go in and take out the shooter. It’s the expectation that you will use deadly force and as such will place yourself in harms way. The police sat outside an unlocked room while kids were murdered. The rooms only lock from the outside. This is a dereliction of duty.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 11:56
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!
Yes not the cop who saw an armed man about to enter the school and refuse to shoot or the scores of police who sat on their a$$es. The list is long and it does not include a teacher who “propped opened” a door. This is just more BS put out by Texas police and conservatives. Next you will blame the kids.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 11:51
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every time more information comes out about this it is more infuriating. I wish they could bring criminal charges against the police in charge. These families must just constantly be retraumatized by how many times their little children could have been saved.
Police have no legal duty to save lives.
But don’t they have a legal duty to stop someone from committing crimes? Don’t they have a duty to stop an active gunman? At the very least, don’t they have a duty to follow their training, which teaches them in absolute terms to stop school shooters as soon as possible, not wait for backup or supplies? If they’d done those things, lives would’ve been saved, so I guess saving children is a bonus rather than a duty.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 11:44
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every time more information comes out about this it is more infuriating. I wish they could bring criminal charges against the police in charge. These families must just constantly be retraumatized by how many times their little children could have been saved.
Police have no legal duty to save lives.
You are correct. But it is still hard to accept that they stood around inside the school for over an hour (with at least one LEO checking their phone for score updates or whatever) and did...nothing. I mean, at minimum they could have stepped aside and let parents who wanted to retrieve their kids go in and do so--at their own risk. Regardless of what happens to these specific LEOs (nothing, I'm sure), the overall image of LEOs has forever been tarnished in the eyes of the public.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 11:23
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:Every time more information comes out about this it is more infuriating. I wish they could bring criminal charges against the police in charge. These families must just constantly be retraumatized by how many times their little children could have been saved.
Police have no legal duty to save lives.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 11:12
Subject: Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
The cop is looking at his phone during that?!
Anonymous
07/13/2022 10:58
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!
Do the cops hold any blame for not intervening earlier?
No the blame lies solely with the perpetrator. Period. End of story.
He fired off 100 rounds in two minutes before even the first police arrived. The majority of the kids were already dead or dying and a faster intervention may not have saved anyone. No one on the DCUM knows for sure.
I also don’t blame the weapon, but the shooter.
All you have to look at is what happened in Bath, Mi in 1927 where a demented person killed more children than Uvalde. Every death is tragic and believe it or not, I am for some forms of gun control, but eliminating the method of murder is really not going to reduce the crime. Demented folks will always find a way.
Timothy McViegh certainly did without ever firing a shot.
Wow, you'll really twist yourself in a pretzel finding a way to relieve the cops - whose whole job is to stop people from killing other people, and who literally ran the other way to avoid doing their job - and the gun - the piece of weaponry used to commit mass slaughter after mass slaughter, including this one - of any blame whatsoever. That's one twisted mindset you've got there.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 10:37
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:a faster intervention may not have saved anyone.
Absolutely false. There was a kid calling 911 from the room with her dead teacher’s phone who didn’t make it because the police were still standing in the hall fully armed and protected. Protocol and training since Columbine, so probably for some of these officers entire lives, has been to go in to stop the killing, then stop the dying. Stop your gaslighting.
+1
She called several times and gave updates on how many people were still alive. And they were standing outside the door the whole time.
Y’all will defend the police until death. They have blood on their hands on this one.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 10:02
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!
Do the cops hold any blame for not intervening earlier?
No the blame lies solely with the perpetrator. Period. End of story.
He fired off 100 rounds in two minutes before even the first police arrived. The majority of the kids were already dead or dying and a faster intervention may not have saved anyone. No one on the DCUM knows for sure.
I also don’t blame the weapon, but the shooter.
All you have to look at is what happened in Bath, Mi in 1927 where a demented person killed more children than Uvalde. Every death is tragic and believe it or not, I am for some forms of gun control, but eliminating the method of murder is really not going to reduce the crime. Demented folks will always find a way.
Timothy McViegh certainly did without ever firing a shot.
Maybe not but do you know what definitely did not save anyone? A group of armed law enforcement officers standing in a hallway for over an hour. Law enforcement's response, or lack thereof, is completely indefensible.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 09:54
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!
Do the cops hold any blame for not intervening earlier?
No the blame lies solely with the perpetrator. Period. End of story.
He fired off 100 rounds in two minutes before even the first police arrived. The majority of the kids were already dead or dying and a faster intervention may not have saved anyone. No one on the DCUM knows for sure.
I also don’t blame the weapon, but the shooter.
All you have to look at is what happened in Bath, Mi in 1927 where a demented person killed more children than Uvalde. Every death is tragic and believe it or not, I am for some forms of gun control, but eliminating the method of murder is really not going to reduce the crime. Demented folks will always find a way.
Timothy McViegh certainly did without ever firing a shot.
But whenever it is harder to get something, there are more chances of an intervention, that someone will notice something and speak up, etc. Where would this loner kid have found all this body armor, ammunition, and military-grade guns were he not able to purchase legally and easily?
As an aside, there is also a lot of gun violence that is not necessarily premeditated, for which the presence of a gun escalated violence that may have previously been limited to a fist fight. It’s not a coincidence that there is a correlation between gun per capita and homicide rates.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 09:53
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
a faster intervention may not have saved anyone.
Absolutely false. There was a kid calling 911 from the room with her dead teacher’s phone who didn’t make it because the police were still standing in the hall fully armed and protected. Protocol and training since Columbine, so probably for some of these officers entire lives, has been to go in to stop the killing, then stop the dying. Stop your gaslighting.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 09:46
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!
Do the cops hold any blame for not intervening earlier?
No the blame lies solely with the perpetrator. Period. End of story.
He fired off 100 rounds in two minutes before even the first police arrived. The majority of the kids were already dead or dying and a faster intervention may not have saved anyone. No one on the DCUM knows for sure.
I also don’t blame the weapon, but the shooter.
All you have to look at is what happened in Bath, Mi in 1927 where a demented person killed more children than Uvalde. Every death is tragic and believe it or not, I am for some forms of gun control, but eliminating the method of murder is really not going to reduce the crime. Demented folks will always find a way.
Timothy McViegh certainly did without ever firing a shot.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 06:47
Subject: Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:So you’re telling me that the “good guys with guns” are incapable of handling the situation? Can we now put to rest the myth of a school shooter being stopped by a “good guy with a gun”? Clearly this is a fantasy of cosplaying tough guy gun owners across America.
Oh and also if trained police officers could find a solution, why do we expect teachers to? Teachers are trained to take down a shooter cops are, and failed.
Can we just put an end to these two solutions purposed by morons to solve school shootings. So stupid. SMH.
The only solution is to ban assault/military grade weapons, now. But I know they won’t because punisher-obsessed men have to cosplay and do not care about others.
Good guyss with a gun is a myth and we did not have nearly so many mass shootings nor this dangerous idiocy of protesting at state capitols armed with rifles when the typical rifle was a wooden-stocked hunting rifle. Enterf AR-15ss and every demented moron thinks they are Rambo. Ban them.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 06:41
Subject: Re:Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school
Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!
Do the cops hold any blame for not intervening earlier?