Anonymous
01/29/2020 15:23
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. McKinley PTA (which started out presenting itself as a reasonable and calm player) has gone completely off the rails. Appeals to PTAs and personal rebukes.
where is this?
They have an email campaign of misinformation going out to other PTAs.
ahh. fortunately I think most PTA leadership is smarter than this and will see right through it.
Dominion Hills and Madison Manor are just going to have to deal with riding a bus to Tuckahoe or Ashlawn. They really aren't that special.
+1. I live a couple blocks from ATS but we didn't get a lottery slot so guess what, my kids ride the bus a mile + west to Ashlawn.
So now you know how the families whose houses face McKinley feel.
Just ask the kids near Key who didn't get in. I'm sure they can tell you all about it.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 15:03
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. McKinley PTA (which started out presenting itself as a reasonable and calm player) has gone completely off the rails. Appeals to PTAs and personal rebukes.
where is this?
They have an email campaign of misinformation going out to other PTAs.
ahh. fortunately I think most PTA leadership is smarter than this and will see right through it.
Dominion Hills and Madison Manor are just going to have to deal with riding a bus to Tuckahoe or Ashlawn. They really aren't that special.
+1. I live a couple blocks from ATS but we didn't get a lottery slot so guess what, my kids ride the bus a mile + west to Ashlawn.
So now you know how the families whose houses face McKinley feel.
....and how they will also survive and manage, and their kids will still get a good education
Anonymous
01/29/2020 14:54
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Lots of kids in VA Sq and Ballston are currently bussed to Ashlawn. That’s the Ashlawn “tail”.
That's my point. Wouldn't it be nice if those kids could attend ASFS a few blocks away instead? Because that's what they'll get to do if Key becomes its own neighborhood school. Otherwise, the tail just gets bigger, as the community maps show.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 14:45
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. McKinley PTA (which started out presenting itself as a reasonable and calm player) has gone completely off the rails. Appeals to PTAs and personal rebukes.
where is this?
They have an email campaign of misinformation going out to other PTAs.
ahh. fortunately I think most PTA leadership is smarter than this and will see right through it.
Dominion Hills and Madison Manor are just going to have to deal with riding a bus to Tuckahoe or Ashlawn. They really aren't that special.
+1. I live a couple blocks from ATS but we didn't get a lottery slot so guess what, my kids ride the bus a mile + west to Ashlawn.
So now you know how the families whose houses face McKinley feel.
I am sure it stinks but you just are not going to get a lot of sympathy from many on this board because many of us have had to deal with this for years for ES, MS and/or HS.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 14:26
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. McKinley PTA (which started out presenting itself as a reasonable and calm player) has gone completely off the rails. Appeals to PTAs and personal rebukes.
where is this?
They have an email campaign of misinformation going out to other PTAs.
ahh. fortunately I think most PTA leadership is smarter than this and will see right through it.
Dominion Hills and Madison Manor are just going to have to deal with riding a bus to Tuckahoe or Ashlawn. They really aren't that special.
+1. I live a couple blocks from ATS but we didn't get a lottery slot so guess what, my kids ride the bus a mile + west to Ashlawn.
So now you know how the families whose houses face McKinley feel.
Happy their kids will leave a little earlier to catch the bus?
Anonymous
01/29/2020 14:26
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. McKinley PTA (which started out presenting itself as a reasonable and calm player) has gone completely off the rails. Appeals to PTAs and personal rebukes.
where is this?
They have an email campaign of misinformation going out to other PTAs.
ahh. fortunately I think most PTA leadership is smarter than this and will see right through it.
Dominion Hills and Madison Manor are just going to have to deal with riding a bus to Tuckahoe or Ashlawn. They really aren't that special.
+1. I live a couple blocks from ATS but we didn't get a lottery slot so guess what, my kids ride the bus a mile + west to Ashlawn.
So now you know how the families whose houses face McKinley feel.
Boo hoo.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 14:26
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Gut leads me to predict a no move majority vote. To be sure, that would be hugely embarrassing. But a speech about the need to pause, look at the data, admit “mistakes”, get things right, proceed carefully, promote diversity, and the like will do the trick!
It really won’t. Have you seen those gerrymandered pro-McKinley maps? Without the moves, redrawing boundaries will be a total nightmare.
Redrawing boundaries will be a nightmare no matter what. Most schools will be affected. They've said as much. Even the "most of McK goes to Reed" seems like they're playing down the fact that while "most" may go, that could mean 50% plus one. The Tuckahoe units there will move to McK, which starts the dominos.
Of course most schools will be affected either way. The difference is that if the moves happen, the effects will be due to Reed, ASFS, and Key getting new and largely walkable attendance zones, and then evening out remaining capacity and tightening up boundaries for other schools. But without the moves, a lot of kids in Virginia Square and Ballston will have to be bused to Ashlawn and McKinley, many kids in Rosslyn will get bused to Long Branch, and the School Board will have its hands full rebalancing capacity with little to no ability to address other factors like demographics.
Lots of kids in VA Sq and Ballston are currently bussed to Ashlawn. That’s the Ashlawn “tail”.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 14:23
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. McKinley PTA (which started out presenting itself as a reasonable and calm player) has gone completely off the rails. Appeals to PTAs and personal rebukes.
where is this?
They have an email campaign of misinformation going out to other PTAs.
ahh. fortunately I think most PTA leadership is smarter than this and will see right through it.
Dominion Hills and Madison Manor are just going to have to deal with riding a bus to Tuckahoe or Ashlawn. They really aren't that special.
+1. I live a couple blocks from ATS but we didn't get a lottery slot so guess what, my kids ride the bus a mile + west to Ashlawn.
So now you know how the families whose houses face McKinley feel.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 11:15
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Gut leads me to predict a no move majority vote. To be sure, that would be hugely embarrassing. But a speech about the need to pause, look at the data, admit “mistakes”, get things right, proceed carefully, promote diversity, and the like will do the trick!
It really won’t. Have you seen those gerrymandered pro-McKinley maps? Without the moves, redrawing boundaries will be a total nightmare.
Redrawing boundaries will be a nightmare no matter what. Most schools will be affected. They've said as much. Even the "most of McK goes to Reed" seems like they're playing down the fact that while "most" may go, that could mean 50% plus one. The Tuckahoe units there will move to McK, which starts the dominos.
Of course most schools will be affected either way. The difference is that if the moves happen, the effects will be due to Reed, ASFS, and Key getting new and largely walkable attendance zones, and then evening out remaining capacity and tightening up boundaries for other schools. But without the moves, a lot of kids in Virginia Square and Ballston will have to be bused to Ashlawn and McKinley, many kids in Rosslyn will get bused to Long Branch, and the School Board will have its hands full rebalancing capacity with little to no ability to address other factors like demographics.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 10:48
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Gut leads me to predict a no move majority vote. To be sure, that would be hugely embarrassing. But a speech about the need to pause, look at the data, admit “mistakes”, get things right, proceed carefully, promote diversity, and the like will do the trick!
It really won’t. Have you seen those gerrymandered pro-McKinley maps? Without the moves, redrawing boundaries will be a total nightmare.
Redrawing boundaries will be a nightmare no matter what. Most schools will be affected. They've said as much. Even the "most of McK goes to Reed" seems like they're playing down the fact that while "most" may go, that could mean 50% plus one. The Tuckahoe units there will move to McK, which starts the dominos.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 10:12
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
So the public meeting is...tomorrow? Wonder what turnout will be like. If it's pretty sparse maybe that'll signal that the majority of folks are just accepting inevitable.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 09:51
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reed will be four stories high (older grades at the top). I would be very surprised if the architects didn't check to make sure that was allowed.
I would NOT be surprised if APS did not check that. (Anyone else, yes, but APS, no.)
Yup. Just ask people at Fleet if APS checked ADA requirements.
Spoiler alert. They did not.
I looked at this more and these are not requirements, but Virginia guidelines for building schools. Guidelines encourage all younger grades and all disability classrooms to have egress to the outside. PP is correct at Fleet all preK classes are ground level with egress, and some (but not all Kindergartens). Special education classrooms are on the third floor. This poses issues with evacuation, etc.
I don't know what the plans for Reed are. Does anyone else know? This seems to me like a big safety issue APS is not paying attention to.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 08:57
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reed will be four stories high (older grades at the top). I would be very surprised if the architects didn't check to make sure that was allowed.
I would NOT be surprised if APS did not check that. (Anyone else, yes, but APS, no.)
Yup. Just ask people at Fleet if APS checked ADA requirements.
Spoiler alert. They did not.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 08:21
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Y’all so whiny. It’s not like they’re sending you to Carlin Springs (yet).
Anonymous
01/29/2020 07:34
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Next fight is dropping the McKinley name when it moves to Reed and sticking with Reed Elementary.
I hereby propose naming the repurposed Key The Neighborhood School.