Anonymous
12/19/2023 09:35
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
As an Alexandria taxpayer I like this. City of Alexandria needs to diversify its tax revenue and this will help. Original plans for Potomac Yard envisioned more office buildings in that section, but there’s little demand for new office space and Alexandria is leading the country in office to residential conversions. This whole entertainment district will generate a lot of tax revenue for Alexandria—much more than the empty lots that are currently there.
lol all the tax revenues generated by the project will be used to pay off the hundreds of millions in bond debt that Alexandria will owe to creditors as a result of pitching in to build the facility. Your mayor just sold Alexandria to the bond market for the next 20+ years all while knowing he won’t have to answer to the voters.
Don’t see anything wrong with the revenue from the project being used to pay off bond debt that helped build it.
Right, but Alexandria would be on the hook if the rosy projections of concession and ticket sales do not cover the obligation. Given the difficulty of the location (ie the transportation issues) this is a real risk.
The indoor/outdoor performing arts venue will likely have events almost every day of the year. This will undoubtedly fill Alexandria’s coffers, and pull the renaming musicals and other shows out of downtown DC (namely the National and Warner theaters). Already most prefer to travel to the brand new Capital One Hall in Tysons for shows. Sadly there will just be fewer reasons for a night out on the town in DC with its beautiful architecture and culture. We’ll just drive all the bland new suburban venues. Strathmore, Capital One Hall, the future Potomac Yards performing arts space. Even the Kennedy Center might survive since it’s off of a freeway ramp with a speedy connection to Virginia.
The outdoor music venue under the landing path of National Airport? Ya, that will be real popular.
This plan is a terrible idea for lots of reasons, but the "airplane noise" people are seriously the weirdest. I live .75 miles away, and it's no big deal. And the music would drown any benign "whoosh" airplane noise 50-fold.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 09:24
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Sadly, DC and the Park Service did not maintain the popular Carter Baron Amphitheater in Rock Creek Park. That’s another reason why people go to the suburbs for cultural events.
NPS is the amphitheater's biggest handicap. Really wish NPS would lease the land and sell the facility to a private developer.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 09:20
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
As an Alexandria taxpayer I like this. City of Alexandria needs to diversify its tax revenue and this will help. Original plans for Potomac Yard envisioned more office buildings in that section, but there’s little demand for new office space and Alexandria is leading the country in office to residential conversions. This whole entertainment district will generate a lot of tax revenue for Alexandria—much more than the empty lots that are currently there.
lol all the tax revenues generated by the project will be used to pay off the hundreds of millions in bond debt that Alexandria will owe to creditors as a result of pitching in to build the facility. Your mayor just sold Alexandria to the bond market for the next 20+ years all while knowing he won’t have to answer to the voters.
Don’t see anything wrong with the revenue from the project being used to pay off bond debt that helped build it.
Right, but Alexandria would be on the hook if the rosy projections of concession and ticket sales do not cover the obligation. Given the difficulty of the location (ie the transportation issues) this is a real risk.
The indoor/outdoor performing arts venue will likely have events almost every day of the year. This will undoubtedly fill Alexandria’s coffers, and pull the renaming musicals and other shows out of downtown DC (namely the National and Warner theaters). Already most prefer to travel to the brand new Capital One Hall in Tysons for shows. Sadly there will just be fewer reasons for a night out on the town in DC with its beautiful architecture and culture. We’ll just drive all the bland new suburban venues. Strathmore, Capital One Hall, the future Potomac Yards performing arts space. Even the Kennedy Center might survive since it’s off of a freeway ramp with a speedy connection to Virginia.
The outdoor music venue under the landing path of National Airport? Ya, that will be real popular.
There are concerts at Citi Field (and previously at Shea Stadium) by LGA all the time.
+1 There are outdoor concert venues all over the world near airports or landing/takeoff routes. I don't see why this one is any different.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 09:20
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Sadly, DC and the Park Service did not maintain the popular Carter Baron Amphitheater in Rock Creek Park. That’s another reason why people go to the suburbs for cultural events.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:54
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
As an Alexandria taxpayer I like this. City of Alexandria needs to diversify its tax revenue and this will help. Original plans for Potomac Yard envisioned more office buildings in that section, but there’s little demand for new office space and Alexandria is leading the country in office to residential conversions. This whole entertainment district will generate a lot of tax revenue for Alexandria—much more than the empty lots that are currently there.
lol all the tax revenues generated by the project will be used to pay off the hundreds of millions in bond debt that Alexandria will owe to creditors as a result of pitching in to build the facility. Your mayor just sold Alexandria to the bond market for the next 20+ years all while knowing he won’t have to answer to the voters.
Don’t see anything wrong with the revenue from the project being used to pay off bond debt that helped build it.
Right, but Alexandria would be on the hook if the rosy projections of concession and ticket sales do not cover the obligation. Given the difficulty of the location (ie the transportation issues) this is a real risk.
The indoor/outdoor performing arts venue will likely have events almost every day of the year. This will undoubtedly fill Alexandria’s coffers, and pull the renaming musicals and other shows out of downtown DC (namely the National and Warner theaters). Already most prefer to travel to the brand new Capital One Hall in Tysons for shows. Sadly there will just be fewer reasons for a night out on the town in DC with its beautiful architecture and culture. We’ll just drive all the bland new suburban venues. Strathmore, Capital One Hall, the future Potomac Yards performing arts space. Even the Kennedy Center might survive since it’s off of a freeway ramp with a speedy connection to Virginia.
The outdoor music venue under the landing path of National Airport? Ya, that will be real popular.
There are concerts at Citi Field (and previously at Shea Stadium) by LGA all the time.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:53
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
As an Alexandria taxpayer I like this. City of Alexandria needs to diversify its tax revenue and this will help. Original plans for Potomac Yard envisioned more office buildings in that section, but there’s little demand for new office space and Alexandria is leading the country in office to residential conversions. This whole entertainment district will generate a lot of tax revenue for Alexandria—much more than the empty lots that are currently there.
lol all the tax revenues generated by the project will be used to pay off the hundreds of millions in bond debt that Alexandria will owe to creditors as a result of pitching in to build the facility. Your mayor just sold Alexandria to the bond market for the next 20+ years all while knowing he won’t have to answer to the voters.
Don’t see anything wrong with the revenue from the project being used to pay off bond debt that helped build it.
Right, but Alexandria would be on the hook if the rosy projections of concession and ticket sales do not cover the obligation. Given the difficulty of the location (ie the transportation issues) this is a real risk.
The indoor/outdoor performing arts venue will likely have events almost every day of the year. This will undoubtedly fill Alexandria’s coffers, and pull the renaming musicals and other shows out of downtown DC (namely the National and Warner theaters). Already most prefer to travel to the brand new Capital One Hall in Tysons for shows. Sadly there will just be fewer reasons for a night out on the town in DC with its beautiful architecture and culture. We’ll just drive all the bland new suburban venues. Strathmore, Capital One Hall, the future Potomac Yards performing arts space. Even the Kennedy Center might survive since it’s off of a freeway ramp with a speedy connection to Virginia.
You think that people are going to flock to a suburban venue without parking?
There is the Metroway BRT which runs by lots of empty office and hotel parking garages. The city and Metro can pay for increased frequency. It’ll be like taking the parking shuttle at Disneyland.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:30
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
As an Alexandria taxpayer I like this. City of Alexandria needs to diversify its tax revenue and this will help. Original plans for Potomac Yard envisioned more office buildings in that section, but there’s little demand for new office space and Alexandria is leading the country in office to residential conversions. This whole entertainment district will generate a lot of tax revenue for Alexandria—much more than the empty lots that are currently there.
lol all the tax revenues generated by the project will be used to pay off the hundreds of millions in bond debt that Alexandria will owe to creditors as a result of pitching in to build the facility. Your mayor just sold Alexandria to the bond market for the next 20+ years all while knowing he won’t have to answer to the voters.
Don’t see anything wrong with the revenue from the project being used to pay off bond debt that helped build it.
Right, but Alexandria would be on the hook if the rosy projections of concession and ticket sales do not cover the obligation. Given the difficulty of the location (ie the transportation issues) this is a real risk.
The indoor/outdoor performing arts venue will likely have events almost every day of the year. This will undoubtedly fill Alexandria’s coffers, and pull the renaming musicals and other shows out of downtown DC (namely the National and Warner theaters). Already most prefer to travel to the brand new Capital One Hall in Tysons for shows. Sadly there will just be fewer reasons for a night out on the town in DC with its beautiful architecture and culture. We’ll just drive all the bland new suburban venues. Strathmore, Capital One Hall, the future Potomac Yards performing arts space. Even the Kennedy Center might survive since it’s off of a freeway ramp with a speedy connection to Virginia.
You think that people are going to flock to a suburban venue without parking?
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:30
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
As an Alexandria taxpayer I like this. City of Alexandria needs to diversify its tax revenue and this will help. Original plans for Potomac Yard envisioned more office buildings in that section, but there’s little demand for new office space and Alexandria is leading the country in office to residential conversions. This whole entertainment district will generate a lot of tax revenue for Alexandria—much more than the empty lots that are currently there.
lol all the tax revenues generated by the project will be used to pay off the hundreds of millions in bond debt that Alexandria will owe to creditors as a result of pitching in to build the facility. Your mayor just sold Alexandria to the bond market for the next 20+ years all while knowing he won’t have to answer to the voters.
Don’t see anything wrong with the revenue from the project being used to pay off bond debt that helped build it.
Right, but Alexandria would be on the hook if the rosy projections of concession and ticket sales do not cover the obligation. Given the difficulty of the location (ie the transportation issues) this is a real risk.
The indoor/outdoor performing arts venue will likely have events almost every day of the year. This will undoubtedly fill Alexandria’s coffers, and pull the renaming musicals and other shows out of downtown DC (namely the National and Warner theaters). Already most prefer to travel to the brand new Capital One Hall in Tysons for shows. Sadly there will just be fewer reasons for a night out on the town in DC with its beautiful architecture and culture. We’ll just drive all the bland new suburban venues. Strathmore, Capital One Hall, the future Potomac Yards performing arts space. Even the Kennedy Center might survive since it’s off of a freeway ramp with a speedy connection to Virginia.
More people prioritize safety over "culture."
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:27
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
As an Alexandria taxpayer I like this. City of Alexandria needs to diversify its tax revenue and this will help. Original plans for Potomac Yard envisioned more office buildings in that section, but there’s little demand for new office space and Alexandria is leading the country in office to residential conversions. This whole entertainment district will generate a lot of tax revenue for Alexandria—much more than the empty lots that are currently there.
lol all the tax revenues generated by the project will be used to pay off the hundreds of millions in bond debt that Alexandria will owe to creditors as a result of pitching in to build the facility. Your mayor just sold Alexandria to the bond market for the next 20+ years all while knowing he won’t have to answer to the voters.
Don’t see anything wrong with the revenue from the project being used to pay off bond debt that helped build it.
Right, but Alexandria would be on the hook if the rosy projections of concession and ticket sales do not cover the obligation. Given the difficulty of the location (ie the transportation issues) this is a real risk.
The indoor/outdoor performing arts venue will likely have events almost every day of the year. This will undoubtedly fill Alexandria’s coffers, and pull the renaming musicals and other shows out of downtown DC (namely the National and Warner theaters). Already most prefer to travel to the brand new Capital One Hall in Tysons for shows. Sadly there will just be fewer reasons for a night out on the town in DC with its beautiful architecture and culture. We’ll just drive all the bland new suburban venues. Strathmore, Capital One Hall, the future Potomac Yards performing arts space. Even the Kennedy Center might survive since it’s off of a freeway ramp with a speedy connection to Virginia.
The outdoor music venue under the landing path of National Airport? Ya, that will be real popular.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:21
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
As an Alexandria taxpayer I like this. City of Alexandria needs to diversify its tax revenue and this will help. Original plans for Potomac Yard envisioned more office buildings in that section, but there’s little demand for new office space and Alexandria is leading the country in office to residential conversions. This whole entertainment district will generate a lot of tax revenue for Alexandria—much more than the empty lots that are currently there.
lol all the tax revenues generated by the project will be used to pay off the hundreds of millions in bond debt that Alexandria will owe to creditors as a result of pitching in to build the facility. Your mayor just sold Alexandria to the bond market for the next 20+ years all while knowing he won’t have to answer to the voters.
Don’t see anything wrong with the revenue from the project being used to pay off bond debt that helped build it.
Right, but Alexandria would be on the hook if the rosy projections of concession and ticket sales do not cover the obligation. Given the difficulty of the location (ie the transportation issues) this is a real risk.
The indoor/outdoor performing arts venue will likely have events almost every day of the year. This will undoubtedly fill Alexandria’s coffers, and pull the renaming musicals and other shows out of downtown DC (namely the National and Warner theaters). Already most prefer to travel to the brand new Capital One Hall in Tysons for shows. Sadly there will just be fewer reasons for a night out on the town in DC with its beautiful architecture and culture. We’ll just drive all the bland new suburban venues. Strathmore, Capital One Hall, the future Potomac Yards performing arts space. Even the Kennedy Center might survive since it’s off of a freeway ramp with a speedy connection to Virginia.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:21
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shooting by the Christmas Market across the street from Cap One Arena during the Madonna concert there last night. People that are never in the neighborhood claim the crime is overblown, but many of us live this every day. Ted is very visible walking around in the neighborhood (I see him all the time without trying), and can't have missed the decline.
I have see several Twitter posts showing people not being shot at the Christmas market. You must be mistaken.
It was an officer involved shooting.
Of a man with a gun. just more vibrancy
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:20
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shooting by the Christmas Market across the street from Cap One Arena during the Madonna concert there last night. People that are never in the neighborhood claim the crime is overblown, but many of us live this every day. Ted is very visible walking around in the neighborhood (I see him all the time without trying), and can't have missed the decline.
I have see several Twitter posts showing people not being shot at the Christmas market. You must be mistaken.
It was an officer involved shooting.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 08:18
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shooting by the Christmas Market across the street from Cap One Arena during the Madonna concert there last night. People that are never in the neighborhood claim the crime is overblown, but many of us live this every day. Ted is very visible walking around in the neighborhood (I see him all the time without trying), and can't have missed the decline.
I have see several Twitter posts showing people not being shot at the Christmas market. You must be mistaken.
There was an officer-involved shooting on F St -- a couple of blocks away. PP had her facts wrong about the Christmas Market but she's correct about the neighborhood's decline.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 05:13
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Anonymous wrote:Shooting by the Christmas Market across the street from Cap One Arena during the Madonna concert there last night. People that are never in the neighborhood claim the crime is overblown, but many of us live this every day. Ted is very visible walking around in the neighborhood (I see him all the time without trying), and can't have missed the decline.
I have see several Twitter posts showing people not being shot at the Christmas market. You must be mistaken.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 04:38
Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard
Shooting by the Christmas Market across the street from Cap One Arena during the Madonna concert there last night. People that are never in the neighborhood claim the crime is overblown, but many of us live this every day. Ted is very visible walking around in the neighborhood (I see him all the time without trying), and can't have missed the decline.