Anonymous
Post 04/21/2022 10:08     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
I cannot believe this post. I truly can't. Rewriting the narrative is absolutely right. She's always been proud of being a "NOT.MY.PROBLEM. JESUS, WINE. I.JUST.CANT." parent. The actions she is describing will erode, not build trust. You want to be less involved in getting your kid ready for school? Help your kid develop a morning routine that works for them. If she thinks the problems are deeper than that, take her to therapy. Is she already going to therapy? Then maybe don't constantly put her on blast for issues she is getting therapy for.

I have really done a slow 180 on Jenn, and a big reason is her treatment of Remy. Remy is a real person, not a character in Jenn's Internet Life, and the way Jenn constantly throws her publicly under the bus is incredibly sad. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Remy stops speaking to her once she's an adult.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2022 08:06     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Also, since when has she been the coddling, hovering parent? Hasn't she always proudly parented with this tough love, "not my problem" attitude? We haven't forgotten all those "Jesus take the wheel because I. JUST. CAN'T. TODAY" posts, even if she wants to rewrite her narrative.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2022 07:16     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
I hope Remy is in therapy.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2022 00:15     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone see her latest post? So much to unpack there! And way to publicly shame Remy!


So let me get this straight, Jen. You will link videos of your church sermons, post pictures of surgery, shill basic fast fashion and podcast with Glennon, but wake up a child for school... not today.

It isn't codependency to parent your child. It isn't codependency to feel a sense of responsibility that your child get up, get to school and live a healthy and productive life. This whole "not my problem" bullshit is for abusive and cruel.

This child has been through a lifetime of trauma and because you've up and decided you're codependent no more, you're going to put your child on blast and stop parenting them? Jesus be a therapy session and smack upside the head.

Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 22:22     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Did anyone see her latest post? So much to unpack there! And way to publicly shame Remy!
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 19:18     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact Brandon cheated on Jen.

It’s clear he also had/has an addiction to drugs or booze but the marriage failed because she found out he cheated.

I do feel bad for her on that point. I’ve had too many friends go through this and it’s so so hard. It will make you crazy. I excuse a lot of bad moments. But it’s been 2? 3? years?

But a lot of those same friends, while they had their moments, have been amazing examples of faith through trial and inspired me in ridiculous amounts. I mean, i hope I would respond with such Grace and dignity. And they had little kids and had been out of the workforce for years, so logistically & financially it was much more dangerous.

I also had a Christian friend who trash talked her husband to literally anyone who came within 5 feet of her, while the husband, who had truly screwed up but certainly had his own list of complaints, remained quiet and refused to malign the mother of his children.
Even tho I was on her side - there’s no excuse for cheating - I lost all respect for her due to the way she handled it. I feel the same about Jen.

If you are a Christian, when your faith is tested, the proof is in the pudding on how much your faith in Christ has truly changed you.


How do you know for a fact he cheated? Do you know them?

I’ve always thought it was so odd that they just dance around whatever happened but never say it. Although, maybe not. Bc if she just came out with it, then she wouldn’t have two years of content.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 15:54     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:This will likely come across of more of a defense of Jen than intended, but what’s with the never speaking ill of an ex, especially if they cheated? You enter into a covenant with this person and make promises to each other and God, usually in front of all of your friends and family. When they break the covenant in supremely painful ways, why is it incumbent on the hurt party to not reveal to those same friends and family why the marriage is ending? I’m not suggesting that people should continually bad mouth their ex, especially to shared children, but I do think it is fine to share openly why the marriage is ending. This is a weird cultural thing, especially in Christian circles, and it seems designed to preserve the dignity of cheaters, primarily cheating men. All marriages have problems, but not all marriages have cheaters. Additionally, Brandon got a lot of mileage out of being the biker preacher guy, presumably while cheating on his wife. He’s not a victim.


I completely agree that it would be ok to openly state what happened. The Hatmakers could have released a statement (either jointly or individually) that addressed Brandon’s addiction and (possible) cheating - in a mature, true, and professional way as possible.

Instead, Jen made an ambiguous divorce post that laid the blame entirely at Brandon’s feet and stated they would not share the details to protect their family. Almost 2 YEARS later and she’s still posting passive aggressive comments and podcasts about how horrible her ex-husband was, and how completely AMAZING she is - to 500,000 people. We get it, Jen. You - Good. Him - Bad. MOVE ON. Especially for your poor teenage and adult children……
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 15:41     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
I think it's less about her badmouthing Brandon and more of her obliterating any authenticity she has left. We watched for YEARS as she professed to living out this perfect love story with the perfect partner. Then he leaves her, and rather than take the opportunity to step back and reflect, she switches gears into the same narrative with different people. Her friends are the best. Tyler is the best. She is the best.

Sure, tell your story. But maybe infuse it with the insight and wisdom.and maturity you have professed to have gained through this ordeal.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 15:07     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
This will likely come across of more of a defense of Jen than intended, but what’s with the never speaking ill of an ex, especially if they cheated? You enter into a covenant with this person and make promises to each other and God, usually in front of all of your friends and family. When they break the covenant in supremely painful ways, why is it incumbent on the hurt party to not reveal to those same friends and family why the marriage is ending? I’m not suggesting that people should continually bad mouth their ex, especially to shared children, but I do think it is fine to share openly why the marriage is ending. This is a weird cultural thing, especially in Christian circles, and it seems designed to preserve the dignity of cheaters, primarily cheating men. All marriages have problems, but not all marriages have cheaters. Additionally, Brandon got a lot of mileage out of being the biker preacher guy, presumably while cheating on his wife. He’s not a victim.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 14:08     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact Brandon cheated on Jen.

It’s clear he also had/has an addiction to drugs or booze but the marriage failed because she found out he cheated.

I do feel bad for her on that point. I’ve had too many friends go through this and it’s so so hard. It will make you crazy. I excuse a lot of bad moments. But it’s been 2? 3? years?

But a lot of those same friends, while they had their moments, have been amazing examples of faith through trial and inspired me in ridiculous amounts. I mean, i hope I would respond with such Grace and dignity. And they had little kids and had been out of the workforce for years, so logistically & financially it was much more dangerous.

I also had a Christian friend who trash talked her husband to literally anyone who came within 5 feet of her, while the husband, who had truly screwed up but certainly had his own list of complaints, remained quiet and refused to malign the mother of his children.
Even tho I was on her side - there’s no excuse for cheating - I lost all respect for her due to the way she handled it. I feel the same about Jen.

If I was married to Jen, I’d cheat on her too. Who can take the drivel and the self absorption of her toxic personality. For F’s sake, who could blame him. He was stuck.

If you are a Christian, when your faith is tested, the proof is in the pudding on how much your faith in Christ has truly changed you.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 12:52     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:

If you are a Christian, when your faith is tested, the proof is in the pudding on how much your faith in Christ has truly changed you.


She’s not the first professing Christian to lose her faith when Jesus in a Genie Bottle didn’t do what she wanted, and she won’t be the last

The prosperity gospel takes on many forms but ultimately it’s all the same message and it will always disappoint.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 12:46     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Yeah there’s no excuse for cheating but I think j emasculated b so much it doesn’t surprise me that Texas Barbie looked real appealing by comparison
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 12:42     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
I know for a fact Brandon cheated on Jen.

It’s clear he also had/has an addiction to drugs or booze but the marriage failed because she found out he cheated.

I do feel bad for her on that point. I’ve had too many friends go through this and it’s so so hard. It will make you crazy. I excuse a lot of bad moments. But it’s been 2? 3? years?

But a lot of those same friends, while they had their moments, have been amazing examples of faith through trial and inspired me in ridiculous amounts. I mean, i hope I would respond with such Grace and dignity. And they had little kids and had been out of the workforce for years, so logistically & financially it was much more dangerous.

I also had a Christian friend who trash talked her husband to literally anyone who came within 5 feet of her, while the husband, who had truly screwed up but certainly had his own list of complaints, remained quiet and refused to malign the mother of his children.
Even tho I was on her side - there’s no excuse for cheating - I lost all respect for her due to the way she handled it. I feel the same about Jen.

If you are a Christian, when your faith is tested, the proof is in the pudding on how much your faith in Christ has truly changed you.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 11:08     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Brandon just couldn’t stop and the constant bullshit and phoniness anymore. Especially as he, at the time, was recently a head pastor of a pretty large, influential church at the time (not anymore though - it’s pretty much a skeleton crew with very few people ‘from back in the day’ attending).

It’s hard to play that role when everything behind the scenes is grift and scheming.


His addiction certainly played a big part. He’s no victim.


Addiction to WHAT? I know that was speculated but was that every really confirmed? I bet it was her PR machine…


He confirmed an addiction and relapse. He’s still drinking, so I assumed pills. He didn’t confirm the substance.

The post is now gone, but we discussed it here a long time ago.


There's an IG post around the time they split up where Brandon mentions rehab. That, coupled with Jen mentioning to Glennon that the two of them had gone through something similar in their marriages, makes me wonder if Brandon's rehab wasn't for sex addiction.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 21:54     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Not many people have the opportunity to launch their churches ala The Hatmakers.

If ANC isn’t doing it for Jen anymore I can’t really see any church doing it for her.

For all her talk about “hierarchies and systems” at ANC she literally is the hierarchy and the structure.