Anonymous wrote:When you lose my mothers bridge club…

Mid 70s UMC white women in a Southern State, all of them religious, probably 1/2 Catholic, 1/2 some version of Protestant. Prime Trump demo.

And the things that did it for them… real ID paperwork screwups and potentially needing that paperwork to vote. Even with a passport, their new Real ID must exactly match the passport and SSa database. They are having to dig up 70 year old birth certificates, and 50 year old marriage licenses, and in several cases decades old divorce decrees and and remarriage certificates. And wait two months for an appt at the DMV. And being turned away and having to change their name with Social Security first, because their SS Card says First name, Middle name, Surname. And their drivers license or passport has first, maiden, surname, so they don’t match. And they must match, so name change with SSA (months for an appointment and a line), then a second appt and line at the DMV. At least two have missed cruises as a result of their paperwork not being identical.

SSA is hours in line and months for an appt. DMV in their state is the same— with the line out the door into the sun.

And my mother is like— I think Trump is trying to hurt women. Your stepfather doesn’t have to do this and we do. It’s wrong. (And they have gotten to the having to do it all again to vote after doing so for 60 years without issue phase yet).

Of course, this is the first time Catholic/ religious women believe women are being unfairly targeted. And of course it didn’t matter to them until they were trying to find 50 years old documents and standing in lines for hours and navigating multiple appointments to get new IDs, when last year they flew on the old Id, no problem.

But now it matters and they are pissed at Trump. Go figure. Not the straw I would have predicted to break the camels back. Except they are all so self centered, maybe I should have. If they don’t personally struggle, they ignore the struggles of everyone else.

Their spouses are still maga, of course.

But, he’s losing the wealthy white Southern Church Ladies. Because the policies hit them. Wait until their MDs start dropping Medicare patients….

Anonymous wrote:

And the things that did it for them… real ID paperwork screwups and potentially needing that paperwork to vote. Even with a passport, their new Real ID must exactly match the passport and SSa database. They are having to dig up 70 year old birth certificates, and 50 year old marriage licenses, and in several cases decades old divorce decrees and and remarriage certificates. And wait two months for an appt at the DMV. And being turned away and having to change their name with Social Security first, because their SS Card says First name, Middle name, Surname. And their drivers license or passport has first, maiden, surname, so they don’t match. And they must match, so name change with SSA (months for an appointment and a line), then a second appt and line at the DMV. At least two have missed cruises as a result of their paperwork not being identical.

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Anonymous wrote:When you lose my mothers bridge club…

Mid 70s UMC white women in a Southern State, all of them religious, probably 1/2 Catholic, 1/2 some version of Protestant. Prime Trump demo.

And the things that did it for them… real ID paperwork screwups and potentially needing that paperwork to vote. Even with a passport, their new Real ID must exactly match the passport and SSa database. They are having to dig up 70 year old birth certificates, and 50 year old marriage licenses, and in several cases decades old divorce decrees and and remarriage certificates. And wait two months for an appt at the DMV. And being turned away and having to change their name with Social Security first, because their SS Card says First name, Middle name, Surname. And their drivers license or passport has first, maiden, surname, so they don’t match. And they must match, so name change with SSA (months for an appointment and a line), then a second appt and line at the DMV. At least two have missed cruises as a result of their paperwork not being identical.

SSA is hours in line and months for an appt. DMV in their state is the same— with the line out the door into the sun.

And my mother is like— I think Trump is trying to hurt women. Your stepfather doesn’t have to do this and we do. It’s wrong. (And they have gotten to the having to do it all again to vote after doing so for 60 years without issue phase yet).

Of course, this is the first time Catholic/ religious women believe women are being unfairly targeted. And of course it didn’t matter to them until they were trying to find 50 years old documents and standing in lines for hours and navigating multiple appointments to get new IDs, when last year they flew on the old Id, no problem.

But now it matters and they are pissed at Trump. Go figure. Not the straw I would have predicted to break the camels back. Except they are all so self centered, maybe I should have. If they don’t personally struggle, they ignore the struggles of everyone else.

Their spouses are still maga, of course.

But, he’s losing the wealthy white Southern Church Ladies. Because the policies hit them. Wait until their MDs start dropping Medicare patients….

Anonymous wrote:When you lose my mothers bridge club…

Mid 70s UMC white women in a Southern State, all of them religious, probably 1/2 Catholic, 1/2 some version of Protestant. Prime Trump demo.

And the things that did it for them… real ID paperwork screwups and potentially needing that paperwork to vote. Even with a passport, their new Real ID must exactly match the passport and SSa database. They are having to dig up 70 year old birth certificates, and 50 year old marriage licenses, and in several cases decades old divorce decrees and and remarriage certificates. And wait two months for an appt at the DMV. And being turned away and having to change their name with Social Security first, because their SS Card says First name, Middle name, Surname. And their drivers license or passport has first, maiden, surname, so they don’t match. And they must match, so name change with SSA (months for an appointment and a line), then a second appt and line at the DMV. At least two have missed cruises as a result of their paperwork not being identical.

SSA is hours in line and months for an appt. DMV in their state is the same— with the line out the door into the sun.

And my mother is like— I think Trump is trying to hurt women. Your stepfather doesn’t have to do this and we do. It’s wrong. (And they have gotten to the having to do it all again to vote after doing so for 60 years without issue phase yet).

Of course, this is the first time Catholic/ religious women believe women are being unfairly targeted. And of course it didn’t matter to them until they were trying to find 50 years old documents and standing in lines for hours and navigating multiple appointments to get new IDs, when last year they flew on the old Id, no problem.

But now it matters and they are pissed at Trump. Go figure. Not the straw I would have predicted to break the camels back. Except they are all so self centered, maybe I should have. If they don’t personally struggle, they ignore the struggles of everyone else.

Their spouses are still maga, of course.

But, he’s losing the wealthy white Southern Church Ladies. Because the policies hit them. Wait until their MDs start dropping Medicare patients….

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Trump appears to be losing by winning. The more he does (including issues beyond his legislative wins), the more the general public, especially independents, shrug — or recoil.

One poll is meaningless. But a bunch of credible polls, showing the same thing, are worth paying attention to. And almost all of them show big majorities opposed to provisions of the "One Big Beautiful Bill" ... and harsh immigration crackdown ... and high tariffs ... and pardons for Jan. 6 convicts ... and wild improvisation with Russia.

Buyer's remorse appears especially concentrated among Gen Z voters, whose extraordinary shift toward Trump in 2024 spawned existential panic inside the Democratic Party.
Trump's net approval rating among 18- to 29-year-olds has plummeted to -40 since inauguration, down from roughly even, according to pollster G. Elliott Morris.

In private, Trump gripes about not getting sufficient credit for defying expectations and historic norms. He's imposing his will on the nation — yet the media and even MAGA fixate on the blemishes. But what if his ideas are authentically unpopular?”

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/23/trump-polling-six-months

Leave gen Z females out of it I know plenty and they they were against Trump and they went out and voted about it.

DP there are a lot of female(gen z and the rest) who are all in on Trump, maga and hate filled rants. This is not just a male problem.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Trump appears to be losing by winning. The more he does (including issues beyond his legislative wins), the more the general public, especially independents, shrug — or recoil.

One poll is meaningless. But a bunch of credible polls, showing the same thing, are worth paying attention to. And almost all of them show big majorities opposed to provisions of the "One Big Beautiful Bill" ... and harsh immigration crackdown ... and high tariffs ... and pardons for Jan. 6 convicts ... and wild improvisation with Russia.

Buyer's remorse appears especially concentrated among Gen Z voters, whose extraordinary shift toward Trump in 2024 spawned existential panic inside the Democratic Party.
Trump's net approval rating among 18- to 29-year-olds has plummeted to -40 since inauguration, down from roughly even, according to pollster G. Elliott Morris.

In private, Trump gripes about not getting sufficient credit for defying expectations and historic norms. He's imposing his will on the nation — yet the media and even MAGA fixate on the blemishes. But what if his ideas are authentically unpopular?”

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/23/trump-polling-six-months

Leave gen Z females out of it I know plenty and they they were against Trump and they went out and voted about it.

Anonymous wrote:Just to be clear, the 53% approval rating he had in the February 5-7 CBS Poll is the highest approval rating he’s ever had while president. That should be a wake up to everyone on this board about how the rest of the country feels about the DC area and how they are hungering for what people on here think is authoritarianism.

According to CNN, Trump’s approval rating is 9 points higher now than it was at the same time in his first term.

Anonymous wrote:“Trump appears to be losing by winning. The more he does (including issues beyond his legislative wins), the more the general public, especially independents, shrug — or recoil.

One poll is meaningless. But a bunch of credible polls, showing the same thing, are worth paying attention to. And almost all of them show big majorities opposed to provisions of the "One Big Beautiful Bill" ... and harsh immigration crackdown ... and high tariffs ... and pardons for Jan. 6 convicts ... and wild improvisation with Russia.

Buyer's remorse appears especially concentrated among Gen Z voters, whose extraordinary shift toward Trump in 2024 spawned existential panic inside the Democratic Party.
Trump's net approval rating among 18- to 29-year-olds has plummeted to -40 since inauguration, down from roughly even, according to pollster G. Elliott Morris.

In private, Trump gripes about not getting sufficient credit for defying expectations and historic norms. He's imposing his will on the nation — yet the media and even MAGA fixate on the blemishes. But what if his ideas are authentically unpopular?”

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/23/trump-polling-six-months

Anonymous wrote:“Trump appears to be losing by winning. The more he does (including issues beyond his legislative wins), the more the general public, especially independents, shrug — or recoil.

One poll is meaningless. But a bunch of credible polls, showing the same thing, are worth paying attention to. And almost all of them show big majorities opposed to provisions of the "One Big Beautiful Bill" ... and harsh immigration crackdown ... and high tariffs ... and pardons for Jan. 6 convicts ... and wild improvisation with Russia.

Buyer's remorse appears especially concentrated among Gen Z voters, whose extraordinary shift toward Trump in 2024 spawned existential panic inside the Democratic Party.
Trump's net approval rating among 18- to 29-year-olds has plummeted to -40 since inauguration, down from roughly even, according to pollster G. Elliott Morris.

In private, Trump gripes about not getting sufficient credit for defying expectations and historic norms. He's imposing his will on the nation — yet the media and even MAGA fixate on the blemishes. But what if his ideas are authentically unpopular?”

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/23/trump-polling-six-months