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Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

This article is weird because it lumps clueless at best and most likely racist behavior on Blake's part with tangentially tying Ryan to the death of a black woman on one of his sets. I think the article is written to somehow imply that race was an issue in that case, but doesn't even suggest that and doesn't suggest that Ryan had anything at all to do with what happened. The only tie is that he was making the movie and while his production company wasn't actually even a defendant in her family's suit, the suit settled after they threatened to add a large number of parties including that production company. I actually think it's incredibly sloppy journalism to equate that to Blake's Antebellum racist nightmare and it makes me think the author had an agenda... making me question whether the Snipes and Johnson anecdotes have anything to do with race (which it's really not clear that they do even by the article's terms).

Ultimately, I am uncomfortable by the work the article does to paint badmouth Reynolds and suspect it is likely a hit piece of the type Stephanie Jones has been behind and the article criticizes.

Disagree that it is sloppy journalism. There is a pattern here. Blake might have acted the same way had JH been white, but the optics are that a black man pulled out his phone to show her something, and she immediately thought it was p-rn. and not only that she let people think that for two weeks in between when the New York Times article ran and when Justin Baldoni’s team got their website up and showed he wasn’t showing her p-rn at work - he was showing her his wife’s birth video in the context of a discussion of a birth scene in the movie. Combine that with the fact that this woman had a lifestyle brand celebrating the antebellum south, and pictures of her wedding meal set up, literally in front of what are very obvious slave quarters.

I actually do think it’s telling that the woman who died on Deadpool was a Black woman. The stunt was supposed to be performed a different way and at the last minute, they changed their mind and let it go without safety precautions. Now clearly no one wanted her to die and it was a tragic accident, but her family had every right to ask for a settlement given the mistakes that were made and the fact that they had to threaten to go public to get the settlement is appalling and inhumane.

Ryan is Deadpool. I don’t just mean it’s his character. It was his set. He has a huge leadership role in that franchise. He, and the people he surrounded himself with to make this franchise, completely disregarded this woman and her family and it’s gross.

I don’t think these things are just random coincidences. These are thoughtless people who sail through life with an incredible disregard for others.

Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

This article is weird because it lumps clueless at best and most likely racist behavior on Blake's part with tangentially tying Ryan to the death of a black woman on one of his sets. I think the article is written to somehow imply that race was an issue in that case, but doesn't even suggest that and doesn't suggest that Ryan had anything at all to do with what happened. The only tie is that he was making the movie and while his production company wasn't actually even a defendant in her family's suit, the suit settled after they threatened to add a large number of parties including that production company. I actually think it's incredibly sloppy journalism to equate that to Blake's Antebellum racist nightmare and it makes me think the author had an agenda... making me question whether the Snipes and Johnson anecdotes have anything to do with race (which it's really not clear that they do even by the article's terms).

Ultimately, I am uncomfortable by the work the article does to paint badmouth Reynolds and suspect it is likely a hit piece of the type Stephanie Jones has been behind and the article criticizes.

Damn, Liman denied Jones' motion to compel Case to submit documents about Nathan directing her to write copy for the Jones leaks website. I really wanted to know more about that!

Granted Jones' lawyer's arguments were pretty lousy, but it feels like Wayfarer is being rewarded for slow-walking discovery and not making their witnesses available until literally the last day.

Very annoying considering he granted Lively's motion to compel the birth video which was dressed up as a "sanctions" motion.

I thought Heath testified it wasn't on his phone, not sure how he's supposed to prove a negative. I don't think Lively is being racist here, just obnoxious, missing the forest for the trees. I'm sure her reaction would be the same if they were white.

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Anonymous wrote:A good way to ensure your wife's home birth video doesn't wind up in discovery in a federal court case is to not bring it into work on you phone and attempt to show it to a colleague to win an argument about whether or not women should be completely naked during child birth.

She got the part she was shown. You sound misogynistic.

We don't know that. Heath's memory could be faulty, just like Lively's could. I'm not a misogyinist but I used to be a litigator, and when there's a factual dispute like this where the jury will have to decide who they believe, both sides need access to discovery that will allow them to make their case.

Had Heath been able to show definitively during discovery that the more objectionable parts of the video were never on his phone or could not possibly have been shown, then I don't think the full video would be discoverable. Like if he could have shown that the full video was only available on a laptop and that the only clips on his phone were the ones he claims he showed Lively. But he couldn't. The video was on his phone, including scenes that show what Lively describes having been shown. He claims he didn't show her that part but maybe he's mistaken. Or maybe she's mistaken. But the judge can decide that, only the jury can.

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Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

NAG posted a video with the picture of her wedding set up in the slave quarters. It’s appalling. No way she’s beating the racism allegations. She has done more harm to her reputation with this lawsuit than Baldoni could’ve ever done.

I agree. The thing is, we all knew she got married in the slave quarters and they have apologized for it and made a donation. It probably would’ve gone away but because of this lawsuit, we just found out that they had a company called Boone Hill LLC that was just dissolved earlier this month when they were outed about it. And I doubt pictures like this would be resurfacing if it wasn’t for this lawsuit.

And I had no idea about the past experiences Reynolds has had with Black costars. That’s kind of an insane pattern.

The funny thing is Blake never really apologized for it. It was Ryan, on their behalf. People think it's sexist for calling out Blake for the wedding when Ryan got married there too, but the reason she deservedly gets the brunt of the hate is because she's the one who launched a website (Preserve) glorifying the antebellum South.

Blake never apologizes for anything, unless it's something like the Kate Middleton sanfu, which, of course. She makes an exception for literal royalty. But being racist or tone deaf about domestic violence? Nah.

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Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

NAG posted a video with the picture of her wedding set up in the slave quarters. It’s appalling. No way she’s beating the racism allegations. She has done more harm to her reputation with this lawsuit than Baldoni could’ve ever done.

I agree. The thing is, we all knew she got married in the slave quarters and they have apologized for it and made a donation. It probably would’ve gone away but because of this lawsuit, we just found out that they had a company called Boone Hill LLC that was just dissolved earlier this month when they were outed about it. And I doubt pictures like this would be resurfacing if it wasn’t for this lawsuit.

And I had no idea about the past experiences Reynolds has had with Black costars. That’s kind of an insane pattern.

Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

NAG posted a video with the picture of her wedding set up in the slave quarters. It’s appalling. No way she’s beating the racism allegations. She has done more harm to her reputation with this lawsuit than Baldoni could’ve ever done.

Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

Anonymous wrote:A good way to ensure your wife's home birth video doesn't wind up in discovery in a federal court case is to not bring it into work on you phone and attempt to show it to a colleague to win an argument about whether or not women should be completely naked during child birth.

She got the part she was shown. You sound misogynistic.

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Anonymous wrote:A good way to ensure your wife's home birth video doesn't wind up in discovery in a federal court case is to not bring it into work on you phone and attempt to show it to a colleague to win an argument about whether or not women should be completely naked during child birth.

I agree it's weird and he made it an issue, but I don't really agree that if he showed a video along the lines of the screenshot in Wayfarer's complaint, which is not explicit and looks like something we could see in a commercial, that means they need to provide the full unedited and explicit video of the entire birth. Mrs. Heath could consent to him showing only those parts that she felt comfortable with, just like Lively had said she was ok sometimes with letting people sit in while she was pumping but could also withdraw her consent.

Then they should offer a settlement because some things are more important than money.

Anonymous wrote:A good way to ensure your wife's home birth video doesn't wind up in discovery in a federal court case is to not bring it into work on you phone and attempt to show it to a colleague to win an argument about whether or not women should be completely naked during child birth.

I agree it's weird and he made it an issue, but I don't really agree that if he showed a video along the lines of the screenshot in Wayfarer's complaint, which is not explicit and looks like something we could see in a commercial, that means they need to provide the full unedited and explicit video of the entire birth. Mrs. Heath could consent to him showing only those parts that she felt comfortable with, just like Lively had said she was ok sometimes with letting people sit in while she was pumping but could also withdraw her consent.

A good way to ensure your wife's home birth video doesn't wind up in discovery in a federal court case is to not bring it into work on you phone and attempt to show it to a colleague to win an argument about whether or not women should be completely naked during child birth.

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Anonymous wrote:The birth video thing is really weird because it’s my understanding it was a water birth. Did they have an under water camera just aimed at her V for several minutes before the baby crowned?

This whole her legs were splayed open like a p$$n video makes no sense whatsoever in that context.

Well, I guess we'll find out soon enough!

Will we though? Judge was very clear that video was to be treated as highly confidential.

Not video, but the issue is being made of whether Blake was shown spread legs so I do imagine we will eventually have testimony on that.

The rest of us were talking about the Heath hime birth video.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The birth video thing is really weird because it’s my understanding it was a water birth. Did they have an under water camera just aimed at her V for several minutes before the baby crowned?

This whole her legs were splayed open like a p$$n video makes no sense whatsoever in that context.

Well, I guess we'll find out soon enough!

Will we though? Judge was very clear that video was to be treated as highly confidential.

Not video, but the issue is being made of whether Blake was shown spread legs so I do imagine we will eventually have testimony on that.