BLC is irrelevant for HighSchool, and YJMA is mid tier has HS players are at weak HS’s. YJDMV is 100% managed by a parent and no matter what the owner in LI says on a call, that is a joke. Clean tryout at Maryland United Bethesda. Director will be at the clinic this Saturday. I don’t trust M&D DC for high school, IYKYK, so my DD leaving will try out for Capital and MDU Bethesda only.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have no idea how involved Capital’s RD is. Her contacts are not to be believed and she is engaged every step of the way throughout the player’s recruiting journey. She schedules individual meetings with each player at the start of the recruiting year to learn the player’s list of target schools and set expectations re: what each player is responsible for. She provides timeline and delivery calendars for each player re: emails to coaches to promote themselves and express interest. She provides intel from college coaches to help players decipher true interest vs performative interest. She sends real-time texts to players from the sidelines as she works coaches tents during recruiting-season games relaying interest from her longstanding coaching relationships. She calls coaches to market Cap players to her personal contacts to help distinguish them from the mountain of other talented players seeking their attention. Comparatively, other clubs have a team parent hand out player bio sheets to coaches in the tents - which is one of the most awkward / cringiest exchanges you’ll ever see as parents are not allowed to speak to coaches until 9.1 before junior year. Anyone who says club RDs are overvalued has either never been thru the Capital process or never been the beneficiary of it. Mock it at your daughter’s peril if you turn down the opportunity to be a part of Cap’s proven system.
Capital Parent here - - - this is not what we experienced but I would still as I have in the past give credit to the BRAND for what they did for my daughter. Not sure the RD did much for her at all - - I would still choose Capital 10 out of 10 times because college coaches know that the best girls in the area are all looking for a spot there.
This is what I would expect. Mostly the family doing the work to get a player recruited. Using the brand of the club to market the player. Capital has the brand but that can change in an instant. This 29 tryout season will be very interesting.
The brand reputation can certainly change in an instant, and with the game growing other teams in the Philly area are starting to get their club's recruiting reputation in much higher standing to compete with the "old guard". It won't be long before the Florida area is the same, and NC is also trying.
Capital has rested on its reputation for too long, and the trickle down effect is happening now. I feel bad for the 29s who have to choose, because they are the first team to actually have a choice. In the past no other team could offer anything that could compete with capital's ability to get teams into the right tournaments, etc. Pride, BLC, Cardinal, Stars, YJMA all tried but did not have the ability to get enough girls together to create a strong enough team to compete. So it was an easy choice for all of the girls to try out for capital once HS came around. Now, M&D DC has something that pride was able to put together before ( a successful middle school team capable of competing with most of the MD teams), AND it has something that pride did not have, an established HS club with a nation wide presence and reputation.)
So for the 1st time girls in the area have a choice, which is great. Hopefully that also raises the level of what capital is offering and gets them to refresh some things in their program. This year is particularly tricky because 29 parents have seen the decline of the capital team talent in the past 2 years, but hasn't had the opportunity to see if that has an effect on recruiting. If the summer is as successful as the team hopes, keeping the team together and adding a few strong players seems to make more sense than risking what team is formed after 1 tryout for Capital. That is a bigger unknown that either capitals possible decline, or M&D DC playing 2nd fiddle to M&D Black.
Anonymous wrote:This is all rooted in the Pride 2023 class, which arguably had the best HS team in the area that year. That class with the exception of one player all chose to stay together, never even trying out for Capital, and trusting KM would live up to the recruiting promises made to players. Big mistake.
Pride’s recruiting efforts were green and poorly run with that class. The club lost their recruiting director, who went on to be the Head Coach at American. She was great and helpful, but the players were on their first high school year with her. But she had a plan for each player. The former GMU coach who took over simply did not care, had no plan for individual players, and seemed to have a general lack of interest in her job with Pride. KM did nothing to address the issue until it was too late for that class.
The 2023s who have gone on to play in college from that team did all the work on their own. Being the first true recruiting class for Pride they had no history to fall back on, no former recruits from the club to follow, and really no college coach connections to rely on from the club. As a result of all of this the class struggled with little guidance and know-how. The results were not good, and these fell squarely on KM and Pride.
This class was supposed to be KMs springboard for her HS program. She had a large group of the areas best players that played in the top brackets, had a top 5 strength of schedule, and played the best teams close. KM simply failed to capitalize on their talent. She could have built a great HS brand and experience on this class, but she threw it all away by not delivering on why most play club - to get recruited. The following Pride classes took notice and KM has not had a class like the 2023s willing to stay together since. Expectedly and wisely so, they have gone to back to Capital who does have a strong history of getting players recruited.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have no idea how involved Capital’s RD is. Her contacts are not to be believed and she is engaged every step of the way throughout the player’s recruiting journey. She schedules individual meetings with each player at the start of the recruiting year to learn the player’s list of target schools and set expectations re: what each player is responsible for. She provides timeline and delivery calendars for each player re: emails to coaches to promote themselves and express interest. She provides intel from college coaches to help players decipher true interest vs performative interest. She sends real-time texts to players from the sidelines as she works coaches tents during recruiting-season games relaying interest from her longstanding coaching relationships. She calls coaches to market Cap players to her personal contacts to help distinguish them from the mountain of other talented players seeking their attention. Comparatively, other clubs have a team parent hand out player bio sheets to coaches in the tents - which is one of the most awkward / cringiest exchanges you’ll ever see as parents are not allowed to speak to coaches until 9.1 before junior year. Anyone who says club RDs are overvalued has either never been thru the Capital process or never been the beneficiary of it. Mock it at your daughter’s peril if you turn down the opportunity to be a part of Cap’s proven system.
Capital Parent here - - - this is not what we experienced but I would still as I have in the past give credit to the BRAND for what they did for my daughter. Not sure the RD did much for her at all - - I would still choose Capital 10 out of 10 times because college coaches know that the best girls in the area are all looking for a spot there.
This is what I would expect. Mostly the family doing the work to get a player recruited. Using the brand of the club to market the player. Capital has the brand but that can change in an instant. This 29 tryout season will be very interesting.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have no idea how involved Capital’s RD is. Her contacts are not to be believed and she is engaged every step of the way throughout the player’s recruiting journey. She schedules individual meetings with each player at the start of the recruiting year to learn the player’s list of target schools and set expectations re: what each player is responsible for. She provides timeline and delivery calendars for each player re: emails to coaches to promote themselves and express interest. She provides intel from college coaches to help players decipher true interest vs performative interest. She sends real-time texts to players from the sidelines as she works coaches tents during recruiting-season games relaying interest from her longstanding coaching relationships. She calls coaches to market Cap players to her personal contacts to help distinguish them from the mountain of other talented players seeking their attention. Comparatively, other clubs have a team parent hand out player bio sheets to coaches in the tents - which is one of the most awkward / cringiest exchanges you’ll ever see as parents are not allowed to speak to coaches until 9.1 before junior year. Anyone who says club RDs are overvalued has either never been thru the Capital process or never been the beneficiary of it. Mock it at your daughter’s peril if you turn down the opportunity to be a part of Cap’s proven system.
Capital Parent here - - - this is not what we experienced but I would still as I have in the past give credit to the BRAND for what they did for my daughter. Not sure the RD did much for her at all - - I would still choose Capital 10 out of 10 times because college coaches know that the best girls in the area are all looking for a spot there.
Anonymous wrote:Why are these Cap groupies so adamant about what parents do with their children? The posters trolling the internet wee hours to provide input on something that has nothing to do with them. Why the continued back n forth? It is the definition of unhinged, you have no skin in the game.
If people want to make an uninformed decision with their children, let them. You provided your input, now go enjoy that D1 scholarship your kid earned.
Anonymous wrote:Top 1/3 of a top 20 club will likely hit on their top target schools. Middle 3rd will down shift slightly. Bottom 3rd will have major adjustments relative to expectations. You might see lots of congratulations on IG when a player commits but you have no idea as to what they thought was going to happen. What looks like success could actually be a major disaster. Point is it is relative. If you are in top 1/3 doesn’t matter much who you play for just as long as you are seen enough. Where club “brand” really matters is last 1/3. This can be the difference between landing as a practice player on bottom 50 d1 lax school or falling to d2 or 3. Percentages will adjust depending on overall ranking of team but this is the reality. Don’t get sucked into the noise and politics around club unless you are in bottom 1/3 because for your kid it’s a make or break situation. The middle 1/3 need to be strategic because being a featured player vs role player can make a difference. Btw nothing wrong at all with d2 or 3 or bottom 50 or any of it. Way more important to focus on mental health and long term life goals but that’s hard to do when you are in the middle of the circus.
You're making my point, numnutz. The PP said you have to be on am "established" team or you'll get whitewashed in recruiting. Meanwhile, of 3 "established" teams, one in a steep decline, there's only a triclkle of players out of ~115 rostered players on the even very best teams. It's just more nonsense after nonsense with you folks.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Using your metrics for established, of course. There are new teams in the top 20 every year. There are other longer standing ones, too. Hero's and M&D have been targeted by you Cap crazies lately, saying there are none or nearly none of them on the by far top 3 teams in the country. And you just made that up, so it's not a "stat". GTFOHWTN.Anonymous wrote:No team that’s ever chosen to stick together instead of joining a more established club has ever had proven success with recruiting results. Ever. Those facts do not lie.
Don't run your mouth unless you're ready to back it up. Please challenge the accuracy of these stats:
Top three teams:
UNC:
Godine (M&D 2022)
Casey (Cap 2020)
Levy (M&D 2024 / Daughter of HC)
No Hero's players
NW:
Archer (Cap 2023)
No Hero's OR M&D players
BC:
O’Connor (Cap 2022)
Oliver (M&D 2022)
Bennett (M&D 2022)
No Hero's players
Anonymous wrote:Using your metrics for established, of course. There are new teams in the top 20 every year. There are other longer standing ones, too. Hero's and M&D have been targeted by you Cap crazies lately, saying there are none or nearly none of them on the by far top 3 teams in the country. And you just made that up, so it's not a "stat". GTFOHWTN.Anonymous wrote:No team that’s ever chosen to stick together instead of joining a more established club has ever had proven success with recruiting results. Ever. Those facts do not lie.
Anonymous wrote:You have no idea how involved Capital’s RD is. Her contacts are not to be believed and she is engaged every step of the way throughout the player’s recruiting journey. She schedules individual meetings with each player at the start of the recruiting year to learn the player’s list of target schools and set expectations re: what each player is responsible for. She provides timeline and delivery calendars for each player re: emails to coaches to promote themselves and express interest. She provides intel from college coaches to help players decipher true interest vs performative interest. She sends real-time texts to players from the sidelines as she works coaches tents during recruiting-season games relaying interest from her longstanding coaching relationships. She calls coaches to market Cap players to her personal contacts to help distinguish them from the mountain of other talented players seeking their attention. Comparatively, other clubs have a team parent hand out player bio sheets to coaches in the tents - which is one of the most awkward / cringiest exchanges you’ll ever see as parents are not allowed to speak to coaches until 9.1 before junior year. Anyone who says club RDs are overvalued has either never been thru the Capital process or never been the beneficiary of it. Mock it at your daughter’s peril if you turn down the opportunity to be a part of Cap’s proven system.
Using your metrics for established, of course. There are new teams in the top 20 every year. There are other longer standing ones, too. Hero's and M&D have been targeted by you Cap crazies lately, saying there are none or nearly none of them on the by far top 3 teams in the country. And you just made that up, so its not a "stat". GTFOHWTN.Anonymous wrote:No team that’s ever chosen to stick together instead of joining a more established club has ever had proven success with recruiting results. Ever. Those facts do not lie.