What an embarrassing effort at defending one’s self.

A ChatGBT readout - obviously!

Two morons of the highest order.

Brandon is the sane brittle, insecure, entitled, defensive, passive weak little man he’s always been. But now he’s a total nobody so the fallout pretty much only exists in this little corner of the interwebs.

Hi Brandon and Tina. Did you guys seriously just use ChatGPT to help write this sorry excuse for your bad behavior? It really looks that way.

Thanks so for the cultural history lesson, truly groundbreaking stuff. The issue isn’t whether Mexican culture is rich or meaningful (it obviously is). The problem is a bunch of white people playing dress-up as their idea of Cholos which means mimicking the most stereotyped, criminalized version of that culture. It’s not appreciation when your costume relies on caricatures that have been used for decades to demonize actual Latino communities. This is literally no different than white people participating in a gangsta and thug party. Neither version is ok.

You can write three paragraphs about César Chávez and lowrider culture, but it doesn’t erase the fact that you're cosplaying built on stereotypes that have been weaponized against Mexican-Americans. Let’s not pretend the “cholo look” exists in a vacuum. That image is the same one cops and media have used for years to criminalize brown kids. So when you turn it into a costume, it is not celebrating the culture, you’re recycling a racist caricature. And please, spare us the “we had a Latino friend there” defense. You don’t get cultural immunity by association.

You’re literally arguing that the problem is people connecting Chicano culture to gangs while defending your decision to dress up as the most stereotyped version of that culture. And then photographing yourselves with an ICE agent for laughs as if that is not a huge trauma for the very community you're lecturing us about.

So yeah. you don’t get points for being racist, getting called on it, and then trying to moralize about it afterward. Just like you don't get points for cheating on your wife, getting outed for it, and then trying to minimize and blame-shift.

There's so much ignorance on this thread. What IS racist or at minimum ignorant is a bunch of non-latino's negatively and intuitively connecting a subculture within the Latino/Latina culture with gang bangers and illegal immigrants.

Tina certainly could have explained it more for context, but If you read in her comments, this was hosted by a Latino friend as a themed birthday party celebrating him and where he came from.

I agree the ICE costume comes across as insensitive, but have you ever been responsible for a costume choices someone else wears? It obviously wasn't an ICE party or a deportation party it was a birthday party.

Read up maybe this will help you...

Chicano culture is not synonymous with gang culture or illegal immigration. In fact, it’s a rich, deeply rooted American subculture that emerged from Mexican-American identity, particularly in the Southwest (especially Southern California, Texas, and Arizona). Here’s the breakdown:

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1. What Chicano Culture Really Is

Chicano refers to people of Mexican descent who were born or raised in the United States — not immigrants. The term grew out of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement as an expression of cultural pride and political empowerment.
It celebrates:
• Family and faith
• Community activism and social justice
• Lowrider and car club culture (a form of creative pride, art, and self-expression)
• Distinct fashion, music, art, and tattoo styles
• Mexican-American heritage — blending Mexican roots with American life.

In short, Chicano culture is about identity, art, resistance, and pride, not crime.

⸻

2. The Misconception About Crime or Immigration

Because some gang members have historically come from Chicano neighborhoods — often due to poverty, discrimination, and systemic neglect — the media has sometimes blurred the line between Chicano culture and gang life. But they are not the same thing.
• Illegal immigrants are people who came to the U.S. without authorization, from any Latin American country — that’s a legal/immigration status, not a culture.
• Gang members exist in many ethnic groups and are typically tied to socioeconomic conditions, not ethnicity or culture itself.

So, while some gang imagery (like tattoos, bandanas, or lowriders) overlaps stylistically with Chicano aesthetics, most Chicanos are not gang-affiliated at all — they’re proud Mexican-Americans keeping cultural traditions alive through art, music, cars, food, and family.

⸻

3. The Heart of Chicano Culture

If you walk into a Chicano neighborhood or event, what you’ll find is:
• Murals celebrating heroes like César Chávez and Frida Kahlo
• Lowrider car shows and art exhibitions
• Family gatherings with mariachi and Tejano music
• Cultural pride in neighborhoods that helped shape Los Angeles, San Diego, and East L.A.

At its best, it’s a movement of beauty, resilience, and community, not crime or illegality.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not just deported but beaten and tortured and sent to a random country to be tortured more.

Yes, and I wish they'd explain WHY they wore these costumes? It's just unfathomable, unless they
are trying to rage-bait and/or show their hatred and racism. Was everyone at this event white?
Do they have Hispanic, Black, Asian friends?

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There's so much ignorance on this thread. What IS racist or at minimum ignorant is a bunch of non-latino's negatively and intuitively connecting a subculture within the Latino/Latina culture with gang bangers and illegal immigrants.

Tina certainly could have explained it more for context, but If you read in her comments, this was hosted by a Latino friend as a themed birthday party celebrating him and where he came from.

I agree the ICE costume comes across as insensitive, but have you ever been responsible for a costume choices someone else wears? It obviously wasn't an ICE party or a deportation party it was a birthday party.

Read up maybe this will help you...

Chicano culture is not synonymous with gang culture or illegal immigration. In fact, it’s a rich, deeply rooted American subculture that emerged from Mexican-American identity, particularly in the Southwest (especially Southern California, Texas, and Arizona). Here’s the breakdown:

⸻

1. What Chicano Culture Really Is

Chicano refers to people of Mexican descent who were born or raised in the United States — not immigrants. The term grew out of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement as an expression of cultural pride and political empowerment.
It celebrates:
• Family and faith
• Community activism and social justice
• Lowrider and car club culture (a form of creative pride, art, and self-expression)
• Distinct fashion, music, art, and tattoo styles
• Mexican-American heritage — blending Mexican roots with American life.

In short, Chicano culture is about identity, art, resistance, and pride, not crime.

⸻

2. The Misconception About Crime or Immigration

Because some gang members have historically come from Chicano neighborhoods — often due to poverty, discrimination, and systemic neglect — the media has sometimes blurred the line between Chicano culture and gang life. But they are not the same thing.
• Illegal immigrants are people who came to the U.S. without authorization, from any Latin American country — that’s a legal/immigration status, not a culture.
• Gang members exist in many ethnic groups and are typically tied to socioeconomic conditions, not ethnicity or culture itself.

So, while some gang imagery (like tattoos, bandanas, or lowriders) overlaps stylistically with Chicano aesthetics, most Chicanos are not gang-affiliated at all — they’re proud Mexican-Americans keeping cultural traditions alive through art, music, cars, food, and family.

⸻

3. The Heart of Chicano Culture

If you walk into a Chicano neighborhood or event, what you’ll find is:
• Murals celebrating heroes like César Chávez and Frida Kahlo
• Lowrider car shows and art exhibitions
• Family gatherings with mariachi and Tejano music
• Cultural pride in neighborhoods that helped shape Los Angeles, San Diego, and East L.A.

At its best, it’s a movement of beauty, resilience, and community, not crime or illegality.

Jen used to brag so much about sending her kids to majority Hispanic schools. Probably only so she could feel superior.

Are you sure that was Jen? Because I remember Kristen Howerton virtue signaling about that. But Buda is like 80% white. And any time she's posted pics of the kids with their friends, they were all white too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jen used to brag so much about sending her kids to majority Hispanic schools. Probably only so she could feel superior.

Guess Brandon really strayed from his pastor days of peace and love. Racism is strength in Texas 🥵

It’s a Halloween costume, it’s funny! Part of the issue today is everyone is so uptight. Laugh a little

I don't like defending any of these people because they are so cringe. But I agree, It was Halloween or a birthday party theme where I assume they were expected to dress this way. And I see in a previous post that the host is Mexican American. I actually attended a party a few years back with my husband that was "white trash" themed and honestly I felt bad at first but that's what the host wanted.

Well if it’s what the host wanted, who cares about morals

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, and I wish they'd explain WHY they wore these costumes? It's just unfathomable, unless they
are trying to rage-bait and/or show their hatred and racism. Was everyone at this event white?
Do they have Hispanic, Black, Asian friends?

This is who Brandon has always been. He's a redneck and he and Jen both chose to raise their black kids in rural Texas. I don't think any of them have had a person of color as a real friend (not just an influencer acquaintance). They are not in Austin and their friendship circles reflect that. His biker gang is racially problematic and segregated. Clearly his friends have no problem with racist costumes. It's sad, especially for the kids.

I think it's pretty clear and has been since the beginning on why they adopted 2 black children.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jen used to brag so much about sending her kids to majority Hispanic schools. Probably only so she could feel superior.

Guess Brandon really strayed from his pastor days of peace and love. Racism is strength in Texas 🥵

It’s a Halloween costume, it’s funny! Part of the issue today is everyone is so uptight. Laugh a little

I don't like defending any of these people because they are so cringe. But I agree, It was Halloween or a birthday party theme where I assume they were expected to dress this way. And I see in a previous post that the host is Mexican American. I actually attended a party a few years back with my husband that was "white trash" themed and honestly I felt bad at first but that's what the host wanted.

Ben took on the role of being mommy’s hyper compliant “birthday twin” and poor Remy was treated like an enigma to be tossed around.

Yes, and I wish they'd explain WHY they wore these costumes? It's just unfathomable, unless they
are trying to rage-bait and/or show their hatred and racism. Was everyone at this event white?
Do they have Hispanic, Black, Asian friends?

This is who Brandon has always been. He's a redneck and he and Jen both chose to raise their black kids in rural Texas. I don't think any of them have had a person of color as a real friend (not just an influencer acquaintance). They are not in Austin and their friendship circles reflect that. His biker gang is racially problematic and segregated. Clearly his friends have no problem with racist costumes. It's sad, especially for the kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jen used to brag so much about sending her kids to majority Hispanic schools. Probably only so she could feel superior.

Guess Brandon really strayed from his pastor days of peace and love. Racism is strength in Texas 🥵

It’s a Halloween costume, it’s funny! Part of the issue today is everyone is so uptight. Laugh a little

lol ICE broke my granny’s arm lol lmao lmfao

From twitter again:

I just started Jen Hatmaker’s book “Awake” this morning. I’m at the very beginning, and I’m already stunned by her open contempt for the Bible. I just finished the part where she rages about Jeremiah 17:9,

“The heart is deceitful above all things,
and desperately sick;
who can understand it?”

She rails against this text because she believes that it undermines a person’s ability to trust their instincts. And then she sneers at the notion that one might trust God rather than their own instincts.

I’m listening to the audiobook, which she reads herself. All of her passion goes into denouncing this text from Scripture and how it was used to harm her. It’s ugly and sad and pathetic beyond words.

So far, this book worse than I anticipated (which I didn’t think was possible).“

Anonymous wrote:Jen used to brag so much about sending her kids to majority Hispanic schools. Probably only so she could feel superior.

Guess Brandon really strayed from his pastor days of peace and love. Racism is strength in Texas 🥵

It’s a Halloween costume, it’s funny! Part of the issue today is everyone is so uptight. Laugh a little

Jen used to brag so much about sending her kids to majority Hispanic schools. Probably only so she could feel superior.

Guess Brandon really strayed from his pastor days of peace and love. Racism is strength in Texas 🥵

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not just deported but beaten and tortured and sent to a random country to be tortured more.

Yes, and I wish they'd explain WHY they wore these costumes? It's just unfathomable, unless they
are trying to rage-bait and/or show their hatred and racism. Was everyone at this event white?
Do they have Hispanic, Black, Asian friends?

There’s a ton of pressure for the “Texas strong” gangs to pretend that MAGA hasn’t been an absolute disaster. They’re just racist. Even Jen doesn’t have a single Black friend; just acquaintances to co-opt from.

This has been driving me crazy so I did a little digging last night. I am left still so very confused about many things. Tina tagged who I believe was the host and on his video it looks like it was his birthday party and he called it "Cholo y Chola Birthday Bash". I still cannot get over the friend in the ICE costume, and the guy in a Border Patrol costume. Wonder if that bothered anyone at the party? Is this a Texas thing?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not just deported but beaten and tortured and sent to a random country to be tortured more.

Yes, and I wish they'd explain WHY they wore these costumes? It's just unfathomable, unless they
are trying to rage-bait and/or show their hatred and racism. Was everyone at this event white?
Do they have Hispanic, Black, Asian friends?

There’s a ton of pressure for the “Texas strong” gangs to pretend that MAGA hasn’t been an absolute disaster. They’re just racist. Even Jen doesn’t have a single Black friend; just acquaintances to co-opt from.