Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 20:48     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Her marketing team is pushing the implication that her traditional Christian religion led to the implosion of her marriage (see the latest NY times review). For those of us that have been following her for years, we know the opposite is true. She threw away her traditional “religion” long ago. If anything, her life should be a cautionary tale of the opposite - deconstructing your faith may very well lead to deconstructing your life.


The entire deconstruction phenomenon is largely dishonest. It's a combination of the people who are pushing it lying to other people, and the people who are doing it lying to themselves. There is no genuine life to be found in it.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 18:56     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The timeline is interesting too.
Their collective faith deconstruction started in 2016. According to Brando, their marriage started spiraling in 2017 (this was the beginning of the 3 years of no intimacy). It doesn’t seem like either of them have the self-awareness to acknowledge this…..

According to the same Brandon who cheated?


She has also publicly stated that they weren’t intimate, and that their trouble started around this time frame.


Because he was depressed, drinking and taking pills. His life went downhill and she couldn't save him, let alone the marriage.

Addiction and adultery will kill a marriage.


No one ever knows what goes on in a marriage or the multiple reasons it falls apart. It’s like the chicken and egg. Which came first? A complete rejection of their faith by Jen which Brandon had an identity crisis or had difficulty dealing with thus depression and drinking. And no intimacy. Or withdrawal and depression and drinking by Brandon thus hurt and confusion and anger and feeling rejected in Jen thus no intimacy.

Either way, it spiraled after the faith deconstruction. With multiple emotions and adjustments of beliefs and shifting of what had been their very foundations. Both say this is when it started.


Her marketing team is pushing the implication that her traditional Christian religion led to the implosion of her marriage (see the latest NY times review). For those of us that have been following her for years, we know the opposite is true. She threw away her traditional “religion” long ago. If anything, her life should be a cautionary tale of the opposite - deconstructing your faith may very well lead to deconstructing your life.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 17:14     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
For reference, this was Jen’s last “manifesto’s” first and second week book sales.

Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire: The Guide to Being Glorious You (Thomas Nelson, Apr. 21), the latest book by bestselling author Jen Hatmaker, surpassed over 17,000 print units sold in its first week, according to NPD BookScan. (It sold another 9,000 copies in its second week on sale).
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 16:58     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The timeline is interesting too.
Their collective faith deconstruction started in 2016. According to Brando, their marriage started spiraling in 2017 (this was the beginning of the 3 years of no intimacy). It doesn’t seem like either of them have the self-awareness to acknowledge this…..

According to the same Brandon who cheated?


She has also publicly stated that they weren’t intimate, and that their trouble started around this time frame.


Because he was depressed, drinking and taking pills. His life went downhill and she couldn't save him, let alone the marriage.

Addiction and adultery will kill a marriage.


No one ever knows what goes on in a marriage or the multiple reasons it falls apart. It’s like the chicken and egg. Which came first? A complete rejection of their faith by Jen which Brandon had an identity crisis or had difficulty dealing with thus depression and drinking. And no intimacy. Or withdrawal and depression and drinking by Brandon thus hurt and confusion and anger and feeling rejected in Jen thus no intimacy.

Either way, it spiraled after the faith deconstruction. With multiple emotions and adjustments of beliefs and shifting of what had been their very foundations. Both say this is when it started.


Edited to add and adultery by Brandon. Was not letting him off the hook.


Shakey faith. Increased drinking.

He was drinking when he was in the accident where his friend died.

Brandon was injured. Took pills

Got depressed. No more faith.

More pills and drinking + three year decline in marriage

Adultary

Divorce

The timeline is pretty clear.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 16:53     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The timeline is interesting too.
Their collective faith deconstruction started in 2016. According to Brando, their marriage started spiraling in 2017 (this was the beginning of the 3 years of no intimacy). It doesn’t seem like either of them have the self-awareness to acknowledge this…..

According to the same Brandon who cheated?


She has also publicly stated that they weren’t intimate, and that their trouble started around this time frame.


Because he was depressed, drinking and taking pills. His life went downhill and she couldn't save him, let alone the marriage.

Addiction and adultery will kill a marriage.


No one ever knows what goes on in a marriage or the multiple reasons it falls apart. It’s like the chicken and egg. Which came first? A complete rejection of their faith by Jen which Brandon had an identity crisis or had difficulty dealing with thus depression and drinking. And no intimacy. Or withdrawal and depression and drinking by Brandon thus hurt and confusion and anger and feeling rejected in Jen thus no intimacy.

Either way, it spiraled after the faith deconstruction. With multiple emotions and adjustments of beliefs and shifting of what had been their very foundations. Both say this is when it started.


Edited to add and adultery by Brandon. Was not letting him off the hook.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 16:36     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The timeline is interesting too.
Their collective faith deconstruction started in 2016. According to Brando, their marriage started spiraling in 2017 (this was the beginning of the 3 years of no intimacy). It doesn’t seem like either of them have the self-awareness to acknowledge this…..

According to the same Brandon who cheated?


She has also publicly stated that they weren’t intimate, and that their trouble started around this time frame.


Because he was depressed, drinking and taking pills. His life went downhill and she couldn't save him, let alone the marriage.

Addiction and adultery will kill a marriage.


No one ever knows what goes on in a marriage or the multiple reasons it falls apart. It’s like the chicken and egg. Which came first? A complete rejection of their faith by Jen which Brandon had an identity crisis or had difficulty dealing with thus depression and drinking. And no intimacy. Or withdrawal and depression and drinking by Brandon thus hurt and confusion and anger and feeling rejected in Jen thus no intimacy.

Either way, it spiraled after the faith deconstruction. With multiple emotions and adjustments of beliefs and shifting of what had been their very foundations. Both say this is when it started.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 11:59     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The timeline is interesting too.
Their collective faith deconstruction started in 2016. According to Brando, their marriage started spiraling in 2017 (this was the beginning of the 3 years of no intimacy). It doesn’t seem like either of them have the self-awareness to acknowledge this…..

According to the same Brandon who cheated?


She has also publicly stated that they weren’t intimate, and that their trouble started around this time frame.


Because he was depressed, drinking and taking pills. His life went downhill and she couldn't save him, let alone the marriage.

Addiction and adultery will kill a marriage.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 11:53     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The timeline is interesting too.
Their collective faith deconstruction started in 2016. According to Brando, their marriage started spiraling in 2017 (this was the beginning of the 3 years of no intimacy). It doesn’t seem like either of them have the self-awareness to acknowledge this…..

According to the same Brandon who cheated?


She has also publicly stated that they weren’t intimate, and that their trouble started around this time frame.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 11:38     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Ha! I just saw the book and Brando's response made TMZ's facebook page. Insanity.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 11:33     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Meh. He’s as much of an attention whore as she is.


Indeed

I hear his message, and how divorces are really shades of gray for a long period of time. He doesn't mention his pill and alcohol addiction that fed into the three year downfall, and lasted much longer than 2017-2020.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 11:27     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Jen at the Grand Ole Opry? What in the Roy Acuff is this? And she doesn’t have the courtesy to say Loveless Cafe or Soda Shop or any other Nashville landmark- she goes to Tyler’s house, y’all!

Her publicist has Gandalf-level powers, my goodness.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 11:21     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:The timeline is interesting too.
Their collective faith deconstruction started in 2016. According to Brando, their marriage started spiraling in 2017 (this was the beginning of the 3 years of no intimacy). It doesn’t seem like either of them have the self-awareness to acknowledge this…..

According to the same Brandon who cheated?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 11:17     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Kardashians? They wish.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 10:36     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
The Hatmakers are so messy.

Tell-all book that dredges up a bunch of old painful memories for all involved, TMZ articles with the new wife defending herself, Brandon launching a substack. The Kardashians of the American church.

When lifelong try-hards and pick me! girls hit middle age.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 10:21     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Meh. He’s as much of an attention whore as she is.