Anonymous
08/25/2023 12:30
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
There was no plans for a theme park until Walt Disney died.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 12:25
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Desantis says, "Can't we just get along.."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/desantis-disney-lawsuit-end-00111199
He wants Disney to drop their lawsuit against FL. I guess it's not a good look for him to go up against Mickey.
Disney does not have a lawsuit against Florida.
Desantis is the one while described it that way. The suit is against Desantis’s new crony board for nullifying the contracts signed by the previous board. Desantis bragged about his petty fight with Disney in his campaign but he must have figured out how stupid that is as a political strategy.
'Nullifying the contracts' means they canceled the previous board's handing over to Disney total control of everything the board does *'until the death of the last defendant of King Charles'. This is what people are supporting because they hate DeSantis.
If Disney's actions are allowed to stand, then your HOA could hand over all its powers to a private company forever.
Another analogy would be Democrats winning elections in 2024, winning the House, but on New Year's Eve, Republicans in the House pass a resolution giving all their powers to ExxonMobil.
^^Republicans complaining about corporations with no sense of irony. Neither of these analogies is even remotely correct.
In the first, the HOA would be handing its powers back to the homeowners forever, not an unrelated third party. Because Disney:Reedy Creek Improvement District::Homeowners:HOA
In the second, the articles of incorporation are analogous to the constitution. Reedy Creek followed its articles of Incorporation. The House Republicans, in your flawed analogy, did not follow the process for amending the constitution.
Why am I unsurprised that conservatives can't construct a proper analogy.
DP. My understanding is that Disney created Reedy Creek and everything there out of whole cloth. Prior to Disney there was nothing there but undeveloped swamp land and a completely uninvolved county government. And all throughout the history of Reedy Creek, Disney was Reedy Creek, Disney built literally everything there. What's happened is that Florida and this new group of hand-picked DeSantis cronies stepped in and ripped it away from them. Florida and this new group wresting control away from Disney is a new, unrelated party and what they are doing is basically theft.
Disney didn’t want the cheap motels and strip clubs and shady vendors that are common in Florida tourist areas right outside their gates. That’s what Reedy Creek is for, to Disneyfy a buffer zone from the real Florida.
The independent district was for the purpose of building a city, not a theme park. They've been getting away with it for 50 years.
That doesn’t contradict what I said. They want a Disneyfied city outside their park, not the trashy development common in most Florida tourist areas.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 12:08
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Desantis says, "Can't we just get along.."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/desantis-disney-lawsuit-end-00111199
He wants Disney to drop their lawsuit against FL. I guess it's not a good look for him to go up against Mickey.
Disney does not have a lawsuit against Florida.
Desantis is the one while described it that way. The suit is against Desantis’s new crony board for nullifying the contracts signed by the previous board. Desantis bragged about his petty fight with Disney in his campaign but he must have figured out how stupid that is as a political strategy.
'Nullifying the contracts' means they canceled the previous board's handing over to Disney total control of everything the board does *'until the death of the last defendant of King Charles'. This is what people are supporting because they hate DeSantis.
If Disney's actions are allowed to stand, then your HOA could hand over all its powers to a private company forever.
Another analogy would be Democrats winning elections in 2024, winning the House, but on New Year's Eve, Republicans in the House pass a resolution giving all their powers to ExxonMobil.
^^Republicans complaining about corporations with no sense of irony. Neither of these analogies is even remotely correct.
In the first, the HOA would be handing its powers back to the homeowners forever, not an unrelated third party. Because Disney:Reedy Creek Improvement District::Homeowners:HOA
In the second, the articles of incorporation are analogous to the constitution. Reedy Creek followed its articles of Incorporation. The House Republicans, in your flawed analogy, did not follow the process for amending the constitution.
Why am I unsurprised that conservatives can't construct a proper analogy.
Disney is not the only 'homeowner', just the largest. That's how the new district was able to cut the tax rate, by not paying for Disney's stuff.
Also, the 'HOA' here was created by the state to act on behalf of the state. This district cannot then hand over its powers to anyone.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 12:04
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Desantis says, "Can't we just get along.."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/desantis-disney-lawsuit-end-00111199
He wants Disney to drop their lawsuit against FL. I guess it's not a good look for him to go up against Mickey.
Disney does not have a lawsuit against Florida.
Desantis is the one while described it that way. The suit is against Desantis’s new crony board for nullifying the contracts signed by the previous board. Desantis bragged about his petty fight with Disney in his campaign but he must have figured out how stupid that is as a political strategy.
'Nullifying the contracts' means they canceled the previous board's handing over to Disney total control of everything the board does *'until the death of the last defendant of King Charles'. This is what people are supporting because they hate DeSantis.
If Disney's actions are allowed to stand, then your HOA could hand over all its powers to a private company forever.
Another analogy would be Democrats winning elections in 2024, winning the House, but on New Year's Eve, Republicans in the House pass a resolution giving all their powers to ExxonMobil.
^^Republicans complaining about corporations with no sense of irony. Neither of these analogies is even remotely correct.
In the first, the HOA would be handing its powers back to the homeowners forever, not an unrelated third party. Because Disney:Reedy Creek Improvement District::Homeowners:HOA
In the second, the articles of incorporation are analogous to the constitution. Reedy Creek followed its articles of Incorporation. The House Republicans, in your flawed analogy, did not follow the process for amending the constitution.
Why am I unsurprised that conservatives can't construct a proper analogy.
DP. My understanding is that Disney created Reedy Creek and everything there out of whole cloth. Prior to Disney there was nothing there but undeveloped swamp land and a completely uninvolved county government. And all throughout the history of Reedy Creek, Disney was Reedy Creek, Disney built literally everything there. What's happened is that Florida and this new group of hand-picked DeSantis cronies stepped in and ripped it away from them. Florida and this new group wresting control away from Disney is a new, unrelated party and what they are doing is basically theft.
They should have tried that argument in court rather than the 1st amendment retaliation. Disney did not build everything there, but a lot of it, and the rest would be worthless without Disney. What was taken away from Disney is the ability to ignore zoning and getting permits, along with the ability to charge other businesses for their expenses.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 12:02
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:I don't see how Disney giving passes to employees is any different from when pools and parks give reduced fees to employees and local residents
It is the district government controlled by Disney giving out passes. This is more money for Disney on government dime. Think Trump charging Secret Service for stay at MarALago.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 11:56
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Desantis says, "Can't we just get along.."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/desantis-disney-lawsuit-end-00111199
He wants Disney to drop their lawsuit against FL. I guess it's not a good look for him to go up against Mickey.
Disney does not have a lawsuit against Florida.
Desantis is the one while described it that way. The suit is against Desantis’s new crony board for nullifying the contracts signed by the previous board. Desantis bragged about his petty fight with Disney in his campaign but he must have figured out how stupid that is as a political strategy.
'Nullifying the contracts' means they canceled the previous board's handing over to Disney total control of everything the board does *'until the death of the last defendant of King Charles'. This is what people are supporting because they hate DeSantis.
If Disney's actions are allowed to stand, then your HOA could hand over all its powers to a private company forever.
Another analogy would be Democrats winning elections in 2024, winning the House, but on New Year's Eve, Republicans in the House pass a resolution giving all their powers to ExxonMobil.
^^Republicans complaining about corporations with no sense of irony. Neither of these analogies is even remotely correct.
In the first, the HOA would be handing its powers back to the homeowners forever, not an unrelated third party. Because Disney:Reedy Creek Improvement District::Homeowners:HOA
In the second, the articles of incorporation are analogous to the constitution. Reedy Creek followed its articles of Incorporation. The House Republicans, in your flawed analogy, did not follow the process for amending the constitution.
Why am I unsurprised that conservatives can't construct a proper analogy.
DP. My understanding is that Disney created Reedy Creek and everything there out of whole cloth. Prior to Disney there was nothing there but undeveloped swamp land and a completely uninvolved county government. And all throughout the history of Reedy Creek, Disney was Reedy Creek, Disney built literally everything there. What's happened is that Florida and this new group of hand-picked DeSantis cronies stepped in and ripped it away from them. Florida and this new group wresting control away from Disney is a new, unrelated party and what they are doing is basically theft.
Disney didn’t want the cheap motels and strip clubs and shady vendors that are common in Florida tourist areas right outside their gates. That’s what Reedy Creek is for, to Disneyfy a buffer zone from the real Florida.
The independent district was for the purpose of building a city, not a theme park. They've been getting away with it for 50 years.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 11:52
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Desantis says, "Can't we just get along.."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/desantis-disney-lawsuit-end-00111199
He wants Disney to drop their lawsuit against FL. I guess it's not a good look for him to go up against Mickey.
Disney does not have a lawsuit against Florida.
Desantis is the one while described it that way. The suit is against Desantis’s new crony board for nullifying the contracts signed by the previous board. Desantis bragged about his petty fight with Disney in his campaign but he must have figured out how stupid that is as a political strategy.
'Nullifying the contracts' means they canceled the previous board's handing over to Disney total control of everything the board does *'until the death of the last defendant of King Charles'. This is what people are supporting because they hate DeSantis.
If Disney's actions are allowed to stand, then your HOA could hand over all its powers to a private company forever.
Another analogy would be Democrats winning elections in 2024, winning the House, but on New Year's Eve, Republicans in the House pass a resolution giving all their powers to ExxonMobil.
^^Republicans complaining about corporations with no sense of irony. Neither of these analogies is even remotely correct.
In the first, the HOA would be handing its powers back to the homeowners forever, not an unrelated third party. Because Disney:Reedy Creek Improvement District::Homeowners:HOA
In the second, the articles of incorporation are analogous to the constitution. Reedy Creek followed its articles of Incorporation. The House Republicans, in your flawed analogy, did not follow the process for amending the constitution.
Why am I unsurprised that conservatives can't construct a proper analogy.
DP. My understanding is that Disney created Reedy Creek and everything there out of whole cloth. Prior to Disney there was nothing there but undeveloped swamp land and a completely uninvolved county government. And all throughout the history of Reedy Creek, Disney was Reedy Creek, Disney built literally everything there. What's happened is that Florida and this new group of hand-picked DeSantis cronies stepped in and ripped it away from them. Florida and this new group wresting control away from Disney is a new, unrelated party and what they are doing is basically theft.
Disney didn’t want the cheap motels and strip clubs and shady vendors that are common in Florida tourist areas right outside their gates. That’s what Reedy Creek is for, to Disneyfy a buffer zone from the real Florida.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 11:41
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Desantis says, "Can't we just get along.."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/desantis-disney-lawsuit-end-00111199
He wants Disney to drop their lawsuit against FL. I guess it's not a good look for him to go up against Mickey.
Disney does not have a lawsuit against Florida.
Desantis is the one while described it that way. The suit is against Desantis’s new crony board for nullifying the contracts signed by the previous board. Desantis bragged about his petty fight with Disney in his campaign but he must have figured out how stupid that is as a political strategy.
'Nullifying the contracts' means they canceled the previous board's handing over to Disney total control of everything the board does *'until the death of the last defendant of King Charles'. This is what people are supporting because they hate DeSantis.
They are legal contracts and they were executed because the Governor had announced publicly that he was creating a new board of cronies for the purpose of politically retaliating against Disney for opposing his homophobic agenda.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 11:37
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Jawboning is 1A infringement. Not sure why everyone keeps forgetting this.
What is jawboning?
Anonymous
08/25/2023 07:41
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Desantis says, "Can't we just get along.."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/desantis-disney-lawsuit-end-00111199
He wants Disney to drop their lawsuit against FL. I guess it's not a good look for him to go up against Mickey.
Disney does not have a lawsuit against Florida.
Desantis is the one while described it that way. The suit is against Desantis’s new crony board for nullifying the contracts signed by the previous board. Desantis bragged about his petty fight with Disney in his campaign but he must have figured out how stupid that is as a political strategy.
'Nullifying the contracts' means they canceled the previous board's handing over to Disney total control of everything the board does *'until the death of the last defendant of King Charles'. This is what people are supporting because they hate DeSantis.
If Disney's actions are allowed to stand, then your HOA could hand over all its powers to a private company forever.
Another analogy would be Democrats winning elections in 2024, winning the House, but on New Year's Eve, Republicans in the House pass a resolution giving all their powers to ExxonMobil.
^^Republicans complaining about corporations with no sense of irony. Neither of these analogies is even remotely correct.
In the first, the HOA would be handing its powers back to the homeowners forever, not an unrelated third party. Because Disney:Reedy Creek Improvement District::Homeowners:HOA
In the second, the articles of incorporation are analogous to the constitution. Reedy Creek followed its articles of Incorporation. The House Republicans, in your flawed analogy, did not follow the process for amending the constitution.
Why am I unsurprised that conservatives can't construct a proper analogy.
DP. My understanding is that Disney created Reedy Creek and everything there out of whole cloth. Prior to Disney there was nothing there but undeveloped swamp land and a completely uninvolved county government. And all throughout the history of Reedy Creek, Disney was Reedy Creek, Disney built literally everything there. What's happened is that Florida and this new group of hand-picked DeSantis cronies stepped in and ripped it away from them. Florida and this new group wresting control away from Disney is a new, unrelated party and what they are doing is basically theft.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 07:28
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They might be great in California with laws of intellectual property, but this legal team has no knowledge of Florida special districts. Disney has a horribly weak case.
Oh not many people are putting money of DeSantis to win this. Disney makes more in profit vs what Florida brings in in taxes.
Disney likely to lose on summary judgment. The countersuit is just for some media points.
Heh no
Anonymous
08/25/2023 07:20
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
I am confused about one thing, and hope a lawyer can help clear it up.
Disney filed a counter suit against CFTOD, asking for damages. It’s the same case number as the CFTOD v Disney lawsuit. I thought only plaintiffs could seek damages. Is the counter suit a separate suit, or the same one?
Disney filed a counter suit against CFTOD, asking for damages. It’s the same case number as the CFTOD v Disney lawsuit. I thought only plaintiffs could seek damages. Is the counter suit a separate suit, or the same one?
Anonymous
08/25/2023 07:16
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
I don't see how Disney giving passes to employees is any different from when pools and parks give reduced fees to employees and local residents
Anonymous
08/25/2023 06:14
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Desantis says, "Can't we just get along.."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/desantis-disney-lawsuit-end-00111199
He wants Disney to drop their lawsuit against FL. I guess it's not a good look for him to go up against Mickey.
Disney does not have a lawsuit against Florida.
Desantis is the one while described it that way. The suit is against Desantis’s new crony board for nullifying the contracts signed by the previous board. Desantis bragged about his petty fight with Disney in his campaign but he must have figured out how stupid that is as a political strategy.
'Nullifying the contracts' means they canceled the previous board's handing over to Disney total control of everything the board does *'until the death of the last defendant of King Charles'. This is what people are supporting because they hate DeSantis.
If Disney's actions are allowed to stand, then your HOA could hand over all its powers to a private company forever.
Another analogy would be Democrats winning elections in 2024, winning the House, but on New Year's Eve, Republicans in the House pass a resolution giving all their powers to ExxonMobil.
^^Republicans complaining about corporations with no sense of irony. Neither of these analogies is even remotely correct.
In the first, the HOA would be handing its powers back to the homeowners forever, not an unrelated third party. Because Disney:Reedy Creek Improvement District::Homeowners:HOA
In the second, the articles of incorporation are analogous to the constitution. Reedy Creek followed its articles of Incorporation. The House Republicans, in your flawed analogy, did not follow the process for amending the constitution.
Why am I unsurprised that conservatives can't construct a proper analogy.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 05:18
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Jawboning is 1A infringement. Not sure why everyone keeps forgetting this.