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Anonymous wrote:Some people simply don’t want to spend the rest if their lives explaining to everybody they meet that their alma mater is not in DC or the Pacific Northwest.

Hoe many times in your adult life are you discussing where you went to undergrad?

Anonymous wrote:Some people simply don’t want to spend the rest if their lives explaining to everybody they meet that their alma mater is not in DC or the Pacific Northwest.

Anonymous wrote:Some people simply don’t want to spend the rest if their lives explaining to everybody they meet that their alma mater is not in DC or the Pacific Northwest.

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Anonymous wrote:I taught at a couple Ivies, Wash U., and another peer school. If their kids got into Stanford, MIT, or Caltech then DCUM snobs hate the Ivies. If their kid barely got into one Ivy, then they hate Northwestern. If their kid got into Northwestern or Chicago, then they hate Wash. U. They don't want to share status.

USNews rates some Ivies as low as #15. The next private National Universities are Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Wash U., Emory, Georgetown, USC, NYU. So Wash. U. is solidly in the second 15 schools. Georgetown has great placement in finance and probably State Department, but Wash. U. has better STEM and a suburban campus.

Totally agree, but it begs the question why the status accrues in the first place. As you said, some Ivies consistently rank below non-Ivy schools. What say the Ivy hounds? There’s higher and lower Ivy.

What’s really being prioritized by “Ivy” is smarts and ADHD-level ambition. Not everyone who attends an Ivy is like this, but those who standout, do.

It’s not that ambition itself is bad, but pathological ambition is bad because it routinely runs over people and institutions and leaves society with the fallout/consequences.

Anonymous wrote:I taught at a couple Ivies, Wash U., and another peer school. If their kids got into Stanford, MIT, or Caltech then DCUM snobs hate the Ivies. If their kid barely got into one Ivy, then they hate Northwestern. If their kid got into Northwestern or Chicago, then they hate Wash. U. They don't want to share status.

USNews rates some Ivies as low as #15. The next private National Universities are Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Wash U., Emory, Georgetown, USC, NYU. So Wash. U. is solidly in the second 15 schools. Georgetown has great placement in finance and probably State Department, but Wash. U. has better STEM and a suburban campus.

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Anonymous wrote:The haters always have a NE bias. So, start by considering the source.

Have you ever asked a NYC person what they think about the Midwest? They speak about it pejoratively as “flyover” country. In other words, there’s no reason to go there. Period. That means Michigan, Northwestern, Chicago, WSTL, Vanderbilt, and others will never get the love that NE schools get. It’s distaste by definition.

It’s also distaste by culture. The NE prides itself in Type-A competitiveness, big city culture, name-brand elites, and prestigious Wall Street and consulting firms. The Midwest offers something else, but whatever it is, it’s not good-enough for NE hard chargers. The Midwest and its colleges might have smart kids, but they’re not as cutthroat as NE students, and for that, the NE marks them as “less than.”

No, Michigan, Chicago, and Northwestern are very well respected in the NE.

Nice try, but they’re still seen as Ivy rejects.

No. Healthy, happy, knowledgeable people don’t think that way.

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Anonymous wrote:The haters always have a NE bias. So, start by considering the source.

Have you ever asked a NYC person what they think about the Midwest? They speak about it pejoratively as “flyover” country. In other words, there’s no reason to go there. Period. That means Michigan, Northwestern, Chicago, WSTL, Vanderbilt, and others will never get the love that NE schools get. It’s distaste by definition.

It’s also distaste by culture. The NE prides itself in Type-A competitiveness, big city culture, name-brand elites, and prestigious Wall Street and consulting firms. The Midwest offers something else, but whatever it is, it’s not good-enough for NE hard chargers. The Midwest and its colleges might have smart kids, but they’re not as cutthroat as NE students, and for that, the NE marks them as “less than.”

No, Michigan, Chicago, and Northwestern are very well respected in the NE.

Nice try, but they’re still seen as Ivy rejects.

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Anonymous wrote:The haters always have a NE bias. So, start by considering the source.

Have you ever asked a NYC person what they think about the Midwest? They speak about it pejoratively as “flyover” country. In other words, there’s no reason to go there. Period. That means Michigan, Northwestern, Chicago, WSTL, Vanderbilt, and others will never get the love that NE schools get. It’s distaste by definition.

It’s also distaste by culture. The NE prides itself in Type-A competitiveness, big city culture, name-brand elites, and prestigious Wall Street and consulting firms. The Midwest offers something else, but whatever it is, it’s not good-enough for NE hard chargers. The Midwest and its colleges might have smart kids, but they’re not as cutthroat as NE students, and for that, the NE marks them as “less than.”

No, Michigan, Chicago, and Northwestern are very well respected in the NE.

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Anonymous wrote:^ PP.

The NE believes that “the best” are smart AND hyper-ambitious. They are hard chargers. Did you see the Social Network? The movie depicts Zuckerberg’s rise from Harvard to Facebook. You can’t watch that movie without thinking, “Zuck is a d*ck.” Yet, the NE loves that kind of personality. Once you understand that, you’ll understand why posters on here say that the best are at the Ivies and everyone else couldn’t get in.

I disagree. My kid was Ivy-qualified, but never applied. He’s not cutthroat. Didn’t want to put up with d*cks, no matter their smarts. I applaud him for showing the courage to be true to himself and having an ethics of kindness and collaboration.

LOL. Your kid eliminated several top schools because of a movie about Facebook. Maybe he’s not quite “Ivy-qualified”.

Anonymous wrote:WashU is for kids who can’t get into Ivies. Washed Up.

Anonymous wrote:^ PP.

The NE believes that “the best” are smart AND hyper-ambitious. They are hard chargers. Did you see the Social Network? The movie depicts Zuckerberg’s rise from Harvard to Facebook. You can’t watch that movie without thinking, “Zuck is a d*ck.” Yet, the NE loves that kind of personality. Once you understand that, you’ll understand why posters on here say that the best are at the Ivies and everyone else couldn’t get in.

I disagree. My kid was Ivy-qualified, but never applied. He’s not cutthroat. Didn’t want to put up with d*cks, no matter their smarts. I applaud him for showing the courage to be true to himself and having an ethics of kindness and collaboration.