Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:55
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
You're like a slippery worm that continuously purposely misinterprets facts and details just to maintain a narrative.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:51
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:US Soccer set dates based on birth dates. Grades are not part of their rules.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Showcases going GY works then clubs don't have to create and explain bizarre treatment of August births at younger ages for some leagues but not others. The old rules worked, all birth months have the same treatment, play in tour age bracket or play up.Anonymous wrote:Or do 8//1 with a rule that Aug birthdays can't play down with a younger grade. Which provides the same result as 9/1+30.
What is "bizarre" about making Aug players play against kids in their grade not the grade below them?
You're trying every excuse in the book. But it doesnt matter people are starting to understand why 9/1+30 makes so much sense.
I agree which is why US Soccer supports BY.
Its ECNL and their buddies in all the littles leagues who want to bring grade into the discussion.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:49
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:There is no 8/1 guy or 9/1 guy. Not for or against anything. Leagues made the rules for a reason. You not liking hearing what leagues are doing isn't relevant.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im glad thr 9/1+30 guy is forcing the 8/1 guy to see (kicking and screaming) that change can be good. 8/1 guy is just being a stubborn troll.
I agree with 9/1+30 that if leagues stay with 8/1 that they're going to implement a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play fown. The reason for this is because there's no advantage in allowing playing down. In fact it actually causes problems as players get older with recruiters.
The 8/1 troll monitors this thread. He's probably sleeping. In a couple of hours he'll be back pushing the same nonsense.
I don't understand what he gets from allowing Aug birthdays to play down. Maybe his kid is an Aug birthday and he views it as a way to make them a superstar.
That is dumb.
Leagues said they changed from BY to SY because they thought allowing more players to play with kids in their grade would translate into more players. Ironically this is the same arguement they said back in 2017 when switching from SY to BY.
Your ECNL guy even said they dont want players playing down. He knows GY would decimate youth soccer participation.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:49
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
US Soccer set dates based on birth dates. Grades are not part of their rules.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Showcases going GY works then clubs don't have to create and explain bizarre treatment of August births at younger ages for some leagues but not others. The old rules worked, all birth months have the same treatment, play in tour age bracket or play up.Anonymous wrote:Or do 8//1 with a rule that Aug birthdays can't play down with a younger grade. Which provides the same result as 9/1+30.
What is "bizarre" about making Aug players play against kids in their grade not the grade below them?
You're trying every excuse in the book. But it doesnt matter people are starting to understand why 9/1+30 makes so much sense.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:40
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
There is no 8/1 guy or 9/1 guy. Not for or against anything. Leagues made the rules for a reason. You not liking hearing what leagues are doing isn't relevant.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im glad thr 9/1+30 guy is forcing the 8/1 guy to see (kicking and screaming) that change can be good. 8/1 guy is just being a stubborn troll.
I agree with 9/1+30 that if leagues stay with 8/1 that they're going to implement a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play fown. The reason for this is because there's no advantage in allowing playing down. In fact it actually causes problems as players get older with recruiters.
The 8/1 troll monitors this thread. He's probably sleeping. In a couple of hours he'll be back pushing the same nonsense.
I don't understand what he gets from allowing Aug birthdays to play down. Maybe his kid is an Aug birthday and he views it as a way to make them a superstar.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:36
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
TAnonymous wrote:Im glad thr 9/1+30 guy is forcing the 8/1 guy to see (kicking and screaming) that change can be good. 8/1 guy is just being a stubborn troll.
I agree with 9/1+30 that if leagues stay with 8/1 that they're going to implement a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play fown. The reason for this is because there's no advantage in allowing playing down. In fact it actually causes problems as players get older with recruiters.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:35
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Im glad thr 9/1+30 guy is forcing the 8/1 guy to see (kicking and screaming) that change can be good. 8/1 guy is just being a stubborn troll.
I agree with 9/1+30 that if leagues stay with 8/1 that they're going to implement a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play fown. The reason for this is because there's no advantage in allowing playing down. In fact it actually causes problems as players get older with recruiters.
The 8/1 troll monitors this thread. He's probably sleeping. In a couple of hours he'll be back pushing the same nonsense.
I don't understand what he gets from allowing Aug birthdays to play down. Maybe his kid is an Aug birthday and he views it as a way to make them a superstar.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:34
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Parents of 6 year olds aren't going to care know about showcases in high school, attended by relatively few, let alone care that they are GY.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Showcases going GY works then clubs don't have to create and explain bizarre treatment of August births at younger ages for some leagues but not others. The old rules worked, all birth months have the same treatment, play in tour age bracket or play up.Anonymous wrote:Or do 8//1 with a rule that Aug birthdays can't play down with a younger grade. Which provides the same result as 9/1+30.
GY will kill the number of players and teams that currently exist. This is because players will quickly see that the only way to compete is to play down themselves. Most people wont do this so they'll just choose not to play.
As long as clubs control youth soccer GY will never happen.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:25
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Im glad thr 9/1+30 guy is forcing the 8/1 guy to see (kicking and screaming) that change can be good. 8/1 guy is just being a stubborn troll.
I agree with 9/1+30 that if leagues stay with 8/1 that they're going to implement a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play fown. The reason for this is because there's no advantage in allowing playing down. In fact it actually causes problems as players get older with recruiters.
I agree with 9/1+30 that if leagues stay with 8/1 that they're going to implement a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play fown. The reason for this is because there's no advantage in allowing playing down. In fact it actually causes problems as players get older with recruiters.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:08
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Showcases going GY works then clubs don't have to create and explain bizarre treatment of August births at younger ages for some leagues but not others. The old rules worked, all birth months have the same treatment, play in tour age bracket or play up.Anonymous wrote:Or do 8//1 with a rule that Aug birthdays can't play down with a younger grade. Which provides the same result as 9/1+30.
What is "bizarre" about making Aug players play against kids in their grade not the grade below them?
You're trying every excuse in the book. But it doesnt matter people are starting to understand why 9/1+30 makes so much sense.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 07:03
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Showcases going GY works then clubs don't have to create and explain bizarre treatment of August births at younger ages for some leagues but not others. The old rules worked, all birth months have the same treatment, play in tour age bracket or play up.Anonymous wrote:Or do 8//1 with a rule that Aug birthdays can't play down with a younger grade. Which provides the same result as 9/1+30.
GY will kill the number of players and teams that currently exist. This is because players will quickly see that the only way to compete is to play down themselves. Most people wont do this so they'll just choose not to play.
As long as clubs control youth soccer GY will never happen.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 06:44
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Showcases going GY works then clubs don't have to create and explain bizarre treatment of August births at younger ages for some leagues but not others. The old rules worked, all birth months have the same treatment, play in tour age bracket or play up.Anonymous wrote:Or do 8//1 with a rule that Aug birthdays can't play down with a younger grade. Which provides the same result as 9/1+30.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 06:35
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Or do 8//1 with a rule that Aug birthdays can't play down with a younger grade. Which provides the same result as 9/1+30.
Anonymous
09/02/2025 06:31
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Showcases going grade year will make figuring grades out pretty easy.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. Do people think there is some advantage to an August kid playing down a grade as opposed to an August kid playing on grade?
Yes you are confused.
Aug birthdays playing down (typically for wins at a younger age) causes problems when they get older. This is because college coaches wont know how to evaluate them because they're Freshman, Sophomores, Juniors, Seniors playing against players a year younger than they are in school. What will happen is recruiters will just ignore the player and they'll get screwed out of playing in college.
So college coaches can’t read what year the players they are watching will graduate? How have they been evaluating the Aug - Dec trapped kids all these years?
With the cutoff being Aug, it allows those Aug kids to play up if they want or play “down.” Not sure what the problem is. If they’re good enough to be recruited in college (since you’re worried about the college coaches ability to read) then they can play up without any issues.
Also, making it sound as if an August kid playing down is some sort of huge advantage for the kids team because of their grade. That’s not the case and no more an advantage than having a team with a bunch of Jan kids.
To answer your question --- yes -- most college coaches cannot figure out when people will graduate and it makes trapped players have a tougher road. Of course they know once they have invested time in you but before that -- no.
Or just do 9/1+30 which provides the same thing (all players on the field during a game the same grade) but without the regrades/holdbacks.
Anonymous
09/01/2025 23:22
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Showcases going grade year will make figuring grades out pretty easy.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. Do people think there is some advantage to an August kid playing down a grade as opposed to an August kid playing on grade?
Yes you are confused.
Aug birthdays playing down (typically for wins at a younger age) causes problems when they get older. This is because college coaches wont know how to evaluate them because they're Freshman, Sophomores, Juniors, Seniors playing against players a year younger than they are in school. What will happen is recruiters will just ignore the player and they'll get screwed out of playing in college.
So college coaches can’t read what year the players they are watching will graduate? How have they been evaluating the Aug - Dec trapped kids all these years?
With the cutoff being Aug, it allows those Aug kids to play up if they want or play “down.” Not sure what the problem is. If they’re good enough to be recruited in college (since you’re worried about the college coaches ability to read) then they can play up without any issues.
Also, making it sound as if an August kid playing down is some sort of huge advantage for the kids team because of their grade. That’s not the case and no more an advantage than having a team with a bunch of Jan kids.
To answer your question --- yes -- most college coaches cannot figure out when people will graduate and it makes trapped players have a tougher road. Of course they know once they have invested time in you but before that -- no.