Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.
Right on, comrade! Put the criminals on the streets, not behind bars! Two, four, six, eight, who do we appreciate? Felons! Felons! Felons!
They are just like you & me, except we haven’t set anybody on fire, pushed anybody onto railroad tracks, raped any old ladies, molested any kids, invaded anybody’s home, or carjacked an Uber. But other than stuff like that, we are the same.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.
Right on, comrade! Put the criminals on the streets, not behind bars! Two, four, six, eight, who do we appreciate? Felons! Felons! Felons!
They are just like you & me, except we haven’t set anybody on fire, pushed anybody onto railroad tracks, raped any old ladies, molested any kids, invaded anybody’s home, or carjacked an Uber. But other than stuff like that, we are the same.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.
Right on, comrade! Put the criminals on the streets, not behind bars! Two, four, six, eight, who do we appreciate? Felons! Felons! Felons!
They are just like you & me, except we haven’t set anybody on fire, pushed anybody onto railroad tracks, raped any old ladies, molested any kids, invaded anybody’s home, or carjacked an Uber. But other than stuff like that, we are the same.
Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?
What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.
When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.
Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.
DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.
How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?
Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?
Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.
Good cops should welcome getting rid of racist, homophobic, and corrupt cops who abuse their power. If you don’t, you aren’t a good cop
There are 34,000 NYPD officers. How many does each cop interact with in a month, 100, 200? How many of those 200 do they know anything about beyond their names? Those cops don’t know who the racists, homophobes and corrupt cops are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?
What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.
When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.
Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.
DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.
How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?
Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?
Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.
Good cops should welcome getting rid of racist, homophobic, and corrupt cops who abuse their power. If you don’t, you aren’t a good cop
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?
What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.
When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.
Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.
DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.
How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?
Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?
Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.
Good cops should welcome getting rid of racist, homophobic, and corrupt cops who abuse their power. If you don’t, you aren’t a good cop
Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?
What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.
When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.
Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.
DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.
How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?
Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?
Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?
What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.
When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.
Supposedly 5,000 are quitting because Mamdani got elected. I'd say that anyone quitting their job on the force just because they thought someone said something mean is a snowflake who doesn't have the temperament to be a police officer in the first place. Hopefully that includes some of the corrupt ones, because I do think there's some overlap.
As for NYPD demographics, it largely mirrors NYC demographics within about 5-10% in each demographic area, with one bigger exception being more latinos and less whites on the force now than 20 years ago.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?
What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.
When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.
Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.
It’s not about standards, it’s about support.
Anonymous wrote:Again, how is this Mamdani's fault? Because he said some truthful things that hurt a few dirty and/or incompetent cops' feelings 10 or 20 years later?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?
What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.
When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.
Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.
DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.
How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?
Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?
Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.
Chump said the entire federal workforce was sh!t and that many of them weren't needed. He told them to leave. He even said they were so worthless he would pay them to leave. Then he started firing them. Interesting how so many good hardworking feds are complaining and suing to stay hired.
Mamdani is nowhere near this level. Much of what he's saying resonates with the public because they live in poor neighborhoods and have eyes and ears on the cops. Maybe he could have been a little more measured but he's not a politician and white MAGA polarize everything with their ADHD sound bites. New Yorkers know what he's talking about and they're thick skinned to not get triggered. Good cops won't leave because of standards but bad cops will. I feel bad (not really, though) for small PD that don't have enough PO to hide these bad apples.
What makes you believe cops would leave over standards? The same commissioner will be in charge. Standards won’t change. Support from the mayor will change. It’s likely funding will change. Departures will certainly increase, which creates staffing strain. Pay won’t go up but stress will.
Anonymous wrote:Suffolk County PD has a lower starting salary but it goes to $190k after 8 years, which is much better than the NYPD. SCPD also offers retirement at 20 years vs. the NYPD at 22 years.