Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 13:28     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

I don't understand why solving this case is taking so long. It's been about 8 months. The forensic data is what it is. LE must have some forensic data pointing to who killed CB.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 13:06     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully LE gathered Ring camera footage from neighbors, might show when the cars came and went.

That, plus cell phone data plus blood spatter patterns.

Does the Au pair have an explanation of why she called 911, hung up and then called back only after fatally shooting JR? Please please please let her story be that she first hung up because she was unsure what was going on, had a child with her and was safely in the basement, and then went to “investigate” on her own. Because that makes total sense. /s


In the Mark Winger case where a husband set up someone else for the murder of his wife, there was evidence found showing the innocent man was invited over. Interestingly, the evidence only came out because mark winger was so greedy that he sued the innocent man’s employer in a civil suit and the employer performed their own investigation. Coincidentally, the wife’s best friend confessed her affair with winger around the same time and the police reopened the investigation alongside the private investigators.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/families-torn-killer-dad-reflect-years-believed-hero/story?id=77097895

There has to be some evidence from devices showing the same type of link between BB and JR. Even without direct physical evidence, mark winger was sentenced because of all the other evidence - communications, physical scene not matching up with his account, testimony from former affair partner.



Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 13:05     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully LE gathered Ring camera footage from neighbors, might show when the cars came and went.

That, plus cell phone data plus blood spatter patterns.

Does the Au pair have an explanation of why she called 911, hung up and then called back only after fatally shooting JR? Please please please let her story be that she first hung up because she was unsure what was going on, had a child with her and was safely in the basement, and then went to “investigate” on her own. Because that makes total sense. /s


If you listen to the Sport Junkies audio where the FFX Co. Chief was a guest, he says yes Ring footage has helped and if anyone has video they haven't provided to do so.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 12:20     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully LE gathered Ring camera footage from neighbors, might show when the cars came and went.

That, plus cell phone data plus blood spatter patterns.

Does the Au pair have an explanation of why she called 911, hung up and then called back only after fatally shooting JR? Please please please let her story be that she first hung up because she was unsure what was going on, had a child with her and was safely in the basement, and then went to “investigate” on her own. Because that makes total sense. /s


That is exactly what AP's lawyer represented to the court during her bond hearing.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 12:16     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Hopefully LE gathered Ring camera footage from neighbors, might show when the cars came and went.

That, plus cell phone data plus blood spatter patterns.

Does the Au pair have an explanation of why she called 911, hung up and then called back only after fatally shooting JR? Please please please let her story be that she first hung up because she was unsure what was going on, had a child with her and was safely in the basement, and then went to “investigate” on her own. Because that makes total sense. /s
jsteele
Post 10/30/2023 12:10     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In this thread, does VA = LE?

I'm getting confused. I thought they were the same thing.


LE makes arrests, the State of VA prosecutes, same team.


Just to be pedantic, Virginia is a commonwealth and the Commonwealth's Attorney prosecutes.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 11:38     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ To reiterate, VA's version is that JR was shot by AP when BB was outside of the home. That is irreconcilable with the narrative of her attorney above.


And it seems like the forensic evidence would show whether he was shot with two different guns/bullets or the same gun.

I had assumed AP's version was made to fit the evidence. But, if VA is saying that only the AP shot Joe, and BB was not in the home -- that is not going to square with AP's version.


That is not what VA said, they have not addressed crimes that may have been committed by BB, to date, charges focus on AP. LE has said BB was not in the house when AP shot JR. So, irreconcilable with her tale.


+1
They are being intentionally careful with their wording. Go back and listen to their press conference. People are insinuating what they’re saying, without really listening to the careful wording.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:47     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:In this thread, does VA = LE?

I'm getting confused. I thought they were the same thing.


LE makes arrests, the State of VA prosecutes, same team.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:25     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

In this thread, does VA = LE?

I'm getting confused. I thought they were the same thing.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:24     Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This has gone too far when people are conjecturing about how they afford their lifestyle. FYI - Tesla's can cost less than a Jeep.


Stop it with the nanny language police.

And you make no sense. "Teslas can cost less than a Jeep." Uh, ok, and both still are a financial stretch for a fed, a nurse and a family with expensive in home childcare. Never mind when ONE EARNER IS NOW DEAD, cutting income significantly.

I think it "went too far" when BB and au pair started swanning around like "the last of the real ones" IRL in public and on socials, not to mention it was WAY TOO FAR when 2 human beings were MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD, but that's just me. Gossip about the neighbor's stuff and what it costs? It's called keeping up with the Joneses!


Having an aupair is cheaper than a nanny or daycare when you need to accommodate a nurse's schedule.


This, plus BB's schedule may have varied and not been a 9-5 too. Regardless of what anyone thinks or guesses about their incomes, they had a string of au pairs. The last one extended and that has ended tragically.

An arrest for the stabbing of CB still to come. Not AP, she would have been charged, not JR, LE says he is the victim. LE claims all parties involved have been identified and that AP and BB were "present and involved" the day of the murders. Tick tock.

Anyone with any info, affair partners of BB, au pairs who knew AP or saw her concerning posts, PLEASE contact authorities. Not only should JR and CB get justice but a little girl should be safe.



I have seen this call here a few times but I'm not understanding what exactly people can do. What, beyond the forensics they already have from the crime scene and the digital records, would people who are essentially character witnesses have to offer in the investigation that the police do not know already? It seems like the missing piece they might be looking for to arrest/charge and start the clock on trial is actually tying BB physically to the murder of CB.


LE says they are continuing interviews and forensic work. If you are personally close to the case, share any information and let them do with it what they will.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:22     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ To reiterate, VA's version is that JR was shot by AP when BB was outside of the home. That is irreconcilable with the narrative of her attorney above.


And it seems like the forensic evidence would show whether he was shot with two different guns/bullets or the same gun.

I had assumed AP's version was made to fit the evidence. But, if VA is saying that only the AP shot Joe, and BB was not in the home -- that is not going to square with AP's version.


That is not what VA said, they have not addressed crimes that may have been committed by BB, to date, charges focus on AP. LE has said BB was not in the house when AP shot JR. So, irreconcilable with her tale.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:18     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:^ To reiterate, VA's version is that JR was shot by AP when BB was outside of the home. That is irreconcilable with the narrative of her attorney above.


And it seems like the forensic evidence would show whether he was shot with two different guns/bullets or the same gun.

I had assumed AP's version was made to fit the evidence. But, if VA is saying that only the AP shot Joe, and BB was not in the home -- that is not going to square with AP's version.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 09:56     Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This has gone too far when people are conjecturing about how they afford their lifestyle. FYI - Tesla's can cost less than a Jeep.


Stop it with the nanny language police.

And you make no sense. "Teslas can cost less than a Jeep." Uh, ok, and both still are a financial stretch for a fed, a nurse and a family with expensive in home childcare. Never mind when ONE EARNER IS NOW DEAD, cutting income significantly.

I think it "went too far" when BB and au pair started swanning around like "the last of the real ones" IRL in public and on socials, not to mention it was WAY TOO FAR when 2 human beings were MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD, but that's just me. Gossip about the neighbor's stuff and what it costs? It's called keeping up with the Joneses!


Having an aupair is cheaper than a nanny or daycare when you need to accommodate a nurse's schedule.


This, plus BB's schedule may have varied and not been a 9-5 too. Regardless of what anyone thinks or guesses about their incomes, they had a string of au pairs. The last one extended and that has ended tragically.

An arrest for the stabbing of CB still to come. Not AP, she would have been charged, not JR, LE says he is the victim. LE claims all parties involved have been identified and that AP and BB were "present and involved" the day of the murders. Tick tock.

Anyone with any info, affair partners of BB, au pairs who knew AP or saw her concerning posts, PLEASE contact authorities. Not only should JR and CB get justice but a little girl should be safe.



I have seen this call here a few times but I'm not understanding what exactly people can do. What, beyond the forensics they already have from the crime scene and the digital records, would people who are essentially character witnesses have to offer in the investigation that the police do not know already? It seems like the missing piece they might be looking for to arrest/charge and start the clock on trial is actually tying BB physically to the murder of CB.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 09:37     Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This has gone too far when people are conjecturing about how they afford their lifestyle. FYI - Tesla's can cost less than a Jeep.


Stop it with the nanny language police.

And you make no sense. "Teslas can cost less than a Jeep." Uh, ok, and both still are a financial stretch for a fed, a nurse and a family with expensive in home childcare. Never mind when ONE EARNER IS NOW DEAD, cutting income significantly.

I think it "went too far" when BB and au pair started swanning around like "the last of the real ones" IRL in public and on socials, not to mention it was WAY TOO FAR when 2 human beings were MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD, but that's just me. Gossip about the neighbor's stuff and what it costs? It's called keeping up with the Joneses!


Having an aupair is cheaper than a nanny or daycare when you need to accommodate a nurse's schedule.


This, plus BB's schedule may have varied and not been a 9-5 too. Regardless of what anyone thinks or guesses about their incomes, they had a string of au pairs. The last one extended and that has ended tragically.

An arrest for the stabbing of CB still to come. Not AP, she would have been charged, not JR, LE says he is the victim. LE claims all parties involved have been identified and that AP and BB were "present and involved" the day of the murders. Tick tock.

Anyone with any info, affair partners of BB, au pairs who knew AP or saw her concerning posts, PLEASE contact authorities. Not only should JR and CB get justice but a little girl should be safe.

Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 08:49     Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of thief? Wouldn't that come up in a background check or was it a juvie thing?

I've yet to see anyone talk about BB in a positive way except CB and AP and AP just wanted his money and was psycho. She may have been jealous of a preschooler who just lost her Mom, at the hands of AP and BB. Birds of a feather as they say...

Her story and that of the state seem irreconcilable in key respects. Maybe she is a loon.

it was earlier on this thread. Guy was training him and said he knew bb was stealing from their bank (?) but couldn’t prove it.


I also knew BB personally about a decade ago and he actually bragged to me that he stole about 10k from a bank he was working at. He was positive he would never be caught because there was no proof. It was a Capital One if my memory serves me right.


Oh please, this PP is 100% a troll.


Not a troll. Just knew him reeeeally well for about a year.



If you were an affair partner, I hope you’ll offer that information to the prosecution