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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

Hailey Bieber does look older than her age, but doesn’t mean that the woman in the picture looks young(er).

The poster selected one photo. If you look at all her photos, she looks her age.

Ok? More evidence that photographs are not good measures of age.

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. If your photos show you with wrinkly hands and a wrinkly neck, nobody is going to buy that you're 30.

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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

Hailey Bieber does look older than her age, but doesn’t mean that the woman in the picture looks young(er).

The poster selected one photo. If you look at all her photos, she looks her age.

Ok? More evidence that photographs are not good measures of age.

Anonymous wrote:What's the point of examining outliers under ideal photo conditions? Of course there are people who look especially youthful or old for their age no matter how hard they try or in spite of it. Most people look their age. I don't even know what 'passing for 35' even means, no one cares at that point.

Some people who post here are really invested in looking younger than their chronological age.

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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

Hailey Bieber does look older than her age, but doesn’t mean that the woman in the picture looks young(er).

The poster selected one photo. If you look at all her photos, she looks her age.

What's the point of examining outliers under ideal photo conditions? Of course there are people who look especially youthful or old for their age no matter how hard they try or in spite of it. Most people look their age. I don't even know what 'passing for 35' even means, no one cares at that point.

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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

Hailey Bieber does look older than her age, but doesn’t mean that the woman in the picture looks young(er).

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged men aren't always in the best shape, so I get it.

I've been seeing this kind of comment a lot. I don't get it. Men and women have about the same waist size.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/01/08/weight

Maybe it's just hard for a fit person to find similarly fit partner. My waist is 28 inch, BMI 21. I can't force myself sleep with men who have bellies or overweight. At the same time, I find women who are slightly chubby attractive. Maybe because they have bigger butts and belly is not that noticeable? I don't know

Thought it was commonly understood that people who find women sexually attractive prefer them with softness -ie, a little extra weight.

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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

You are really invested in thinking this woman’s age doesn’t show. You are likely focusing on obvious things like waist size, hair color, wrinkles. But you are wrong. As I said, there are always tells on aging.

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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

The neck always give it away.

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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

Why are we talking about photos? Photos can be manipulated. In the real world, people are able to see each other in 3D and all the fine lines and grays can't be as easily concealed.

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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

The neck always give it away.

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Anonymous wrote:Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.

Where are all of these well-maintained older women? The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there. Cuz I'm not seeing it.

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age.

Lisa Ling is 51. No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman. Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35. Ali Wong looks about her age.

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

I guess about 70. She has bad bunions and disformed toes.

She has prominent nasialabial folds and her hairline has receded. It feels crummy to point these things out but there are always “tells” on aging.

It's BS. I would think that Hailey Bieber is early 40s, based on this photo. Same "folds" that she tries to cover with foundation. It's just you knew the pictured woman is someone's mother, and you logically infered the age. If she had all the make up, hair done, and you didn't know the true age, she can easily be mistaken with "US average" mid 50s woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/hailey-bieber-steps-nothing-blazer-005600080.html

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged men aren't always in the best shape, so I get it.

I've been seeing this kind of comment a lot. I don't get it. Men and women have about the same waist size.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/01/08/weight

Maybe it's just hard for a fit person to find similarly fit partner. My waist is 28 inch, BMI 21. I can't force myself sleep with men who have bellies or overweight. At the same time, I find women who are slightly chubby attractive. Maybe because they have bigger butts and belly is not that noticeable? I don't know

Anonymous wrote:Middle aged men aren't always in the best shape, so I get it.

I've been seeing this kind of comment a lot. I don't get it. Men and women have about the same waist size.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/01/08/weight

I definitely find women more attractive as I get older, but it doesn't really make me want to date them. Sounds like you might be open to it now, and that's ok. A few of my friends are bi or pan. Maybe give it a try?

Middle aged men aren't always in the best shape, so I get it. My current BF does not have a good body and the last one didn't either. Both are pretty unsightly when naked. It's a bummer because I work hard to stay in shape. But current BF is at least very good in bed and a lot of fun outside of it, so I've had to accept that people aren't perfect and you don't get everything you want.