Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What if…just if…Carroll:
A) Suppressed his predilection until recently
B) Limited his illness to online forums
In the unlikely but not impossible case that both are true, there was no way for parents, teachers, psychics, board members, friends, employers or the IRS to know of his illness. While that will send the finger-pointing virtue signaling keyboard warriors into a frenzy, sometimes there’s not a satisfying answer to very difficult and disturbing situations.
In the affidavit, Carroll says a lot of his (completely disgusting) desires were things he did as a boy in boarding school. If you can stomach it, NCRC and Beauvoir parents should read it. He says many disturbing things, instructing the FBI agent to make it a game.
These desires have been with him for a lifetime. Both schools and kids who have been alone with him need to be completely thoroughly investigated.
Anonymous wrote:What if…just if…Carroll:
A) Suppressed his predilection until recently
B) Limited his illness to online forums
In the unlikely but not impossible case that both are true, there was no way for parents, teachers, psychics, board members, friends, employers or the IRS to know of his illness. While that will send the finger-pointing virtue signaling keyboard warriors into a frenzy, sometimes there’s not a satisfying answer to very difficult and disturbing situations.
Anonymous wrote:I was one of the PP who got a weird feeling about him being off — a gut feeling - but that feeling made me stay away from him, and not go through meetings / outplacement with hjm for my child —- it did not mean that i thought he was a pedo - i had no idea — i just intuitively stayed away from him. The problem ks be may be a sociopath and there may not have been many warning signa that are concrete. I just followed my gut here.
Anonymous wrote:The best way to support the school is to have open third party investigation; if there is nothing on the servers there is nothing to cover up; people can send kids to school with confidence of a thorough investigation leaving no stone unturned.
This is an amazing school and conmunity, it is hard to look at the warts and all, but we must if we want the school to have longevity. Carroll was only there for a small fraction of the school’s history and we should not allow him to bring down the school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You also seem like you wanted some big warning to parents from people that got a feeling that a creep was doing illegal and pervy things online. Nobody is going to say that because newsflash, nobody knew.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you, telling someone to shut up. She’s right, btw. He went undetected and putting blame on people isn’t the answer.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.
Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.
What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?
The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.
That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.
The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.
Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.
I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.
Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.
Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.
You simply don’t know that no one suspected anything. It’s already been stated here by at least two families that something was “off” about him. That’s called a red flag, my friend. No need for them to pinpoint the perp’s crimes.
Those families wisely chose other options.
People get weird feelings about people all the time. Most of the time, those people might just be weird, so they can’t warn people because he slipped under the radar and staff and parents just didn’t know.
Will school staff now be proactive and get better educated about recognizing red flags? Will the school offer their families and community with opportunities for education and actively encourage all parents to attend? Probably not. Demand it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You also seem like you wanted some big warning to parents from people that got a feeling that a creep was doing illegal and pervy things online. Nobody is going to say that because newsflash, nobody knew.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you, telling someone to shut up. She’s right, btw. He went undetected and putting blame on people isn’t the answer.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.
Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.
What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?
The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.
That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.
The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.
Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.
I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.
Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.
Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.
You simply don’t know that no one suspected anything. It’s already been stated here by at least two families that something was “off” about him. That’s called a red flag, my friend. No need for them to pinpoint the perp’s crimes.
Those families wisely chose other options.
People get weird feelings about people all the time. Most of the time, those people might just be weird, so they can’t warn people because he slipped under the radar and staff and parents just didn’t know.
Will school staff now be proactive and get better educated about recognizing red flags? Will the school offer their families and community with opportunities for education and actively encourage all parents to attend? Probably not. Demand it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe parents would pressure other parents to bring their kids to school less than 24 hours after the news broke. That’s really messed up. And exactly the kind of peer dynamics that let institutions off the hook.
It wasn’t pressure in the sense of something evil, as you might imagine. It was more like, “No, you should bring your kids. The teachers and the school need our support,” repeated constantly. There were many text messages encouraging parents to bring their children. In the end, I think more parents decided to keep their kids at home anyway.
The teachers needed time to stay home and process the terrible news too. I can’t believe they were asked to come back the very next day.
Anonymous wrote:Former NCRC parent here - we can’t blame students or faculty for not detecting Carroll; however at this point we can judge how NCRC handles this crisis - so that there is transparency, open dialog, a third party inspector to do a sweep of the school, and that parents feel safe and heard.
Anonymous wrote:I am a former NCRC parent. I thought Mr. Carroll was simply a bit aloof in a British sort of way. Despite that, he greeted me and my child each day with a smile and spoke to us regularly. He was genuinely helpful to our family with outplacement as we sorted through our choices. I am beyond horrified that any child was in the presence of such a grotesque and demented monster. It is honestly traumatizing to read the complaint and realize that while a school full of children was in his care he was in his office in the building actively seeking to harm other children. It is deeply upsetting to wonder what harm he has caused over the years that hasn't come to light yet. I find myself having nightmares about him. Honestly, this reinforces my atheism.
In the Dc metro area, with thousands of schools, name 5 cases where this happened at a preschool. I know you think it’s common place but no it isn’t something that happens often here with guys working in preschools. When there is something, to act like let’s alienate an entire gender from working with kids is mob mentality and mass hysteria at it’s finest.Anonymous wrote:
Let’s see the stats on FEMALE vs. MALE school staff sexually abusing PRESCHOOL children.
Then you’ll see why it’s so risky to choose MEN to have EASY access to ASSAULT your preschool child.