Centreville and Chantilly both have modulars and trailers.
Westfield has trailers
South Lakes has trailers.

According to the dashboard, Oakton has neither trailers or modular.

This school is needed to relieve overcrowding if getting rid of modulars and trailers is a goal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

seems like only chantilly will be overcrowded.

Most of the capacity is also based on several trailers/modules too right?. In general all the high schools are several hundred kids over what would be an ideal number.

Yes.

No. Trailers are not included in capacity calculations. Those of you who don’t know this should not be participating in the thread.

Nor is there an “ideal number” of kids for a HS in FCPS right now, or else they wouldn’t have expanded schools like Herndon and Oakton as much as they did.

According to the FCPS website they are included in the capacity calculation.

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review/glossary-terms

Modulars are included in capacity calculation. Trailers are not. The confirmation is in the link you posted. Trailers only add instructional space.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

seems like only chantilly will be overcrowded.

Most of the capacity is also based on several trailers/modules too right?. In general all the high schools are several hundred kids over what would be an ideal number.

Yes.

No. Trailers are not included in capacity calculations. Those of you who don’t know this should not be participating in the thread.

Nor is there an “ideal number” of kids for a HS in FCPS right now, or else they wouldn’t have expanded schools like Herndon and Oakton as much as they did.

According to the FCPS website they are included in the capacity calculation.

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review/glossary-terms

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

seems like only chantilly will be overcrowded.

South Lake, Oakton, Westfield are near capacity. They all got renovation in the past 5 years, and I am not sure whether any of them relies on trailers. I think the number shows Herndon probably won't lose students to the new HS, and Chantilly will definitely lose students, and SL, Oakton, Westfield might have some extremities chopped off, if not keeping everyone due to family lobbying.

False. Neither South Lakes nor Westfield got renovated in the past five years. Some of you people are totally ignorant.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

seems like only chantilly will be overcrowded.

Most of the capacity is also based on several trailers/modules too right?. In general all the high schools are several hundred kids over what would be an ideal number.

Yes.

No. Trailers are not included in capacity calculations. Those of you who don’t know this should not be participating in the thread.

Nor is there an “ideal number” of kids for a HS in FCPS right now, or else they wouldn’t have expanded schools like Herndon and Oakton as much as they did.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

seems like only chantilly will be overcrowded.

Most of the capacity is also based on several trailers/modules too right?. In general all the high schools are several hundred kids over what would be an ideal number.

Yes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

seems like only chantilly will be overcrowded.

South Lake, Oakton, Westfield are near capacity. They all got renovation in the past 5 years, and I am not sure whether any of them relies on trailers. I think the number shows Herndon probably won't lose students to the new HS, and Chantilly will definitely lose students, and SL, Oakton, Westfield might have some extremities chopped off, if not keeping everyone due to family lobbying.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

seems like only chantilly will be overcrowded.

Most of the capacity is also based on several trailers/modules too right?. In general all the high schools are several hundred kids over what would be an ideal number.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

I’m only seeing chantilly and centreville s as being overcapacity. Granted, without an expansion they are projected to be overcapacity in 2029, but I’m not really seeing overcapacity in the area. What am I missing?

New construction in area--South Lakes, Westfield, Chantilly, Oakton

and, Chantilly and Centreville overcapacity equals hundreds of students. Where do you think they should go?


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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

seems like only chantilly will be overcrowded.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

I’m only seeing chantilly and centreville s as being overcapacity. Granted, without an expansion they are projected to be overcapacity in 2029, but I’m not really seeing overcapacity in the area. What am I missing?

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Anonymous wrote:Finally acquiring a site in western Fairfax, with a building no less, and converting it into something other than a neighborhood high school would be one of the largest self-owns in FCPS history.

My kids won’t attend this school either way, and I realize the thread is just sport at this point for some person who wants to bait the folks in the Floris/Oak Hill area, but anyway…

I hate the term gaslighting, but the topic of this thread has taken a pretty overwhelmingly turn in the past few days. I am unlikely to benefit from this school personally, but the obvious use for it is as a traditional high school to serve an area without a neighborhood school. The idea that a magnet school is going to help relieve capacity issues is some trickle down economic thinking.

I’m not sure what you mean by trickle down economic thinking. How is a merit-based magnet related to trickle-down economics?

I am not PP, but the trickle down economic gaslighting is spot on for argument of a second magnet school. Let's say a high school is overcapacity of 110%, For a 2200 student school, that's 200 over capacity. The second magnet school at most can absorb 50 (given not all top 10% of this HS can/will/able to go to the second magnet). So the second magnet school won't get the high school down to below 100% capacity.

Anonymous wrote:

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Messed up bolding. To answer your question of "where?"
South Lakes
Oakton
Westfield
Chantilly
and presently, without addition, Centreville

Is there over crowding? Where?

Link from: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

HS : capacity util now vs. 2029-30
Herndon: 81% vs. 69%
[b]South Lake: 96% vs. 100%
Oakton: 98% vs. 95%
Westfield: 97% vs. 94%
Chantilly: 125% vs. 110%
Centreville: 118% vs. 69% [/b](renovation planned???)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Finally acquiring a site in western Fairfax, with a building no less, and converting it into something other than a neighborhood high school would be one of the largest self-owns in FCPS history.

My kids won’t attend this school either way, and I realize the thread is just sport at this point for some person who wants to bait the folks in the Floris/Oak Hill area, but anyway…

I hate the term gaslighting, but the topic of this thread has taken a pretty overwhelmingly turn in the past few days. I am unlikely to benefit from this school personally, but the obvious use for it is as a traditional high school to serve an area without a neighborhood school. The idea that a magnet school is going to help relieve capacity issues is some trickle down economic thinking.

I’m not sure what you mean by trickle down economic thinking. How is a merit-based magnet related to trickle-down economics?

You seem to just attack magnet based on a vague notion of fairness without actually addressing why that area needs a separate high school. Is there over crowding? Where? Seems like it’s at an elementary school. In fact the numbers posted by a DP up above seem to indicate that there really isn’t overcrowding in the area at the high school level.

Is it split feeder concerns? Sure that’s an argument in favor of a neighborhood school, but it’s not a case-closed type argument. Explain it to us in terms other than we-deserve-it-because-it’s-discussed-in-the-CIP. Why does your community need this and why now? Is your need for the school greater than the benefits of other possible uses for the acquisition?