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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that before BY it was SY from Aug 1 - July 31? Do you think Aug kids who didn't play on grade never played in college back then? No. The answer is no.

They played up with their grade if players wanted to play in college.

No they didn’t. But keep telling yourself that.

But they did. The drive by many patents to play down is new. Probably driven by private school parents that are looking for ways to hold back their kids.

N=2 ...We have someone saying Aug Kids who played in college played on age last time SY AND we have someone saying Aug kids who played in college played on grade last time in SY. Bet both was true to a certain extent/situations. Our problem in this world today is too often people want their world view to be everyone else's -- at least online.

There's many different colleges. The more competitive colleges (typically D1 but not always) have 100s of players to choose from for every position. They will not waste their time on a player with unknown potential because they're playing down a grade. Colleges further down the competitive scale might take a risk on a player thats playing down but this is because they cant do any better. Also expensive private schools will take whoever can pay so often it doesnt even matter. But over all playing down is a negative for a grade up player. By doing it you've most likely screwed yourself out of playing for the best teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that before BY it was SY from Aug 1 - July 31? Do you think Aug kids who didn't play on grade never played in college back then? No. The answer is no.

They played up with their grade if players wanted to play in college.

No they didn’t. But keep telling yourself that.

But they did. The drive by many patents to play down is new. Probably driven by private school parents that are looking for ways to hold back their kids.

N=2 ...We have someone saying Aug Kids who played in college played on age last time SY AND we have someone saying Aug kids who played in college played on grade last time in SY. Bet both was true to a certain extent/situations. Our problem in this world today is too often people want their world view to be everyone else's -- at least online.

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Anonymous wrote:From US Club

Additional Note - Players “trapped down”

Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.

US Club gets it + understands that Aug birthdays playing on a grade down team is an issue. So do we want to call this a recommendation from US Club that younger than the SY eligibility window should play with their grade? Seems like that it whats being recommended.

This to me says that US Club recognizes the "disadvantage" of August birthdays playing down in SY depending on when their school starts. It also implies that allowing playing down a grade was not their intention when switching to SY. In the last sentence US Club punts the issue to clubs.

What this says to me is clubs that want to have the best possible college recruits will not allow August birthdays to play on a grade down team. You might see it at tournaments with eligible players playing down as guests. You might also see it at the littles level when it doesnt matter. But they will need to play with they grade eventually to get recruited for college. The longer you wait to play on the correct grade team the harder it is to make the jump up.

No, US club went SY for retention. Have no idea how you invented a bizarre college recruiting issue that doesn't and won't exist for anybody ever.

It's his thing. He's so convinced by it, he feels the need to "educate" all of us here. All the pushback only encourages him more toward his goal to tell people they're wrong.

Next season when theres no players playing down on top teams will sort everything out.

^^^^Case-in-point ^^^^

Yup! - I can't wait until next year one of the Aug kids on my daughter's "top team" does in fact play in the correct new age group (not down ffs).

Everyone whos either gone though college recruiting or are currently in a college recruiting age group knows that you have to play with your grade to get noticed. Theres too much competition for roster spots and college coaches jobs are directly tied to wins.

LOL 😆..
You get noticed by reaching out to recruiters directly or be a super star in the crowd

Neither cares about your grade. Only your skills, talent and potential.
The college knows your graduation date.

Please tell that to boys coaches who pick foreign Academy players over local talent. They must have missed the memo about how playing down is a "good" thing.

Wow. Dropped out of this thread for a month/40 pages and thought I’d check back in and August playing down guy is still dominating the conversation. Any updates on what clubs are actually doing?

Yep the the littles know it all is still trying to convince everyone that recruiters wont notice when players are playing down a grade. They will and because of it they'll recruit other players that are playing their grade.

How do you play down a year in travel soccer?

Young Aug birthdays can be a grade up in school but because of how the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window works players in some school districts can play on a grade down team.

Doing this kills their chances at being recruited. Any player serious about playing in college will play with their correct grade team (not down).

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that before BY it was SY from Aug 1 - July 31? Do you think Aug kids who didn't play on grade never played in college back then? No. The answer is no.

They played up with their grade if players wanted to play in college.

No they didn’t. But keep telling yourself that.

But they did. The drive by many patents to play down is new. Probably driven by private school parents that are looking for ways to hold back their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that before BY it was SY from Aug 1 - July 31? Do you think Aug kids who didn't play on grade never played in college back then? No. The answer is no.

They played up with their grade if players wanted to play in college.

No they didn’t. But keep telling yourself that.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that before BY it was SY from Aug 1 - July 31? Do you think Aug kids who didn't play on grade never played in college back then? No. The answer is no.

They played up with their grade if players wanted to play in college.

Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that before BY it was SY from Aug 1 - July 31? Do you think Aug kids who didn't play on grade never played in college back then? No. The answer is no.

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Anonymous wrote:From US Club

Additional Note - Players “trapped down”

Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.

US Club gets it + understands that Aug birthdays playing on a grade down team is an issue. So do we want to call this a recommendation from US Club that younger than the SY eligibility window should play with their grade? Seems like that it whats being recommended.

This to me says that US Club recognizes the "disadvantage" of August birthdays playing down in SY depending on when their school starts. It also implies that allowing playing down a grade was not their intention when switching to SY. In the last sentence US Club punts the issue to clubs.

What this says to me is clubs that want to have the best possible college recruits will not allow August birthdays to play on a grade down team. You might see it at tournaments with eligible players playing down as guests. You might also see it at the littles level when it doesnt matter. But they will need to play with they grade eventually to get recruited for college. The longer you wait to play on the correct grade team the harder it is to make the jump up.

No, US club went SY for retention. Have no idea how you invented a bizarre college recruiting issue that doesn't and won't exist for anybody ever.

It's his thing. He's so convinced by it, he feels the need to "educate" all of us here. All the pushback only encourages him more toward his goal to tell people they're wrong.

Next season when theres no players playing down on top teams will sort everything out.

^^^^Case-in-point ^^^^

Yup! - I can't wait until next year one of the Aug kids on my daughter's "top team" does in fact play in the correct new age group (not down ffs).

Everyone whos either gone though college recruiting or are currently in a college recruiting age group knows that you have to play with your grade to get noticed. Theres too much competition for roster spots and college coaches jobs are directly tied to wins.

LOL 😆..
You get noticed by reaching out to recruiters directly or be a super star in the crowd

Neither cares about your grade. Only your skills, talent and potential.
The college knows your graduation date.

Please tell that to boys coaches who pick foreign Academy players over local talent. They must have missed the memo about how playing down is a "good" thing.

Wow. Dropped out of this thread for a month/40 pages and thought I’d check back in and August playing down guy is still dominating the conversation. Any updates on what clubs are actually doing?

Yep the the littles know it all is still trying to convince everyone that recruiters wont notice when players are playing down a grade. They will and because of it they'll recruit other players that are playing their grade.

How do you play down a year in travel soccer?

Young Aug birthdays can be a grade up in school but because of how the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window works players in some school districts can play on a grade down team.

Doing this kills their chances at being recruited. Any player serious about playing in college will play with their correct grade team (not down).

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Anonymous wrote:From US Club

Additional Note - Players “trapped down”

Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.

US Club gets it + understands that Aug birthdays playing on a grade down team is an issue. So do we want to call this a recommendation from US Club that younger than the SY eligibility window should play with their grade? Seems like that it whats being recommended.

This to me says that US Club recognizes the "disadvantage" of August birthdays playing down in SY depending on when their school starts. It also implies that allowing playing down a grade was not their intention when switching to SY. In the last sentence US Club punts the issue to clubs.

What this says to me is clubs that want to have the best possible college recruits will not allow August birthdays to play on a grade down team. You might see it at tournaments with eligible players playing down as guests. You might also see it at the littles level when it doesnt matter. But they will need to play with they grade eventually to get recruited for college. The longer you wait to play on the correct grade team the harder it is to make the jump up.

No, US club went SY for retention. Have no idea how you invented a bizarre college recruiting issue that doesn't and won't exist for anybody ever.

It's his thing. He's so convinced by it, he feels the need to "educate" all of us here. All the pushback only encourages him more toward his goal to tell people they're wrong.

Next season when theres no players playing down on top teams will sort everything out.

^^^^Case-in-point ^^^^

Yup! - I can't wait until next year one of the Aug kids on my daughter's "top team" does in fact play in the correct new age group (not down ffs).

Everyone whos either gone though college recruiting or are currently in a college recruiting age group knows that you have to play with your grade to get noticed. Theres too much competition for roster spots and college coaches jobs are directly tied to wins.

LOL 😆..
You get noticed by reaching out to recruiters directly or be a super star in the crowd

Neither cares about your grade. Only your skills, talent and potential.
The college knows your graduation date.

Please tell that to boys coaches who pick foreign Academy players over local talent. They must have missed the memo about how playing down is a "good" thing.

Wow. Dropped out of this thread for a month/40 pages and thought I’d check back in and August playing down guy is still dominating the conversation. Any updates on what clubs are actually doing?

Yep the the littles know it all is still trying to convince everyone that recruiters wont notice when players are playing down a grade. They will and because of it they'll recruit other players that are playing their grade.

How do you play down a year in travel soccer?

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Anonymous wrote:From US Club

Additional Note - Players “trapped down”

Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.

US Club gets it + understands that Aug birthdays playing on a grade down team is an issue. So do we want to call this a recommendation from US Club that younger than the SY eligibility window should play with their grade? Seems like that it whats being recommended.

This to me says that US Club recognizes the "disadvantage" of August birthdays playing down in SY depending on when their school starts. It also implies that allowing playing down a grade was not their intention when switching to SY. In the last sentence US Club punts the issue to clubs.

What this says to me is clubs that want to have the best possible college recruits will not allow August birthdays to play on a grade down team. You might see it at tournaments with eligible players playing down as guests. You might also see it at the littles level when it doesnt matter. But they will need to play with they grade eventually to get recruited for college. The longer you wait to play on the correct grade team the harder it is to make the jump up.

No, US club went SY for retention. Have no idea how you invented a bizarre college recruiting issue that doesn't and won't exist for anybody ever.

It's his thing. He's so convinced by it, he feels the need to "educate" all of us here. All the pushback only encourages him more toward his goal to tell people they're wrong.

Next season when theres no players playing down on top teams will sort everything out.

^^^^Case-in-point ^^^^

Yup! - I can't wait until next year one of the Aug kids on my daughter's "top team" does in fact play in the correct new age group (not down ffs).

Everyone whos either gone though college recruiting or are currently in a college recruiting age group knows that you have to play with your grade to get noticed. Theres too much competition for roster spots and college coaches jobs are directly tied to wins.

LOL 😆..
You get noticed by reaching out to recruiters directly or be a super star in the crowd

Neither cares about your grade. Only your skills, talent and potential.
The college knows your graduation date.

Please tell that to boys coaches who pick foreign Academy players over local talent. They must have missed the memo about how playing down is a "good" thing.

Wow. Dropped out of this thread for a month/40 pages and thought I’d check back in and August playing down guy is still dominating the conversation. Any updates on what clubs are actually doing?

Yep the the littles know it all is still trying to convince everyone that recruiters wont notice when players are playing down a grade. They will and because of it they'll recruit other players that are playing their grade.

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Anonymous wrote:From US Club

Additional Note - Players “trapped down”

Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.

US Club gets it + understands that Aug birthdays playing on a grade down team is an issue. So do we want to call this a recommendation from US Club that younger than the SY eligibility window should play with their grade? Seems like that it whats being recommended.

This to me says that US Club recognizes the "disadvantage" of August birthdays playing down in SY depending on when their school starts. It also implies that allowing playing down a grade was not their intention when switching to SY. In the last sentence US Club punts the issue to clubs.

What this says to me is clubs that want to have the best possible college recruits will not allow August birthdays to play on a grade down team. You might see it at tournaments with eligible players playing down as guests. You might also see it at the littles level when it doesnt matter. But they will need to play with they grade eventually to get recruited for college. The longer you wait to play on the correct grade team the harder it is to make the jump up.

No, US club went SY for retention. Have no idea how you invented a bizarre college recruiting issue that doesn't and won't exist for anybody ever.

It's his thing. He's so convinced by it, he feels the need to "educate" all of us here. All the pushback only encourages him more toward his goal to tell people they're wrong.

Next season when theres no players playing down on top teams will sort everything out.

^^^^Case-in-point ^^^^

Yup! - I can't wait until next year one of the Aug kids on my daughter's "top team" does in fact play in the correct new age group (not down ffs).

Everyone whos either gone though college recruiting or are currently in a college recruiting age group knows that you have to play with your grade to get noticed. Theres too much competition for roster spots and college coaches jobs are directly tied to wins.

LOL 😆..
You get noticed by reaching out to recruiters directly or be a super star in the crowd

Neither cares about your grade. Only your skills, talent and potential.
The college knows your graduation date.

You literally have zero idea what you are talking about. Come back to this forum when your kid is in the window. Go do a basic google search on what to put in your email to coaches (hint- graduation year is in there). There is a rhythm to college recruiting--and its anchored by your graduation year. Yes, grad year matters. Things are becoming a lot easier for college coaches next year.

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Anonymous wrote:From US Club

Additional Note - Players “trapped down”

Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.

US Club gets it + understands that Aug birthdays playing on a grade down team is an issue. So do we want to call this a recommendation from US Club that younger than the SY eligibility window should play with their grade? Seems like that it whats being recommended.

This to me says that US Club recognizes the "disadvantage" of August birthdays playing down in SY depending on when their school starts. It also implies that allowing playing down a grade was not their intention when switching to SY. In the last sentence US Club punts the issue to clubs.

What this says to me is clubs that want to have the best possible college recruits will not allow August birthdays to play on a grade down team. You might see it at tournaments with eligible players playing down as guests. You might also see it at the littles level when it doesnt matter. But they will need to play with they grade eventually to get recruited for college. The longer you wait to play on the correct grade team the harder it is to make the jump up.

No, US club went SY for retention. Have no idea how you invented a bizarre college recruiting issue that doesn't and won't exist for anybody ever.

It's his thing. He's so convinced by it, he feels the need to "educate" all of us here. All the pushback only encourages him more toward his goal to tell people they're wrong.

Next season when theres no players playing down on top teams will sort everything out.

^^^^Case-in-point ^^^^

Yup! - I can't wait until next year one of the Aug kids on my daughter's "top team" does in fact play in the correct new age group (not down ffs).

Everyone whos either gone though college recruiting or are currently in a college recruiting age group knows that you have to play with your grade to get noticed. Theres too much competition for roster spots and college coaches jobs are directly tied to wins.

LOL 😆..
You get noticed by reaching out to recruiters directly or be a super star in the crowd

Neither cares about your grade. Only your skills, talent and potential.
The college knows your graduation date.

Please tell that to boys coaches who pick foreign Academy players over local talent. They must have missed the memo about how playing down is a "good" thing.

Wow. Dropped out of this thread for a month/40 pages and thought I’d check back in and August playing down guy is still dominating the conversation. Any updates on what clubs are actually doing?

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Anonymous wrote:From US Club

Additional Note - Players “trapped down”

Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.

US Club gets it + understands that Aug birthdays playing on a grade down team is an issue. So do we want to call this a recommendation from US Club that younger than the SY eligibility window should play with their grade? Seems like that it whats being recommended.

This to me says that US Club recognizes the "disadvantage" of August birthdays playing down in SY depending on when their school starts. It also implies that allowing playing down a grade was not their intention when switching to SY. In the last sentence US Club punts the issue to clubs.

What this says to me is clubs that want to have the best possible college recruits will not allow August birthdays to play on a grade down team. You might see it at tournaments with eligible players playing down as guests. You might also see it at the littles level when it doesnt matter. But they will need to play with they grade eventually to get recruited for college. The longer you wait to play on the correct grade team the harder it is to make the jump up.

No, US club went SY for retention. Have no idea how you invented a bizarre college recruiting issue that doesn't and won't exist for anybody ever.

It's his thing. He's so convinced by it, he feels the need to "educate" all of us here. All the pushback only encourages him more toward his goal to tell people they're wrong.

Next season when theres no players playing down on top teams will sort everything out.

^^^^Case-in-point ^^^^

Yup! - I can't wait until next year one of the Aug kids on my daughter's "top team" does in fact play in the correct new age group (not down ffs).

Everyone whos either gone though college recruiting or are currently in a college recruiting age group knows that you have to play with your grade to get noticed. Theres too much competition for roster spots and college coaches jobs are directly tied to wins.

LOL 😆..
You get noticed by reaching out to recruiters directly or be a super star in the crowd

Neither cares about your grade. Only your skills, talent and potential.
The college knows your graduation date.

Please tell that to boys coaches who pick foreign Academy players over local talent. They must have missed the memo about how playing down is a "good" thing.

Wow. Dropped out of this thread for a month/40 pages and thought I’d check back in and August playing down guy is still dominating the conversation. Any updates on what clubs are actually doing?