Anonymous wrote:

Jen has inverted the lesson of the fall in Genesis. Trust your own heart. Trust your own gut. Lean into your own understanding.

Bite the apple. And bite the apple deliciously.

It’s an anti Christian message for any of you who believe that stuff.

Anonymous wrote:Listened to Alisa Childers’ podcast review of Jen’s book. She made a really great point. Jen’s new anthem is to follow your heart and do what you want. The podcast brought up a couple that divorced when the husband announced he was gay (and in a relationship with a man). Apparently, Jen publicly applauded this man for following his heart. A cheating husband…..

Anonymous wrote:JFC every woman is a Karen these days?

STFU you’re just saying nonsense to defend cruelty.

Anonymous wrote:

I hadn't realized how many woke Karens hung around this thread.

Hi Tina!

I hadn't realized how many woke Karens hung around this thread.

Hi Brandon and Tina. Did you guys seriously just use ChatGPT to help write this sorry excuse for your bad behavior? It really looks that way.

Thanks so for the cultural history lesson, truly groundbreaking stuff. The issue isn’t whether Mexican culture is rich or meaningful (it obviously is). The problem is a bunch of white people playing dress-up as their idea of Cholos which means mimicking the most stereotyped, criminalized version of that culture. It’s not appreciation when your costume relies on caricatures that have been used for decades to demonize actual Latino communities. This is literally no different than white people participating in a gangsta and thug party. Neither version is ok.

You can write three paragraphs about César Chávez and lowrider culture, but it doesn’t erase the fact that you're cosplaying built on stereotypes that have been weaponized against Mexican-Americans. Let’s not pretend the “cholo look” exists in a vacuum. That image is the same one cops and media have used for years to criminalize brown kids. So when you turn it into a costume, it is not celebrating the culture, you’re recycling a racist caricature. And please, spare us the “we had a Latino friend there” defense. You don’t get cultural immunity by association.

You’re literally arguing that the problem is people connecting Chicano culture to gangs while defending your decision to dress up as the most stereotyped version of that culture. And then photographing yourselves with an ICE agent for laughs as if that is not a huge trauma for the very community you're lecturing us about.

So yeah. you don’t get points for being racist, getting called on it, and then trying to moralize about it afterward. Just like you don't get points for cheating on your wife, getting outed for it, and then trying to minimize and blame-shift.




There's so much ignorance on this thread. What IS racist or at minimum ignorant is a bunch of non-latino's negatively and intuitively connecting a subculture within the Latino/Latina culture with gang bangers and illegal immigrants.

Tina certainly could have explained it more for context, but If you read in her comments, this was hosted by a Latino friend as a themed birthday party celebrating him and where he came from.

I agree the ICE costume comes across as insensitive, but have you ever been responsible for a costume choices someone else wears? It obviously wasn't an ICE party or a deportation party it was a birthday party.

Read up maybe this will help you...

Chicano culture is not synonymous with gang culture or illegal immigration. In fact, it’s a rich, deeply rooted American subculture that emerged from Mexican-American identity, particularly in the Southwest (especially Southern California, Texas, and Arizona). Here’s the breakdown:

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1. What Chicano Culture Really Is

Chicano refers to people of Mexican descent who were born or raised in the United States — not immigrants. The term grew out of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement as an expression of cultural pride and political empowerment.
It celebrates:
• Family and faith
• Community activism and social justice
• Lowrider and car club culture (a form of creative pride, art, and self-expression)
• Distinct fashion, music, art, and tattoo styles
• Mexican-American heritage — blending Mexican roots with American life.

In short, Chicano culture is about identity, art, resistance, and pride, not crime.

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2. The Misconception About Crime or Immigration

Because some gang members have historically come from Chicano neighborhoods — often due to poverty, discrimination, and systemic neglect — the media has sometimes blurred the line between Chicano culture and gang life. But they are not the same thing.
• Illegal immigrants are people who came to the U.S. without authorization, from any Latin American country — that’s a legal/immigration status, not a culture.
• Gang members exist in many ethnic groups and are typically tied to socioeconomic conditions, not ethnicity or culture itself.

So, while some gang imagery (like tattoos, bandanas, or lowriders) overlaps stylistically with Chicano aesthetics, most Chicanos are not gang-affiliated at all — they’re proud Mexican-Americans keeping cultural traditions alive through art, music, cars, food, and family.

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3. The Heart of Chicano Culture

If you walk into a Chicano neighborhood or event, what you’ll find is:
• Murals celebrating heroes like César Chávez and Frida Kahlo
• Lowrider car shows and art exhibitions
• Family gatherings with mariachi and Tejano music
• Cultural pride in neighborhoods that helped shape Los Angeles, San Diego, and East L.A.

At its best, it’s a movement of beauty, resilience, and community, not crime or illegality.

Anonymous wrote:It's gotten pretty quiet here lately, given that "Awake" was just released a month or so ago.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jen used to brag so much about sending her kids to majority Hispanic schools. Probably only so she could feel superior.

Guess Brandon really strayed from his pastor days of peace and love. Racism is strength in Texas 🥵

It’s a Halloween costume, it’s funny! Part of the issue today is everyone is so uptight. Laugh a little