Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:24     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am confused, thought the pilot has been identified as a guy from Atlanta?


Regardless, Buttigieg was appointed specifically to unwind the first Trump administration standards for ATCs.

The Biden transportation secretary publicly stated he thought the federal ATC workforce "was too white."


So it is unsafe to fly right now?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:23     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no way Trump hadn't been told one of the pilots was a black woman before he ranted about DEI. What a disgusting pig.


Assuming a black female pilot is automatically unqualified and a "DEI hire" goes beyond being a disgusting pig.


+1, imagine being the family if that pilot and finding out your child/sister/wife/mother died in a tragic accident and then seeing the president ranting about "DEI" being to blame
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:23     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.


You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I


Man, the male helo pilot (or copilot) said at both ATC warnings that yes, they have visual separation and then went and crashed into the underside of the jet.

W T F.


They could have been watch another plane. It is in the video. Though he could have stopped. Helicopter can hover.


No. Look at the radar. If the helicopter pilot was looking at another plane, he was staring out the side window of the helicopter.

The plane he crashed into is directly in front of him. Even accounting for the fact the plane is descending in altitude and the dark, there is no plausible way the helicopter pilot though they were talking about one of the other planes. There was only one other plane in the vicinity and it's to the side and behind the helicopter.

Also the ATC identifies the aircraft by call sign, which presumably should have shown up on helicopter radar as well.


Dude, they have navigational tools and fly off those most of all! They know an approaching aircraft’s altitude, speed, angle.

If pilot was “looking out since wrong side window” at a different jet farther away, that’s malpractice, malfeasance, negligence and pure idiocy.

They look at both the navs and outside visuals.

Guess which one is most accurate? To the point that in a white out or black out situation they only use it? The Navs!


Something dumb happened here.

And if it’s a cascade of substandard DEI admittances and promotions, so be it.

We need to know.


If it turns out she was piloting, it was the man who radioed they saw the plane. So, it can't entirely be her fault. I mean if you're headed straight for a plane, aren't the other two people on board going to start shouting? If this is going to be some DEI thing, I think we have to be honest that likely all of them are at fault, and perhaps whoever ordered them to be flying then.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:23     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:I am confused, thought the pilot has been identified as a guy from Atlanta?


Regardless, Buttigieg was appointed specifically to unwind the first Trump administration standards for ATCs.

The Biden transportation secretary publicly stated he thought the federal ATC workforce "was too white."
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:23     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump admin crumbling on week 2.


Is he pissed media will focus on this and not on EOs? Of course.

Yes. Totally. The focus right now is all the victims of the crash. He needs all the attention on himself. And the blowback is going to be hugely negative towards him & his administration. This is a man who never, ever, ever is accountable for anything negative. He getting out in front and doing his usual carny barker act of, it's-everyone-else's-but mine.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:21     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:There is no way Trump hadn't been told one of the pilots was a black woman before he ranted about DEI. What a disgusting pig.


Assuming a black female pilot is automatically unqualified and a "DEI hire" goes beyond being a disgusting pig.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:21     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/29/us/plane-crash-washington-dc?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare#staffing-was-not-normal-at-airport-tower-according-to-a-preliminary-faa-report

Staffing was short last night at DCA





Not sure that is relevant. ATC saw both planes and communicated with them- no whether the right words were said, I don’t know, but present staff attempted to intervene.


Horrific

I wonder if the plane could have pulled up and aborted the landing approach at any point.

Terrible.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:21     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:There is no way they aren't trying to hide the details of the "VIP" portion of the flight. It will turn out to have been Ivanka, Stephen Miller, or someone's kid getting a free ride.


I’m sure that information is now classified!
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:20     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
I am confused, thought the pilot has been identified as a guy from Atlanta?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:20     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
FAFO. More to come.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:20     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Is Trump going to go to FAA and the ATC and ask them what they need, what he can give them? It sounds like ATC needs a lot more people - do they need funds for hiring?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:19     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will Trump’s statement about the cause/reason for the crash impact the investigation?

Will the investigation only look at DEI issues to prove Trump correct?


NTAB investigations take a long time (many months) but are not political. We will know everything that happened and what went wrong in the report - but it will take a very long time.


In the past they haven't been political.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:18     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYT reporting two helicopter pilots: one male, one female.


And zero nav instrument flying skills or line of sight skills.


Or not taking their job seriously. Looking at the pretty monuments. Maybe taking a selfie or two.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:18     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:There is no way Trump hadn't been told one of the pilots was a black woman before he ranted about DEI. What a disgusting pig.


Can you ever think of a plane crash when a political leader blamed the dead? F*** him for blaming a blameless black woman pilot. and F*** him for not having the morals or brain to say something comforting rather than adding to the misery that we have a ghoul for President.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:18     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYT reporting two helicopter pilots: one male, one female.


Helo pilot was a black woman. This will get interesting.


I bet if you look at the vast majority of aviation accidents you will find that men were responsible, lol.

By "interesting", I assume you enjoy reading stories about mistakes made by "others" and firestorms of slander. That reflects poorly on you.


DP. Tell that to the president and Hegseth.