Anonymous
01/20/2019 19:00
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
This. The Dems don’t care about US workers. They say they care for the working classes, yet want the open border to flood the labor market with cheap, unskilled laborers to compete against those same low-skilled US citizens. I simply cannot believe that the House is not forced to stay in session — no trips home for members— until this issue is resolved.
Trump is not going to open the Gov. first. He would lose all leverage in the negotiations. I cannot believe the House leadership turned down Trump’s DACA deal. How, exactly, are the Dems supporting the dreamers??????? No action.
DACA is protected by the courts. Limiting it to 3 years doesn't make sense for the Democrats.
How long is DACA protected by courts?
Anonymous
01/20/2019 19:00
Subject: Re:How long will the shutdown last?
Give Dreamers citizenship. That’s worth $5 billion for a wall that will likely never get built.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 18:59
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.
I assume you also feel that Pelosi has an obligation to allow Trump's proposal to come to a vote in the House?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0
McConnell isn’t going to waste time having a vote for a bill he knows the President will veto. That bill MUST contain funding for the Wall.
And I agree, Nancy should let the House vote on bill with DACA amnesty that Trump just offered. She doesn’t know how to negotiate.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 18:56
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
This. The Dems don’t care about US workers. They say they care for the working classes, yet want the open border to flood the labor market with cheap, unskilled laborers to compete against those same low-skilled US citizens. I simply cannot believe that the House is not forced to stay in session — no trips home for members— until this issue is resolved.
Trump is not going to open the Gov. first. He would lose all leverage in the negotiations. I cannot believe the House leadership turned down Trump’s DACA deal. How, exactly, are the Dems supporting the dreamers??????? No action.
DACA is protected by the courts. Limiting it to 3 years doesn't make sense for the Democrats.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 18:45
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
This. The Dems don’t care about US workers. They say they care for the working classes, yet want the open border to flood the labor market with cheap, unskilled laborers to compete against those same low-skilled US citizens. I simply cannot believe that the House is not forced to stay in session — no trips home for members— until this issue is resolved.
Trump is not going to open the Gov. first. He would lose all leverage in the negotiations. I cannot believe the House leadership turned down Trump’s DACA deal. How, exactly, are the Dems supporting the dreamers??????? No action.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 18:35
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.
I assume you also feel that Pelosi has an obligation to allow Trump's proposal to come to a vote in the House?
DP here. One is a must-pass budget bill. The other is something the Republicans could have brought any time in the last 2 years. Big difference.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 18:02
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.
I assume you also feel that Pelosi has an obligation to allow Trump's proposal to come to a vote in the House?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0
Anonymous
01/20/2019 18:01
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.
I assume you also feel that Pelosi has an obligation to allow Trump's proposal to come to a vote in the House?
Nope, that's not how it works. The House has passed a number of bills. The Senate should vote on them. If they pass, then they go to the President for signature or veto. Watch Schoolhouse Rock if you cannot remember these things. The legislation comes from the legislature, not the Executive.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 17:57
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Time to get a part time job
DH can handle childcare and household
Cut spending on household services, meals out, extras
You can do it.
Wouldn't DH get a temp job, since OP works?
Anyway, I think it'll last another one to two weeks. They will meet in the middle with a way of labeling funds that both sides can play off as a win.
No part time job for furloughed federal employees? you are supposed to be on call and be back to work in 24 hours when government reopens
I have to get office clearance to work a second job...and of course no one is in the office.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 17:52
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.
I assume you also feel that Pelosi has an obligation to allow Trump's proposal to come to a vote in the House?
DP. I would advise you to read the Constitution, particularly Article I, very, very carefully. And then come back to talk to us.
What are you talking about?
Your lack of understand of the legislative process.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 17:50
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.
I assume you also feel that Pelosi has an obligation to allow Trump's proposal to come to a vote in the House?
DP. I would advise you to read the Constitution, particularly Article I, very, very carefully. And then come back to talk to us.
What are you talking about?
Anonymous
01/20/2019 17:35
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Time to get a part time job
DH can handle childcare and household
Cut spending on household services, meals out, extras
You can do it.
Wouldn't DH get a temp job, since OP works?
Anyway, I think it'll last another one to two weeks. They will meet in the middle with a way of labeling funds that both sides can play off as a win.
No part time job for furloughed federal employees? you are supposed to be on call and be back to work in 24 hours when government reopens
Anonymous
01/20/2019 17:32
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.
I assume you also feel that Pelosi has an obligation to allow Trump's proposal to come to a vote in the House?
DP. I would advise you to read the Constitution, particularly Article I, very, very carefully. And then come back to talk to us.
Anonymous
01/20/2019 17:30
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.
I assume you also feel that Pelosi has an obligation to allow Trump's proposal to come to a vote in the House?
Anonymous
01/20/2019 16:23
Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me the concerted effort to pin this on McConnell (who I have no love for)? I don't get it. This is clearly a spat between Trump and house democrats.
McConnell should have brought the House bills to the Senate floor and see where it goes. To not even bring them to a vote is an abdication of duty.