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Anonymous wrote:And welcome to 9/1+30 aka SY+30

Yeah but this all depends on when the kid was supposed to go to school so as to not incentivize holdbacks.

Agreed, it depends on when your kid was born.

But this just highlights how stupid the 8/1 guy is. Very few, 1 out of 12 birthdays (aug birthdays) will have the option of playing down.

See how ridiculious the 8/1 guy is now?

They didn't mention allowing anyone to play down with new SY rules or old SY rules. Only playing down allowed is in MLSN.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s because ECNL showcases will be based off grad year so better as an August kid to stay with the same group/grade rather than play down a grade for league play then have to go up a grade for showcases.

Gy will never happen other than senior year high school .

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. Do people think there is some advantage to an August kid playing down a grade as opposed to an August kid playing on grade?

Yes you are confused.

Aug birthdays playing down (typically for wins at a younger age) causes problems when they get older. This is because college coaches wont know how to evaluate them because they're Freshman, Sophomores, Juniors, Seniors playing against players a year younger than they are in school. What will happen is recruiters will just ignore the player and they'll get screwed out of playing in college.

So college coaches can’t read what year the players they are watching will graduate? How have they been evaluating the Aug - Dec trapped kids all these years?

With the cutoff being Aug, it allows those Aug kids to play up if they want or play “down.” Not sure what the problem is. If they’re good enough to be recruited in college (since you’re worried about the college coaches ability to read) then they can play up without any issues.

Also, making it sound as if an August kid playing down is some sort of huge advantage for the kids team because of their grade. That’s not the case and no more an advantage than having a team with a bunch of Jan kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. Do people think there is some advantage to an August kid playing down a grade as opposed to an August kid playing on grade?

Yes you are confused.

Aug birthdays playing down (typically for wins at a younger age) causes problems when they get older. This is because college coaches wont know how to evaluate them because they're Freshman, Sophomores, Juniors, Seniors playing against players a year younger than they are in school. What will happen is recruiters will just ignore the player and they'll get screwed out of playing in college.

So college coaches can’t read what year the players they are watching will graduate? How have they been evaluating the Aug - Dec trapped kids all these years?

With the cutoff being Aug, it allows those Aug kids to play up if they want or play “down.” Not sure what the problem is. If they’re good enough to be recruited in college (since you’re worried about the college coaches ability to read) then they can play up without any issues.

Also, making it sound as if an August kid playing down is some sort of huge advantage for the kids team because of their grade. That’s not the case and no more an advantage than having a team with a bunch of Jan kids.

I can only surmise the SY+30 guy has so much mentally invested in being right when his ideas are like butts, everyone has one, that he feels he must defend his Frankenstein monster of an convoluted policy to the bitter end. And we are that much dumber for listening to him pich his idea cheat code for his daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:I like how all the 8/1 numbnuts comments are educating all the parents why 9/1+30 is a much better option..

So dumb, doesnt even realize that people consider him a speed bump not to do.

You are delusional. I can't believe that this has to be restated but here goes; this isn't a forum that makes rules or has any say in the rules. Full stop. Educating parents? Oh, the insanity!

You actually wrote "full stop"? Wow...

Hahaha this should tell people all they need to know about this loon.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. Do people think there is some advantage to an August kid playing down a grade as opposed to an August kid playing on grade?

Yes you are confused.

Aug birthdays playing down (typically for wins at a younger age) causes problems when they get older. This is because college coaches wont know how to evaluate them because they're Freshman, Sophomores, Juniors, Seniors playing against players a year younger than they are in school. What will happen is recruiters will just ignore the player and they'll get screwed out of playing in college.

So college coaches can’t read what year the players they are watching will graduate? How have they been evaluating the Aug - Dec trapped kids all these years?

With the cutoff being Aug, it allows those Aug kids to play up if they want or play “down.” Not sure what the problem is. If they’re good enough to be recruited in college (since you’re worried about the college coaches ability to read) then they can play up without any issues.

Also, making it sound as if an August kid playing down is some sort of huge advantage for the kids team because of their grade. That’s not the case and no more an advantage than having a team with a bunch of Jan kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I like how all the 8/1 numbnuts comments are educating all the parents why 9/1+30 is a much better option..

So dumb, doesnt even realize that people consider him a speed bump not to do.

You are delusional. I can't believe that this has to be restated but here goes; this isn't a forum that makes rules or has any say in the rules. Full stop. Educating parents? Oh, the insanity!

Anonymous wrote:I like how all the 8/1 numbnuts comments are educating all the parents why 9/1+30 is a much better option..

So dumb, doesnt even realize that people consider him a speed bump not to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. Do people think there is some advantage to an August kid playing down a grade as opposed to an August kid playing on grade?

Yes you are confused.

Aug birthdays playing down (typically for wins at a younger age) causes problems when they get older. This is because college coaches wont know how to evaluate them because they're Freshman, Sophomores, Juniors, Seniors playing against players a year younger than they are in school. What will happen is recruiters will just ignore the player and they'll get screwed out of playing in college.

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Anonymous wrote:And welcome to 9/1+30 aka SY+30

Yeah but this all depends on when the kid was supposed to go to school so as to not incentivize holdbacks.

Agreed, it depends on when your kid was born.

But this just highlights how stupid the 8/1 guy is. Very few, 1 out of 12 birthdays (aug birthdays) will have the option of playing down.

See how ridiculious the 8/1 guy is now?

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Anonymous wrote:Allowing a year to plan for the switch might have been annoying but it was the correct decision. There will be a rule in place about August kids playing on grade level. ECNL went through all of these major changes to address trapped players. They are not going to allow on grade kids to get bumped to a lower team to accommodate a player who wants to cheat the system and play down a grade level. It’s changing to school year and they will create rules to enforce it. Stand by a few months for the rules is what our Director has said.

Finally someone with some sense.

It just doesnt make sense to allow Aug players to play down a grade.

It's funny because hard 8/1 cutoff guy is getting his butt handed to him + slowly realizing that his position is dunb.

They should go with 9/1 instead of 8/1 to avoid this.

Yes they should have. But here we are. Even if ECNL came up with that rule, which is doubtful most misaligned Aug players won't have that rule in the feeder systems.

It's in all the leagues best interest to have Aug birthdays play with their grade. ECNL doesn't want to work with a lower league that hands them a ball of tangled up Christmas lights. They want everything aligned and setup correctly before getting to them.

Are you seriously this desperate to have your kid play down a grade?

What? My kid is an October I don't care. Last year she had 3 Aug birthdays on her team all in the correct grade a year above her. We all know clubs will make misaligned Aug birthdays play down. You can say choice all you want, but that just won't happen. The message of reducing misalignment went to reducing trapped. Knowing full well that only the unicorns will play up from the beginning.

August kids can play up, it just might 2nd teams instead of first teams. Bam, now August kids can play in college. Your dream fulfilled.

With the effort that SY+ guy put into getting an edge for his daughter, he could have started his own league, made his own rules and merged with one of the other leagues by now.

Anonymous wrote:It’s because ECNL showcases will be based off grad year so better as an August kid to stay with the same group/grade rather than play down a grade for league play then have to go up a grade for showcases.

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Anonymous wrote:And welcome to 9/1+30 aka SY+30

Yeah but this all depends on when the kid was supposed to go to school so as to not incentivize holdbacks.