Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 12:29     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Started listening to the interview last night while tidying my kitchen and good night Jamie’s intro clocks in 11 whole minutes before the interview even begins !
Is this a thing now ? Staggered, endless intros before actual advertised content? I see it on documentaries all the time now.
Poor Brandon just wanted to get divorced and move on with life but no Jen is going to tell anyone who will listen about it. I wonder if he is getting a cut of the profits ?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 12:28     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Can someone please post what Brandon wrote. I don’t have Instagram
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 10:33     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Can we lock this thread already? What else is there possibly to say about this random lady?


Not as long as she keeps giving us material.

If she’s random to you, and you don’t like or get it, why do you even open the thread?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 09:39     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone see Brandon's IG post last night?


It was an excellent post, honestly. Protective of his wife but full of graciousness and care. Well done, Brandon. I hope you are happier now.

This hideous book trails a metric shit ton of debris in its wake for a whole lot of people five years plus later. All in service to Jen. When Awake has quickly fallen off any Best Seller charts and is being remained for pennies on the dollar never making back its advance I hope it was all worth it Jen.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 09:35     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone see Brandon's IG post last night?


I did. I didn't listen to her podcast, but is she implying Tina was the other woman during that discovery of his infidelity? If not, I guess Jen's people are going after Tina? But I haven't seen anything online about people attacking her, either. This is all so messy.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 09:33     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the non-stop complaining about purity culture, misogyny, etc. has just become mindless cliches of the deconstruction, exvangelical, call-it-whatever-you-want movement of people who desperately want to be victims but who have largely lived comfortable, privileged lives. It's both vapid and gross.


Amen. The very same people that were preaching the purity culture not that long ago.

Basically, they will exalt whatever structure is benefiting them. Jen's church community was "so dear" for so many years. Years that she seemed to not notice did not include many people, were being excluded for reasons like being divorced, still being single, having very high need children, being gay, whatever.

Since that time, there have been many memoirs written by people that needed (really) to leave their cult like religious group and deconstruct. The Netlfix series of the Orthodox Jewish woman for example. The ladies that had to break out of the fringe group in the Morman church with multiple ACTUAL child brides, no education, and no choices. People's whose patriarchal religions truly isolated them instead of sending them on speaking engagements around the country and writing best selling self help groups and blogs that reached millions. Anyway, these stories included brainwashing, child brides, oppression, expectation to get married, etc. They had to escape and rebuilt, and these stories - both Netflix and a few paperbacks I've read, sold very well, and garnered sympathy. And so Jen's story is also rewritten, kind of a very weird appropriation.



People forget that Jen literally built up a church in her own image. She was the motivating factor behind it all, not her ex. It was a church she launched after the supposed pain and horrors of being in the "mega church machine". Now, it appears that not even the church SHE built up and where SHE was the center of wasn't enough for her monstrous and huge ego. Imagine having that absurd privilege and now putting the "church" on blast 24/7? This woman is a toxic me monster of the highest order. She's like a vampire and will use whatever she can for her own personal advancement. Anyone who looks up to her as some sort of "teacher" or "leader" is a fool.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 08:40     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Did anyone see Brandon's IG post last night?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 08:01     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Can we lock this thread already? What else is there possibly to say about this random lady?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 06:47     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:All the non-stop complaining about purity culture, misogyny, etc. has just become mindless cliches of the deconstruction, exvangelical, call-it-whatever-you-want movement of people who desperately want to be victims but who have largely lived comfortable, privileged lives. It's both vapid and gross.


Amen. The very same people that were preaching the purity culture not that long ago.

Basically, they will exalt whatever structure is benefiting them. Jen's church community was "so dear" for so many years. Years that she seemed to not notice did not include many people, were being excluded for reasons like being divorced, still being single, having very high need children, being gay, whatever.

Since that time, there have been many memoirs written by people that needed (really) to leave their cult like religious group and deconstruct. The Netlfix series of the Orthodox Jewish woman for example. The ladies that had to break out of the fringe group in the Morman church with multiple ACTUAL child brides, no education, and no choices. People's whose patriarchal religions truly isolated them instead of sending them on speaking engagements around the country and writing best selling self help groups and blogs that reached millions. Anyway, these stories included brainwashing, child brides, oppression, expectation to get married, etc. They had to escape and rebuilt, and these stories - both Netflix and a few paperbacks I've read, sold very well, and garnered sympathy. And so Jen's story is also rewritten, kind of a very weird appropriation.

Anonymous
Post 09/10/2025 05:22     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
All the non-stop complaining about purity culture, misogyny, etc. has just become mindless cliches of the deconstruction, exvangelical, call-it-whatever-you-want movement of people who desperately want to be victims but who have largely lived comfortable, privileged lives. It's both vapid and gross.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2025 21:20     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:.
- blamed purity culture for how she hated her body, etc. Says she thinks the current youth culture has a healthier sexual ethos than the one she was raised in (...but of course she didn't speak to how the current culture of hook-ups, body counts, etc. is absolutely just as damaging, if not more. She just painted her experience as bad and anything more liberating as good or healthy.


More evidence you are wrong. https://isr.umich.edu/news-events/news-releases/american-young-adults-report-having-fewer-sexual-partners-higher-rates-of-abstention/#:~:text=American%20young%20adults%20report%20having,abstention%20%7C%20Institute%20for%20Social%20Research
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2025 21:18     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Says she thinks the current youth culture has a healthier sexual ethos than the one she was raised in (...but of course she didn't speak to how the current culture of hook-ups, body counts, etc. is absolutely just as damaging, if not more. She just painted her experience as bad and anything more liberating as good or healthy.


Well now you’re just lying to prove your point.

According to a 2015 study, the average number of lifetime sexual partners for millennials was lower (8.26) than for baby boomers (11.68) when they were the same age. Another analysis showed the number of lifetime partners peaking with Generation X and then declining for millennials.

Reduced casual sex: Casual sex has also decreased among young adults. A Rutgers University study analyzing data from 2007 to 2017 found that the percentage of 18- to 23-year-olds having casual sex in the past month dropped for both men and women.

Do you have any evidence to support your claim of “hook-ups and body counts?” Because I have lots to support that you are wrong. I will acknowledge that may be the behavior of people on your social circles but is not the trend among Americans.

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/why-are-young-adults-having-less-casual-sex#:~:text=The%2520study%252C%2520published%2520in%2520the,of%2520delayed%2520transition%2520into%2520adulthood.%E2%80%9D


Anonymous
Post 09/09/2025 21:13     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Married at 21. Not “babies”. Twenty eight years later, four kids in tow, all now adults doing well, still together as a couple.
We weren’t victims, Jen.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2025 20:38     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
25 years ago, a week after high school graduation, we watched our 18 year old childhood girlfriend marry our twenty-five year old Methodist Church Youth Minister. 👀😭 It was weird but 100% blessed by their parents.

The couple is still together. She is 100%a traditional, homeschooling wife who loved Ruby Franke. 😬
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2025 20:33     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Going on podcasts to spill the sad desolation of your 26 year old marriage with strangers to sell books is next level messy. Hard pass. Pure trash.